Animals Upick [Game Over]

[Bingle]

Targeting penguins seems like a waste of an action when he’s obvtown by play.

Votato role spec is a meh vote today.

If janitor goes through, likelihood he’s fakeclaiming is low. If janitor fails, likelihood he’s fakeclaiming is low. If April flips scum, likelihood he’s scum decreases drastically. If April flips town likelihood he’s scum is == rand. If multiple janitor kills go through, likelihood he’s town increases drastically.

Votato is a distraction today unless there’s a supremely good non role reason to vote him.

[votato]

VOTE: dunnstral. i thought my vote was already there.

[April Ludgate]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

Don’t you think he’s scum?

It’s not a waste if he’s scum.

This is literally the point of it all.

If a kill goes through, he is essentially confirmed scum. If not, then he’s town or scum and I was blocked or he was blocked. That’s great info.

People who are trying to against this are just plain scummy regardless of your read on Votato.

I’m actually dead null on Votato as of right now tbh. I just don’t care enough to think about the slot today when i can get more info out of it over night.

[HoldenGolden]

Holden, do you think that a scum PP would really make that sort of claim?

Can we get more votes on Dunnstral please? That iso is terrible.

- turducken

I think there are ways scum!PP can pull it off depending on how he handles it.

It's not an optimal strategy, but in having issues understanding his play from a town POV which is what lead me to doubt his claim.

[April Ludgate]

why are you so sure scum has a roleblocker?

It is a very common scum role.

Honestly, I’ve changed my read on this slot, BS is probably scum

[PenguinPower]

Votato is a distraction today unless there’s a supremely good non role reason to vote him.

Who should I vote then?

[Birds and the Boys]

April Ludgate, what is your opinion on Creature? PP, have you read Creature?

Same goes for you Tingle my Bajingle.

- turducken

[votato]

at this point, PP is not getting lynched today, yeah? no point talking about it. if he gets confirmed, we can go from there. if not, we can go from there. lets talk about what we are actually gonna do?

[PenguinPower]

April Ludgate, what is your opinion on Creature? PP, have you read Creature?

Same goes for you Tingle my Bajingle.

- turducken

I don't want to lynch Creature.

[HoldenGolden]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

How do you know scum have a roleblocker?

This is also something that gets figured out this way, i don’t get the hold up.

Votato isn’t even like the #1 choice, he looks like low hanging fruit in the first place. Impatience in people is scummy.

I already answer this. 7~ people can die at maximum. I refuse to believe that scum doesnt have some way to protect themselves like a rb or JK.

And the rb only provides info if you or the KP needed for the stunt to be pulled off is rbed. Votato being rbed is NAI and would be the target of an rb in that set up since scum gets a cleaned flipped.

[Birds and the Boys]

PP vote Dunnstral!

- turducken

[April Ludgate]

He was mocking my claim.

He's not Town confirmable.

Yes he is. We’ve already explained it.

There is a scenario where he is confirmable here, i frankly don’t give a fuck if there are ways to stop it, we can deal with that later.

The fact that there is a chance he’s confirmed means it’s the right play to make.

[PenguinPower]

April - Dunn or BS?

[April Ludgate]

Then vote fotahdo.

No, he claims to be confirmable

Yes. If he AND April can predict where mafia strikes.

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

This is a scum slip.

He actively points out he sees that I’d waste a Vig shot to confirm Votato.

Now he says we have to both guess the scum kill?

This is straight up incorrect and actually impli3s that the scum facti9nal kill has a built in janitor slot, because the general scum kill wouldn’t have any synergy with his role because it requires them to also be janitored.

VOTE: Blatant Scum

[April Ludgate]

April - Dunn or BS?

BS just slipped scum have a factional janitor kill

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: BS

fotahdo tomorrow.

[Birds and the Boys]

Then vote fotahdo.

No, he claims to be confirmable

Yes. If he AND April can predict where mafia strikes.

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

This is a scum slip.

He actively points out he sees that I’d waste a Vig shot to confirm Votato.

Now he says we have to both guess the scum kill?

This is straight up incorrect and actually impli3s that the scum facti9nal kill has a built in janitor slot, because the general scum kill wouldn’t have any synergy with his role because it requires them to also be janitored.

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Umm what?

- turducken

[Bingle]

I'm a human miller whatever that means.

Me too! And it actually makes perfect sense for my flavor.

Does your version not explain what a human miller is?

Been just lucky these two miller claims show up together

Almost said they would be all town, but then I remembered (at least) scum have safeclaims and definitely one human picker may have randed scum and given miller as a safeclaim to blend in with all other millers

It's pretty much setup spec, so I'll ignore this for now and check individual plays. Still, don't recommend automatically trusting the miller claims

Weighing in on this: FL was functionally a scum miller in the last Krazy Upick, iirc. Miller claims def not locktown.

I doubt humans are scum considering Krazy said we’d all get our picks and explicitly said I couldn’t pick people in the signups thread.

So you picked anthropomorphic people?

Nah. I’m three raccoons in a trench coat trying to sneak into an R rated movie. Krazy photoshopped a picture for me, but it only has 2 raccoons in it, which makes me pretty sad. Still, I now have a picture of two raccoons in a trench coat to use for future D&D character portraits.

[HoldenGolden]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

Don’t you think he’s scum?

It’s not a waste if he’s scum.

This is literally the point of it all.

If a kill goes through, he is essentially confirmed scum. If not, then he’s town or scum and I was blocked or he was blocked. That’s great info.

People who are trying to against this are just plain scummy regardless of your read on Votato.

I’m actually dead null on Votato as of right now tbh. I just don’t care enough to think about the slot today when i can get more info out of it over night.

Because it requires 3 Town PRs assuming that votato and you are town to pull off and has a high chance of giving scum a second kill that would be cleaned if they have a common role or if votato is scum?

Your plan has a chance. It's effectively putting all your chips on one number in roulette though. At that point we can just bet on there being an invest role to check him and free up whoever the town PRs are for use else where.

Pedit: what? Souldnt that instead implied I scumslipped since I brought up the vig comment?

[April Ludgate]

VOTE: BS

fotahdo tomorrow.

If he is not confirmed tomorrow, 100%

[HoldenGolden]

If anything you just slipped that your a vig lol.

[Bingle]

April Ludgate, what is your opinion on Creature? PP, have you read Creature?

Same goes for you Tingle my Bajingle.

- turducken

He’s in my towncore, so probably scum.

[Birds and the Boys]

Weighing in on this: FL was functionally a scum miller in the last Krazy Upick, iirc.

Uh... what? How can scum be a miller?

- turducken

April Ludgate, what is your opinion on Creature? PP, have you read Creature?

Same goes for you Tingle my Bajingle.

- turducken

He’s in my towncore, so probably scum.

Duly noted.

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I want to drink whatever April Ludgate is drinking

- turducken

[April Ludgate]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

Don’t you think he’s scum?

It’s not a waste if he’s scum.

This is literally the point of it all.

If a kill goes through, he is essentially confirmed scum. If not, then he’s town or scum and I was blocked or he was blocked. That’s great info.

People who are trying to against this are just plain scummy regardless of your read on Votato.

I’m actually dead null on Votato as of right now tbh. I just don’t care enough to think about the slot today when i can get more info out of it over night.

Because it requires 3 Town PRs assuming that votato and you are town to pull off and has a high chance of giving scum a second kill that would be cleaned if they have a common role or if votato is scum?

Your plan has a chance. It's effectively putting all your chips on one number in roulette though. At that point we can just bet on there being an invest role to check him and free up whoever the town PRs are for use else where.

Pedit: what? Souldnt that instead implied I scumslipped since I brought up the vig comment?

There’s literally no downside...idk why people are acting like there is. We can just lynch him tomorrow if he isn’t confirmed.

No, you didn’t say that Votato and I have to target the scum kill.

Why would the scum kill matter? He doesn’t protect a regular scum kill, he can only protect people that have been janitored.

BS slipped that the scum kill is a factional janitor.

[April Ludgate]

If anything you just slipped that your a vig lol.

I’ve essentially already claimed this, how else would i have the janitor ability.


I’m a JOAT. I have a 1 shot Janitor Vig.