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[votato]

sure. I only read from post 100 in your ISO, so theres more stuff before that, but mostly i have the same vibes. if you need i can go back further tomorrow. essentially, i see you asking a lot of questions and probing, but i dont see you pushing or pressing people. questioning people is pro-town, but also easy to do as scum. Between the questions and fluff, there arent a whole lot of posts where we see what HG is thinking. You dont present a lot of opinions or info collected from the questions.

the few opinions you have expressed are largely about methodology/theory. I like the pressure you put on PP both because of how you did it and where you put it. But it quickly passed into negative marginal returns. When i pointed that out though, you backed off, even when PP didnt. So overall, that gives you at least some town points.

but then you have the occasional post that i really dont like:

Spoiler:

Vote birds with me

He did ban me from the scum PT

UNVOTE: VOTE: Birds and boys

I still need responses from Votato before hes removed from my scum list

we are way past RVS here, and a wagon is forming. ill ignore the scumclaim both because youre talking to firebringer and because i scumclaim, including a couple times in this game iirc. this post seems so out of the blue. i didnt see any progression towards voting birds, and then there it is. maybe that comes if i read back further?

Okay, I'm back!
@DEB: "Failed Mason claim"? Did you not think it was obviously fake? What was the fail?

-Calvin

Do you still think we are scum?

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Could everyone give me their top 1-2 townreads?

-turducken

HoldenGolden

Farside is decently high still on my list. Most of the people who get close to the top posts something that pings me which is probably a sign that I need to loosen up from the gameplan I entered with.

Assuming how jj answers he can be promoted to townhood

here you deflect the question, not actually providing townreads. One townread that you dont commit to or provide reasons for, and then you say that you suspect everyone and cant come up with a townread.

[April Ludgate]

Votato wagon is for tomorrow.

Have some damn patience.

I am a simple donkey. I see a reason to pressure him -> I pressure him.

I'm extracting as much info as I can out of him, so that if he is town, I might find a reason not to lynch him tomorrow in the case I am wrong. If I am correct and he is scum, we have that much more info to go off of when he flips red.

Its not about patience; it's about time management. If Dunn was here, I would grill him too since my meta point no longer stands true enough to let him exist in the lurker pool.

If votato dies, I’m shooting you, be warned.

[April Ludgate]

Unless he flips scum, then I’ll be like, welp.

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Holden why did you want to hear from me specifically?

I've read through the thread and am syncing with Calvin now. It's about bed time for me so I'll leave it to Calvin to do most stuff but I should have some time tomorrow and Sunday to play more, I've been letting Calvin drive so far. My personal towncore at the moment is like {Penguin, April, Bingle, jjh, Clover}, with periphery townreads on farside/Dunn/Holden/Blatant. we both agree the B&B hydra feels like scum, Votato is scum. Creature's catchups are off, don't really like his reads and he comes across as hostile, could be scum - also lmao at the fact that he thought my one post could have ever come from Thor

-Hobbes

[Bingle]

:thorface:

[farside22]

*pats unicorn*
Its okay. I feel pretty sure your scum based on a lot of your wishy washy responses.

You are very lucky I'm not feeling doing my best not to tunnel you. But if that vote count turns to you, I will be there so fast.

Votato is this banter from Farside normal given your playing experience with them?

Its ongoing game stuff.

Votato wagon is for tomorrow.

Have some damn patience.

Why is it important to clear votato? You realize that the mod said roles may or may not be alignment inductive?

[April Ludgate]

It’s not important.its just the fact that we can, why don’t we try? I’m just always kind of annoyed when people are just impatient about things and act like it’s a now or nothing kind of deal and there’s no other options and they get held up with their reads on Day 1, so that definitely has a lot to do with it.

There’s just really no harm in waiting, but there’s giant benefit if we pull it off, and it’s the lack of even caring about that that really gets me.

[April Ludgate]

Worst case scenario, we lynch the next day. It’s not like he end games as scum ever, and you can even likely get more associations from herding him around, which I feel we have.

I just don’t see the point in not trying to confirm him if he’s town.

[farside22]

It’s not important.its just the fact that we can, why don’t we try? I’m just always kind of annoyed when people are just impatient about things and act like it’s a now or nothing kind of deal and there’s no other options and they get held up with their reads on Day 1, so that definitely has a lot to do with it.

There’s just really no harm in waiting, but there’s giant benefit if we pull it off, and it’s the lack of even caring about that that really gets me.

Worst case scenario, we lynch the next day. It’s not like he end games as scum ever, and you can even likely get more associations from herding him around, which I feel we have.

I just don’t see the point in not trying to confirm him if he’s town.

Just because he does said action does not = town.
So I'm going to ask again. How does him doing the action make him confirmed town? Do I really need to quote what the mod said about the roles?
Then I'm going to ask how do I trust you?
All your post is about protecting him and less about finding scum.

[Birds and the Boys]

I've read through the thread and am syncing with Calvin now. It's about bed time for me so I'll leave it to Calvin to do most stuff but I should have some time tomorrow and Sunday to play more, I've been letting Calvin drive so far. My personal towncore at the moment is like {Penguin, April, Bingle, jjh, Clover}, with periphery townreads on farside/Dunn/Holden/Blatant. we both agree the B&B hydra feels like scum, Votato is scum.

Can you explain these reads? Especially your Dunnstral town read and your scumread on us.

I asked Auro why he thought we were scum, but he just ignored that question.

- turducken

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Won't be here for a while.

Seems like I wasn't paying attention to the game - I felt you had no impactful activity and your heads weren't posting in the way I saw in Doubles, and that informed my read. Reading you ISO again shows me I've done a bad job at evaluating things without reading the game properly. Apologies.

-Calvin

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Votato read though is a bit more legitimate, for the original points. He didn't bother to understand his role. What's more likely - town not asking for clarification on their role, or scum not bothering to have asked for an explanation of their provided fakeclaim?

-Calvin

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Can you explain these reads? Especially your Dunnstral town read and your scumread on us.

I'm not gonna explain all of them

But I think Dunnstral's votato L-1 and then immediate subsequent unvote to say he's not feeling votato off of one post reads transparent and agenda-less - the possible scum motivation there would be to get a free claim, but I think it's generally more likely he was honestly re-evaluating. Why do you scum read him? Just because he's 'not involved' within the first RL week of a 60 page, 17+ player game?

With respect to your slot, I don't like either of your Dunnstral or Chemist pushes. They're not grounded in anything likely to be scum-indicative, they're just convenient vote parks on easy picking low activity slots. Your heads can't even seem to cohesively reason about whether Dunnstral's activity makes him scum or not

Wait why is dunny scum for not being that active? Dunny lurks all the time.

~fire

The only reason I'm not crazed over the dunn lynch is that I've seen a game where town!dunn is the same here.

Terribly out dated meta but still

Most recent Dunnstral meta shows he is way more involved in games as town. He actually is trying to solve stuff. Here... he is not.

- turducken

Have you two synced on this read? Did Fire change his mind from what he said in 752?

-Hobbes

[farside22]

Haha no kidding when does fire call out the low posting easy targets?

[Bingle]

Counteroffer, when does turkey not?

[Conspire]

I'm

Back

. What'd I miss from the last 20 pages?

~Cosmic

[PenguinPower]

Not a votecount - amirite?

[farside22]

Counteroffer, when does turkey not?

I don't recall fire really pushing players to begin with.

[PenguinPower]

You did miss a glitch in the matrix that caused an exact replication of a prior interaction between me and JingleBingle....that was cool.

[PenguinPower]

fotahdo is still scum but I don't think we're lynching him today for...reasons.

[PenguinPower]

There ya go. Caught you up.

[farside22]

fotahdo is still scum but I don't think we're lynching him today for...reasons.

here you go
VOTE: votato

There it will stay until one the following:
(1) April does more then defending votato
(2) hell freezes over.
(3) votato starts looking less scummy
(4) bird votes start to appear.

[Conspire]

Thanks for the

Catch Up

. I kinda want to see this glitch in the matrix though.

~Cosmic

[Conspire]

I'm not sure if I mentioned this before, but I found Forebronger's excessive confidence in Misty!scum to be pretty scummy. Where's he at with that read now?

~Cosmic

[Conspire]

votato, you strongly townread Birds, who you think you are town and are defending you, but don't townread April as highly, because you're afraid she may be buddying you. What's different about them?

~Cosmic