profii mostly did nothing in game up until this post:
The drama of "here's a read" like his vote is expected to be surprising/impactful and without any explanation for the vote itself.
In post 212, profii wrote:Zantetsu I really thought you were town in that last game. I hope you dont super me here.
Though I guess with 2 townies pushing me hard it made your job easier
Reads like AtE trying to position himself as town who really is worried about being lynched.
In post 216, profii wrote: In post 213, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 212, profii wrote:Zantetsu I really thought you were town in that last game. I hope you dont super me here.
Why are you bringing this up? Are you feeling town on Zantetsu, but worried they might be scum?
Just saying it tbh
I dont worry about much when I play mafia, do you? Seems like a strange verb to use
When called on it, he tries to come on some kind of counter attack to deflect the suspicion he thinks Norwee has. The second sentence was totally unnecessary, reads like a forced argument, like he feels he has to have a comeback. Considering scum psychology here - I've been scum many times - you often feel like if you don't respond to a statement of suspicion then it will balloon into something bigger. You are worried you have a blind spot - did they just see right through me? You feel desperate to have a response. So you make a lame counter argument like nitpicking on verbs.
In post 371, profii wrote:No one has given any serious thought to why wed get 2 wagons to l-1
I'm sad about that
Positioning himself as being thoughtful about the wagons, as if he has some deep thoughts on why the wagons would go to L-1 quickly. Didn't ask any specific player their thoughts, even though that would be a more effective way (in my opinion) of sorting players, it's all generalized questions to 'everyone'. Also note how strange it is for him to have put popop at L-1 and now be acting like there is some deep reason that we all need to be thinking about for why two wagons went to L-1 (although I always doubt myself when I make arguments like this, because surely profii would realize how odd it would be for him to question wagons going to L-1 when he himself put one of them there?)
In post 628, profii wrote: In post 447, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I would consider a spontaneous hammer on Peter Pan to be a scum reveal.
However, if everyone had an equal chance to hammer them, who wouldn't be scumclaiming because of it?
Intent to hammer. Please claim
I dont like your concern about voting in sentence 1 there and if we dont hammer someone we will never move on
And yet, he never hammered, despite having ample time to do so. His claim later in the game was that he unvoted "to make people think the Jake wagon was dying." This implies that he was town reading Jake to such a degree that he would now go back on a hammer being needed or else "we will never move on".
In post 675, profii wrote: In post 671, Zantetsu wrote:Just a reminder profii you never answered this:
In post 403, Zantetsu wrote: In post 371, profii wrote:No one has given any serious thought to why wed get 2 wagons to l-1
I'm sad about that
Do you think the wagon velocities in this game says something predominantly about town, predominantly about scum, or equally about both?
in the last few games I've played the scum day 1 lynches have had hella low velocity
So to see 3 rapid wagons means we probably arent hitting scum
Back to wagon velocity analysis. And here he explicitly states that none of them are likely to be scum. If he's scum he knows at this point that the Jake wagon is on town, so he's starting a narrative to make himself be towny by leaving the Jake wagon out of 'towny' concern that Jake was going to flip town.
Note that Jake already had been intent-to-hammer'd by two other players. I personally was about 96% convinced that Jake was going to be lynched at this point. It just seemed inevitable given the evidence against him, which I will continue to contend was very strong despite the fact that he did flip town. This is a good place to back off the wagon if you want to look like a cautious town player while still having convidence that a mislynch would go through.
I didn't get this at all really. I didn't think he seemed apathetic, more just low effort, and it happened well before I wrote my post. It goes pretty much back to the very beginning of the game. Not sure this is AI, but maybe just trying to justify his play style as if it's my fault?
In post 708, profii wrote: In post 703, Churros wrote:"Intent to hammer Jakez, claim"
"Those wagons are so whacky, probably not hitting scum"
Fair one
Just bored of the day. Dont see people going back to popopo, that's the best lynch here
Why is popop the best lynch if he was saying earlier that none of the L-1 wagons were likely to be scum?
In post 720, profii wrote:I read the thing from jake about "why do I claim here" as a townie not being coached to lure a protective
I guess if the guy hates being scum that explains the absence and the self vote ahead of his inevitable demise
I thought I was the most apathetic, damn.
Directly self-contradicts here. First says he reads Jake as town for saying "why do I claim here". Next sentence he says Jake hates being scum. Finishes with some more AtE baloney.
In post 1004, profii wrote:
nah man, I unvoted popopo to make people think the Jake wagon was dying.
OK so he thinks popop was the best wagon, but he unvoted popop just to make people think the Jake wagon was dying? Why did he want people to think the Jake wagon was dying if a hammer needed to happen to progress the game? Not to mention I still don't understand why he would change his scum read of Jake to town for no reason when all evidence was pointing to Jake scum.
In post 1006, profii wrote:popopopopopopo(6) ~ Luna Fox(24), Firebringer(31), Nero Cain(23), NorwegianboyEE(21), Peter Pan(8), profii(15)
Peter Pan(6) ~ Luna Fox(30), Firebringer(47), Zantetsu(45), popopopopopopo(31), Alchemist21(23), Elements(7)
Jake the Wolfie(6) ~ Luna Fox(49), Firebringer(89), Zantetsu(64), popopopopopopo(44), Churros(135), Jake the Wolfie(39)
Day 2 - popopopopopopo(3) ~ NorwegianboyEE(19), Peter Pan(18), Nero Cain(6)
hmmm.
I'll have a think
This is the second time he's posted this votes list. Just note that he changed the order of the votes, this has already confused at least one player (I myself on reading it the first time he posted it had to go back and re-read all the votes because I didn't remember the ordering being like that). I guess he thinks he is making a point somehow. Again I conjecture that this is just an attempt to appear to be trying to solve by focusing on D1 wagons.
But what is the result of his 'think'?
No posts, a prod, and then:
He moves from one D1 wagon vote to the other D1 wagon vote. This after saying earlier that he thought that the velocities of the D1 wagon indicated that none of them were on scum. This after making posts suggesting he was analyzing the wagons - twice. Which implies to me that he would have something to ask players on those wagons, or maybe even vote one of them. Or have any thought process at all about the wagons that leads somewhere other than just voting the other D2 wagon.
Let's go back a bit to his other similar post:
In post 650, profii wrote:popopopopopopo(6) ~ Luna Fox(24), Firebringer(31), Nero Cain(23), NorwegianboyEE(21), Peter Pan(8), profii(15)
Peter Pan(6) ~ Luna Fox(30), Firebringer(47), Zantetsu(45), popopopopopopo(31), Alchemist21(23), Elements(7)
Jake the Wolfie(6) ~ Luna Fox(49), Firebringer(89), Zantetsu(64), popopopopopopo(44), Churros(135), Jake the Wolfie(39)
Some interesting stuff in there.
With popopo on both the other wagons I'm wondering if that suggests scum #2 is trying to make sure that initial wagon doesn't resurface. Going to apply some scrutiny to {Luna/Fire/Zant} - obviously luna and fire will point out they were on the popopo wagon, but if they have some paltry reason for getting off, then that could be an indication of scum imo.
First I never understood why he said "scum #2", that's just weird. There should be a scum #2 and scum #3, why would only scum #2 be doing something? Just strange.
Says he is going to apply scrutiny to Luna/Fire/Zant. Kind of implies that Luna and Fire could be a scum because of how he thinks they will respond to a line of questioning that he doesn't even actually embark on?
I never saw him apply any scrutiny to any of these players, myself included.
Why were we three singled out? Probably because when he sorted the votes into that list we three were on both the Peter and Jake wagons I guess?
But he had no suspicion of Elements, who was the one who put Peter at L-1. Never even mentioned Elements.