Animals Upick [Game Over]

[jjh927]

I'm pretty sure I did give a readslist in pretty much this exact fashion where I then go talking to people about individual bits of it, though

And the voting more early on is just me being more involved in the early game of that one. I fell behind a little on this one.

[jjh927]

Found it. It even comes with the explanation I just gave

Spoiler: Booneytoonz upick day 1 readslist

I find I'm townreading a lot of people at the moment, which isn't totally abnormal for day 1 but just means no scum are standing out hugely atm. I might pick up and prod the people in my scumreads a little to see what happens but I can't make any promises rn.

Townier side is on the left:
Hard Town: Venus and Mars, Chkflip, The Fonz, Titus, Vecna, Krazy Katz, nomnomnom, Davesaz
Thought these were town earlier but haven't really thought much about them since: Sore feet, Conspire, Michael Scott
Lean town: BooneyToonzExpert, RCEnigma
Possible scum: Kakeguri Addicts, Chronos, George Bailey

[farside22]

Found it. It even comes with the explanation I just gave

Spoiler: Booneytoonz upick day 1 readslist

I find I'm townreading a lot of people at the moment, which isn't totally abnormal for day 1 but just means no scum are standing out hugely atm. I might pick up and prod the people in my scumreads a little to see what happens but I can't make any promises rn.

Townier side is on the left:
Hard Town: Venus and Mars, Chkflip, The Fonz, Titus, Vecna, Krazy Katz, nomnomnom, Davesaz
Thought these were town earlier but haven't really thought much about them since: Sore feet, Conspire, Michael Scott
Lean town: BooneyToonzExpert, RCEnigma
Possible scum: Kakeguri Addicts, Chronos, George Bailey

okay.
I'll just put a pin in this because i find your reads this game to be very unconventional but I don't know if that is a thing for you.
The words you explained why I'm a scum read look more like buzzword and a story that is being set up. But that's just an impression I'm getting between this game and the two I linked that are very parallel from each other.

[PenguinPower]

I HAVE POWER BACK!

What'd I miss?

[farside22]

I HAVE POWER BACK!

What'd I miss?

votato and bird are the biggest wagons.

[PenguinPower]

So just lynch fotahdo...feels like I missed nothing.

[jjh927]

It's all different priorities and shit

In this game there are people I scumread because I think their play is actually scummy, as opposed to simply being on the lower end of a readslist stacked with townreads of varying confidence. The wider variety at the lower end makes me more confident in the townreads too, although IDK whether or not that has any actual basis. I'm usually good at knowing the ballpark accuracy of my reads in a game and whether or not I should be giving ground to other players I respect. Look at Team Mafia 2020, for example, where I totally ignored my teammate Skitter (who was the only teammate of mine who was really paying any attention to my game) because I knew my reads were good.

[jjh927]

Actually, totally ignored is underselling me in that game. I actually gave ground on the one scumread I was wrong on

[farside22]

So just lynch fotahdo...feels like I missed nothing.

Well jjh has some interesting reads. He has only explain why he is scum reading me currently. He hasn't worked on why he is town reading bird.
Or scum reading you.

[jjh927]

I'm pretty sure I explained how this worked, right

[farside22]

I'm pretty sure I explained how this worked, right

majority of players have no issues explain each read they have with a reason in one post.
It seems your holding out for a fake reason, again this is based on how you gave reads out before without an issue.

[jjh927]

I always give readslists without reasoning because I like people asking me about them
-It's more conversational
-It let's me develop the reads better alongside people who are interested in those reads
-It helps me better place people that are asking me about my reads
-It gives me information about what reads different players find most interesting or jarring

So if you want me to explain why I hold specific reads, ask me about specific reads. One at a time, unless two slots really need to be placed together for some reason.

[PenguinPower]

If he's scum reading me he hasn't read the game very well.

[PenguinPower]

Probably 2-3 days

Why is your pfp a pink box?

Are you hiding your doomsday weapon behind it?

It's my given color. And, yes, my penguinray is hiding behind it.

[jjh927]

It seems your holding out for a fake reason,

Do you think this is a valid push

[farside22]

I always give readslists without reasoning because I like people asking me about them
-It's more conversational
-It let's me develop the reads better alongside people who are interested in those reads
-It helps me better place people that are asking me about my reads
-It gives me information about what reads different players find most interesting or jarring

So if you want me to explain why I hold specific reads, ask me about specific reads. One at a time, unless two slots really need to be placed together for some reason.

Why do they need to be one at a time?
I've never seen someone say "well I have reason's for my reads of those players but I'm only going to tell you about each, one at a time" What is the purpose of that?

With that said, how about you explain your Penguin scum read next.

[farside22]

It seems your holding out for a fake reason,

Do you think this is a valid push

Idk. I know I'm not thinking about my play style so it's up to how a player interrupt my actions.
I just think it's a weird way to look at it. It's not something I see you looking at when I look at your meta so that is why it reads fake.

[jjh927]

It's a recurring thing in my meta though?

Like, in that quote I posted at the top of this page from one of the two games you've used to evaluate my meta? (With the other game being a massive outlier)

[jjh927]

I might bow out of this conversation for a bit

But if you want to carry it on, wait for Mastina to notice it happened and talk to her about it

[farside22]

It's a recurring thing in my meta though?

Like, in that quote I posted at the top of this page from one of the two games you've used to evaluate my meta? (With the other game being a massive outlier)

I'll tell you, unless you can point to a game where you stated this was a typically thing you find scummy, I'm just going to keep saying your reason looks fake.
Because I looked to see if this is a scum tell in your book and I don't see it.

[HoldenGolden]

How does 2 confirm him as an optional mislynch any more over you being wrong?

Are you asking why I think his lynch would be a mislynch?

No, I understand why from your PoV you see his as a mislynch.

I'm confused about how reason two proves anything beyond it just confirming your PoV. I would understand If you said that you scumread people on his wagon, or as before, thought he was confirmable as that's a specific reason to why he is a mislynch. That's why I thought you said he was a mislynch; since it implies you have some view on the wagon dynamics etc.

With the way reason two is worded, I can use it on everybody. "I town read birds. People are scumreading him and hes unconfirmable. Hes an optimal mislynch". It doesnt really explain much about your PoV other than hes town.

[HoldenGolden]

Why the scum read on GH?

I don't. I think they're both pretty null. A scumread would require that I actually pay attention to their posts.

I feel like the unicorn is more likely town, but I don't actually have a read on either.

Welcome to the university of Holden. Your online zoom assignment today is to read mine and Votatos iso. This is worth 75% of your grade.

[HoldenGolden]

Townier side is the left side

Hard town: votato, HoldenGolden, Dr Easy Bake, Clover Ebi, April Ludgate, Creature
Town: mastina, chemist1422, Birds and the Boys, Conspire
Town but with mixed feelings: Calvin and Hobbes
Null: Bingle
Scum: PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Blatant Scum, farside22

Is your townread on votato based on more than the claim (IE his content?)

[HoldenGolden]

I don't really get the journey of Farside's iso.
Farside votes Votato, disbelieves Votato's claim, switches to Clover Ebi, switches to Dunnstral for his vote on Votato, says she nullreads Votato, then says Votato's reaction to their wagon was town, then votes Votato again (immediately after Dunnstral unvotes)

citing Holden's push which isn't really that much of a push and happens after HG unvotes

It feels kinda like votes are being made to predict and respond to the flow of the game rather than interact directly with it, with inferences generally made on the outcome of that flow rather than trying to place people on the individual level they occupy within it.

While I do understand what your saying about farside, i do want to point out that I did in fact vote votato on the same page as I explained the Calvin test.

[HoldenGolden]

Gonna be blunt: I am suffering from very very very VERY bad depression right now on the verge of site flaking bad levels of just...negative emotions. Some measures have managed to stave the effects of this a bit, but I need to take one more; one of the things fueling the potential for a siteflake is my desire to read the entirety of this game in spite of having absolutely zero motive to do so and the game getting longer with each and every day making the task more daunting every single time I don't try.

So in order to stay in the game, I have to kill it.

I'm way, way, way too tired to play the game tonight,

but

, tomorrow, I will be reading from this post.
If someone would be so kind as to catch me up on the 1200 posts in the game as you would if I were a replacement, I'll be in better straights tomorrow, so like.
Tomorrow, will be reading from post 1200 onward. Want me to know of something from before then? Then make sure I'm aware of it because I literally can't handle reading them all.

I don't know who you really are, but <3's towards your way. Depression is a bitch that deserves to be beaten with a stick and shot in the woods. I wish the best.