Open 778: Nightless Vanilla [Game Over!]

[Elements]

Looker has no reason to townread me in this game because we were recently scum together and I feel like he should be able to identify the differences between this game and that game where we were scum together and I defended him even though he was under a lot of pressure.

This looks contradictory:
You were scum with looker => Looker knows your scum play
Looker has no reason to townread me => You are playing how you play scum
He should be able to see the differences => You are not paying how you play scum

[humaneatingmonkey]

It was an obvious pressure wagon and you're not dumb enough to quickhammer ABR there when there hasn't really been AI-indicative material to sort ABR from.

Unless you had a reason to strongly believe ABR was scum there?

[northsidegal]

Votecount 3.3

Target	Wagon
Alisae (4)	humaneatingmonkey (1559), votato (1560), Elements (1582), NorwegianboyEE (1583)
votato (1)	Alisae (1561)
Looker (1)	Firebringer (1553)
Not Voting (4)	Deimos27, Green Crayons, Isis, Looker

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-15 23:33:59).

[Alisae]

Monkey is town because of the wagon on me. When monkey was sring me, no one joined him by voting me and he was left on his lonesome. Then towards the end of the day I started being accusative and throwing stuff around then more people started voting me and wanting my lynch, at that point monkey stopped wanting my lynch. My wagon was the counter wagon to cycle. Scum!monkey could've easily voted me instead and had a mislynch day one but didn't. Monkey is town.

So, I am probably going to put out a case explaining my solve here and what I think happened in this game.
I think he wanted to bus Cycle Men and was the person who wanted to bus Cycle Men and just makes sense.
Its going to take some time to write, but I think Norwee and Monkey are buddies here and if Monkey and Norwee are buddies here, with how Cycle Men played and what I was doing in general, the better strategy here is to keep bussing.

Because what flip discredits me more and makes me more lynchable
Cycle Men scumflip, or your townflip?

[Alisae]

Looker has no reason to townread me in this game because we were recently scum together and I feel like he should be able to identify the differences between this game and that game where we were scum together and I defended him even though he was under a lot of pressure.

This looks contradictory:
You were scum with looker => Looker knows your scum play
Looker has no reason to townread me => You are playing how you play scum
He should be able to see the differences => You are not paying how you play scum

Look its late at night and I’m tired can you try to cut me some slack
What I am trying to get across is that Looker knows how I play as scum and should be able to identify the difference between that game and this game.

[Alisae]

It was an obvious pressure wagon and you're not dumb enough to quickhammer ABR there when there hasn't really been AI-indicative material to sort ABR from.

Unless you had a reason to strongly believe ABR was scum there?

Why is this scum indicative?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Do you have a strong reason to believe ABR was scum before you hammered D2?

[Alisae]

Strong?
No

[Alisae]

A reason?
Yeah I have one

But its not a strong one

[humaneatingmonkey]

So why would town hammer there when he hasn't sorted ABR yet and the deadline was nowhere near the finish line AND you have other scumreads?

[humaneatingmonkey]

If it's for information, i might consider you town here.

[Alisae]

Because we just lynched scum and we can mislynch sparingly, meaning we have more room to be wrong as a reward for lynching scum on D1

[humaneatingmonkey]

hahaha lmao alisae

[Alisae]

like I actually townread ABR because I thought his reads were townie
hammered him anyways

[humaneatingmonkey]

INTENTIONAL MISLYNCHING is your defense? My girlfriend just asked me why I was laughing out loud in front of the computer, thinking I was looking at a silly meme. I didn't know how to explain that you're the silly meme.

[Alisae]

Yeah
it doesn't matter how wrong you are as long as you get to the right answer.

Whats your issue with it

[humaneatingmonkey]

Nah I'm done here.

[Alisae]

no you're not
I want you to actually explain why that is scummy

[Alisae]

if you understand the game more then I do, then that should be easy for you, right?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Do you have a strong reason to believe ABR was scum before you hammered D2?

Strong?
No

A reason?
Yeah I have one

But its not a strong one

like I actually townread ABR because I thought his reads were townie
hammered him anyways

[Alisae]

if you understand the game more then I do, then that should be easy for you, right?

[humaneatingmonkey]

lynching someone you think is townie when you have other lynchable scumreads is not natural town behavior, bro. surely you would use that allowance for a mislynch on people you think is scum in case you're wrong, right? that's the town mindset because you never know if you'll be right. i see no way town!you would think it's okay to lynch town at around less than 24 hours after deadline without squeezing more out of your scumreads.

instead scum!you would take that opportunity to eliminate ABR because you're widely scumread anyway, and you're willing to take out ABR on your way out.

self-vote, bro.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because what flip discredits me more and makes me more lynchable
Cycle Men scumflip, or your townflip?

So you are saying me and Monkey had magical knowledge that you would defend Cycle men the way you did and 'planned' it all out the way you're imagining it? Lmao get outta here.

[humaneatingmonkey]

[northsidegal]

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