Guns & Roses IV [Game Over]

[votato]

i think if nosedad is scum, then probably chkflip isnt scum. im basically sold on lilith and maria. but eh, could be wrong.

[Vecna]

....you’ve only rolled scum once a year since you joined?

I dont play on here that often, and like I said....

I roll town pretty much exclusively

I think theres maybe another smaller game, maybe in there somewhere, but I dont remember it at all and these should give a proper image

[Vecna]

I was initially going to use this to confbias farside + stotts + lilith together, but now im gonna approach it from a different angle (while still explaining why I thought it linked Farside + lilith together

Do you want my new top secret solve for this game?

Continued in the quote. Yes im going there

Spoiler:

The scum team is Maria + Chkflip

And one out of (Farside + lilith + Stotts)

and I really dont want it to be stotts so my townreads on D1 at least were good

Chkflip was also extremely humble and weird and understanding of my vote there, even after I gave him a weak piece of shit explanation

calling it like "the most accurate someone has ever described changes in my play"

Going on how he was going to be all nice and cuddly and friendly this game and that that was the change I had spotted

And then he proceeds to play exactly as the way he has done so far. Which seems very towny, but not exactly friendly or non-aggresive if you will.

Remember how Maria scumread me based on my interaction with CHKflip? and my vote there? and subsequent unvote?

That was pretty unremarkable to pretty much everyone.

Im theorizing her attention was drawn to it because it was the first vote for her scumbuddy in the entire game

Wtf

I was going to say that wasn’t the first vote on chkflip.... but farside and I were both pushing chkflip hard during D1 and Maria also came out with scumreads on the two of us

what

Intermission/discussion: So I did one of my *lightbulb* derps here. The people that are now town to me all responded with

But lilith took it very serious, and even unvoted me. That was the only shit that gave her pause and made her interact wtih me and the "case"

Initially I was going to look at this from the scum perspective, that wants to exploit this, by encouraging it somewhat, while still being the voice of reason that gently just corrects me where needed. I thought this would fit quite well with FArside + lilith + Stotts, wanting me to push that logic for after I flip. Maybe if it was given enough attention, it would start living its own life and people would buy into it, right?

The other alternative.....is that I actually nailed it, and she felt the need to comment because her entire just was just cast in a net with accurate reason. I know, youre all probably doing the thing again.....but why would she bite on this little conspiracy theory? I think one of these two explenations is quite plausible. #2 probably more than #1

continuing

Spoiler:

goddamn this case is sure threading that fine line between mouth diarrhea and utter brilliance

Good luck still scumreading me after this piece of prose while still being able to look at yourself in the mirror

UNVOTE:

Interesting.

Editing out a lot of my posts because quoting is a lot of work. You can reread it in thread if u feel theyre relevant

Wait no

ABR and votato also voted chkflip

Like there was an entire wagon on chkflip before you voted him

That was a roller coaster

Well, to be fair, I do tend to come up with all them wild conspiracy theories where my brain finds patterns everywhere and then refuses to see any other truth

Interesting.

Interesting.

So lilith continues to take the case seriously. She's searching for answers, and finds some easy way to gently discredit it. She swoops the "main argument" that chkflip had already been voted earlier. There even was an entire wagon on chkflip. She still ignores the fact that Maria voted for most of those people, which included her and Farside. Shading 3 of the people attacking chkflip.

Then in come DC and Vokuto and redicule people calling my case interesting. Lilith realizes noone is actually taking it seriously, and completely stops engaging the idea.

She never talks to me again, never mentions me again, untill the big wagon on me starts. Here she just comes in, votes, and claims im scum and need to die.

Never any thoughts back to this earlier interaction. If she actually was town taking me serious there, why not at least go over the fact that that was some pretty creative shit scum dont pull off that easily? Why suddenly forgot you called me town for it earlier (even though you feel you removed some part of the main argument).

Farside also called this vote out as bussing, and it does look weak, as a hop on.

It might not mean shit, but it sure feels very iffy. Iffy in a, this was done to me, but the reasoning and progression dont feel genuine.

[Vecna]

Oh, i forgot this game DC

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[Albert B. Rampage]

so are you gonna vote lilith or what

[votato]

interesting.

[Vecna]

VOTE: lilith

[Vecna]

interesting.

shut up you stupid unicorn

[Vecna]

Im still wondering if theres the third option though, that its just lilith taking it actually serious, and scum being Maria + stotts + chkflip

[Vecna]

Have people actually had a proper discussion about the maria/Farside fight, so that were not ruling out a possible connection based on weak theatre?

[lilith2013]

Jesus I think that’s L-1, can you unvote or else scum are going to hammer me and I think that’s game over

[lilith2013]

I don’t actually see anyone giving reasoning for voting me. Can anyone currently on my wagon give me something I can engage with?

[lilith2013]

I still think bussing Vecna might have been a possibility, @ABR why don’t you think that’s possible?

Regardless of wagon alignment scum need to be on the wagon today, don’t they? (At least 1)

[lilith2013]

@Vecna when I’ve tried to explain my scumread on you your response is just “stop tunneling” and tbh I don’t feel like trying to explain myself further to a brick wall. I don’t think it’s tunneling when there are blatant discrepancies between your

words

and your

actions

and you still haven’t given me a good answer for why.

[DonCorleone]

Hey Lilith how would you feel about voting for eyestott?

[votato]

interesting.

shut up you stupid unicorn

jk, i agree. your logic makes sense to me.

[DonCorleone]

I’m still thinking it’s vecna tbh

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR are you not gonna explain why I'm scum and just tell people to vote me? Knowing how much that just annoys me? Like, okay you scumread me that's fine but if you're not gonna explain it...

Farside seems town for picking rose + trying to lynch you and Lilith before

Vecna seems town for being run up out of nowhere by all the potentially scum slots (wagon not town driven)

Chkflip is also probably town from his play, defending vecna

That leaves eyeslot, lillith, you, and votato.

Lilith's play is better than yours. Votato / eyeslot either one could be scum.

[DonCorleone]

Man, S_S is gonna be fucking bummed if Lilith flips scum

[Albert B. Rampage]

if vecna is scum, chkflip and lillith/votato/eyeslot/maria could be scum. It's really messy, scum are being very patient with a quicklynch bus, it seems less probable to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

lets hammer lilith imo

[Vecna]

I’m still thinking it’s vecna tbh

You actually went through my scumgames and still think so?

[lilith2013]

@Vecna once again, here’s a TLDR:

1) when your words indicated that ABR was not a strong townread, your actions indicated he was a strong townread (feels like buddying)
2) when your words indicated that ABR was your strongest townread, your actions indicated that you were still suspicious of him
3) when your words indicated that you thought ABR vs DC was TvT, your actions indicated that you wanted DC dead even though you thought he was town

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum probably all 3 picked gun, killed FB/something smat/farside.

Lilith is scum fore sure.

[lilith2013]

Hey Lilith how would you feel about voting for eyestott?

He wasn’t in my initial lynchpool tbh. I think I missed why everyone is scumreading him?