SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Quick]

This screams active lurking. Creature, you're reading the thread but you're not posting unless someone directs something at you?

Yes, I'm reading the thread on my mobile and it's quite hard to read coherently and type a coherent response

At the same time.

[mastina]

It wouldn’t surprise me if 1-2 scum were in the people who had to be replaced. Someone pointed out Momo confirmed and didn’t post, and Creature’s an easy read so if that’s scum it should be apparent soon enough.

For the record, at this stage, my Alch read is, notably, reversed, albeit hesitantly so.

I think that this is town-him now, but I have heavy caution, heavy doubts about that conclusion, but I am liking his content, think that yes this is probably him as town and I am no longer getting scum vibes from him, but I do admit I am still worried.

Plus, he's probably right in this assessment; there's almost assuredly going to be scum in the less-active players including the replacements. (Of course, not exclusively in that pool; there is also going to be a more-active scum, too, in all likelihood.) I'll have a better idea of where to look when caught up, and I think I can perfectly air this out with a readslist, but this is another notable difference in reads, an incredibly important one.

In fact, let's actually put that into an, as of post 875, readslist:
Nero Cain
Vecna
No łynch/Voted

Auro
Miss Lynch
Hoctac
(the gap here is incredibly small, almost put none at all)
farside22
Quick
Tchill13

Flavor Leaf
Alchemist21
davesaz
Elements
5G Tower

Aristophanes


Jake the Wolfie

momo/Creature

50 Judge Powers

Saudade


EspeciallyTheLies

Something like this, but with the caveat that I need to finish catching up, that this list needs refinement off of the newer content, that it can and probably will change when I've read everything, that this list is from content from 875 and earlier and that I need to perfect it down the road.

But, this is more or less, locktown of locktown, almost-locktown very strong town, strong town, town, nulltown (Ari), nullscum (Jake), lean scum, weak scum, somewhat-mid-strength-scum, somewhat-strong-scum.

[Tchill13]

ok.

so listen up. when i flip town, please look at the people who pushed me with poor cases and made up bullshit. LEARN FROM THIS.

VOTE: ETL

sheesh thats early for a self defeatist attitude.

[Tchill13]

what about Dragon's day

thats the fatherload.

[Quick]

Quick

You have more Town but I am further down the list.

There, that should do it.

[mastina]

Btw the gap between the Auro-Hoctac tier and the farside-Tchill tier is more or less where I think the divide between my reads lies--above that line, I don't think any of my townreads are wrong; below that line, I admit my reads

could

be wrong.
But, the gap between the two tiers is so small that the divide might just be even lower, with me not wrong on any read above Tchill.

From the FL read and below, I fully admit, I could be wrong on--I don't think I am, but the level of confidence there is lower enough that it's where scum

could

be, even though I don't think they

are

.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

ok.

so listen up. when i flip town, please look at the people who pushed me with poor cases and made up bullshit. LEARN FROM THIS.

VOTE: ETL

sheesh thats early for a self defeatist attitude.

It’s not defeatist. It’s helpful for town to see me flip. There are enough people talking about me that lynching me will yield high info. I’m not getting anything done being active so I can be useful dead.

[Tchill13]

I love the fact im practically dead middle on mastina's read list. The middle is where you want to be.

Vecna
Miss lynch
ETL

Auro
dave
farside
mastina

creature
Suadade

if youre not listed i dont feel youve made enough impact / i need to sort you.

[Tchill13]

mastina is lean town for reference.

bottom 2 are lean scum.

[Tchill13]

ok.

so listen up. when i flip town, please look at the people who pushed me with poor cases and made up bullshit. LEARN FROM THIS.

VOTE: ETL

sheesh thats early for a self defeatist attitude.

It’s not defeatist. It’s helpful for town to see me flip. There are enough people talking about me that lynching me will yield high info. I’m not getting anything done being active so I can be useful dead.

ETL is checking off all the boxes for annoyed, highly confident TOWN player btw.

[mastina]

Lulz, and Mastina wagons are always a great way to flush out the people with fake and shit reasoning
Sadly so far nothing -really- stood out. I think?

There were a couple of votes that stood out as being fake and shit reasoning.
Hint; they were the only two votes to

give

reasoning.

No, really.
Literally only two. (Well, FL I guess did give a reason too but he immediately unvoted. Of the, what, five, six players that voted? Only two gave a reason. Unless you count "I'm sheeping" as a reason which I do not. Or "I like wagons" as a reason which I do not.)

Can you guess which two players who voted me gave reasons for it?

[Hoctac]

I love the fact im practically dead middle on mastina's read list. The middle is where you want to be.

Vecna
Miss lynch
ETL

Auro
dave
farside
mastina

creature
Suadade

if youre not listed i dont feel youve made enough impact / i need to sort you.

Don't you dare put me as null

I'll rolecop you

[davesaz]

Ari's posting is sociable, but no real content. I too am working and my availability will be highly variable. Today has been an unusually good day for posting.

[Hoctac]

ok.

so listen up. when i flip town, please look at the people who pushed me with poor cases and made up bullshit. LEARN FROM THIS.

VOTE: ETL

sheesh thats early for a self defeatist attitude.

It’s not defeatist. It’s helpful for town to see me flip. There are enough people talking about me that lynching me will yield high info. I’m not getting anything done being active so I can be useful dead.

No offense, but I don't think you're the type of player who would be happy to die "for the good of the town" and to "help further town's wincon". You seem to fit a different archetype that's I'm not going to describe.

The scumread

strengthens

.

[Quick]

Okay, maybe there are 6 Scum instead of 3.

In any case, Nero. My buddy my pal. Why did you do that D1? Do you think you are getting NKed or do you think you are getting lynched?

[Tchill13]

ETL wagon is GROSS.

PEdit: Hocatc is GROSS. jk lol.

but seriously i disagee with the ETL pushes.

[Nero Cain]

In any case, Nero. My buddy my pal. Why did you do that D1? Do you think you are getting NKed or do you think you are getting lynched?

why did I do what?

[Quick]

In any case, Nero. My buddy my pal. Why did you do that D1? Do you think you are getting NKed or do you think you are getting lynched?

why did I do what?

Iunno. Nothing really just claimed the most powerful PR in the game, maybe?

[Nero Cain]

ok? so......I don't even know what u are doing.

[mastina]

I liked most of the Mastina stuff so far, but the big overexplainy post on her townreading me and Auro felt like something a scum player could recycle every game and apply to literally any player with a few bits and pieces changed.

I mean, you're not

wrong

, but that doesn't make it any less true or any less valid as analysis. It so happens that, yes, is easily recyclable and thus easy to use as scum just as it can be used when town, but sometimes, even if it's a bit of a cliched reasoning, it's still the most apt reasoning to use.

ETL's progression really feels like its gone from good, to slightly less good, to doing a bunch of actions that can be construed as really badly, to then voting like 4 people in a row for reasons I thought made all of those slots obvtown. Extreme situation of thought dissonance

Not the exact words/reasoning I would use but I would convey similar. ETL's posting is very shallow and lacks depth, lacks followthrough, to it. She posts things which in the moment look plausibly good as passable opinions, but which when looked at in hindsight, don't actually have any true backing to them.

Ask mastina.

I think ETL is playing a good scumgame as shown by the players townreading her. If ETL is town, then this is not her finest moment tho. The only good a town-ETL would've done this game is having those aforementioned townreads on her. Because like I've said--ETL's content this game has looked town without actually doing anything town.

If she is scum, this is good play; if she is town, then there's no real good play to be seen in that approach.

So, really, depends on your alignment here. If you're scum, your play here is excellent as you're doing exactly what you should be doing as scum especially in a game of this nature. If you're town, your play is objectively not good with the one good spot being the ability to have garnered some townreads on your slot, the same thing which is better for scum here than town.

[Quick]

ok? so......I don't even know what u are doing.

Let's keep it that way.

[Nero Cain]

I don't think you know what you are doing either.

[davesaz]

ETL's content this game has looked town without actually doing anything town.

Do you have a proactive > reactive bias in how your read people in general?

[Quick]

I don't think you know what you are doing either.

Okay, maybe that is because you spell out everything you do in big bold letters across the sky and I don't, ... maybe.

Or there is a level of my intellect that you don't understand yet.

Or I really am a moron and A50 voted me for no reason.

Take your pick.

[50 Judge Powers]

thats not the same thing? A50 s saying that they all can recruit as in like there will be 3 recruits tonight. But the one in the op makes it sound like there will be 1 recruit a night b/c its a factional ability not linked to a role.

What I mean is there is no specific "Cult Leader". In the most common CULT games the Cult Leader is the only one who can recruit, and if you lynch/kill that you stop the cult from growing. In this game you can only stop the infection from spreading by killing/lynching all 3 Mafia.