Guns & Roses IV [Game Over]

[Albert B. Rampage]

eyestott vs maria wagons: if eyestott is scum and maria is the town counterwagon, then that implicates vecna I think

VOTE: Maria

Dead thread!!!! Make some posts!!!! I want to be entertained later!!!

[votato]

someone hammer pls. And scum, don't forget to shoot me. Leave abr alive for tomorrow.

[Albert B. Rampage]

eyestott vs maria wagons: if eyestott is scum and maria is the town counterwagon, then that implicates vecna I think

Correct quote

[votato]

You wanna do Maria today?

[Albert B. Rampage]

If Don and Ico are good with it, I'm good with it. If not I will talk to them more, we have plenty of time.

[DonCorleone]

are you aware that what you're doing looks identical to openwolfing votato

[DonCorleone]

why doesn't votato vote Maria here?

[DonCorleone]

from his pov they're both confscum right? so why doesn't he just go with the person who there's finally a conftown voting?

[Albert B. Rampage]

but in my small world there's a wagon on a slot, with multiple IC's not on it. So confirmed scum on it. And there *is* a possibility we can lynch a scum with all town on the wagon.

That's what the Vecna wagon was. Observe.

Day 2

VOTE: Vecna

For now, until I go back and reread.

VOTE: eyestott

VOTE: vecna

VOTE: vecna

Rereading interactions with ABR and the inconsistency in tone vs read still bothers me

I'm not going to re-read the whole game because I don't hate myself that much, but IIRC Vecna was a bad vote yesterday and that shit didn't magically change overnight.

I'm gonna go digging.

You played a brilliant game.

I will vote you during the day like a man.

VOTE: Lilith

I really thought by the start of day 2 that the scum team was lilith/venca/abr.I thought Abr was lying about being a gun holder because he continued to push at DC with no CC in site and he sounded really sure that DC was lying despite the lack of CC. Plus all the ad hom stuff really looks scummy.With no CC I'm throwing that out the window. I really think venca scum. Still have thought with lilith since they hardly interacted and the unvote looks weird from lilith but I maybe just in tunnel mode.If venca is scum I'm taking Maria off the table as scum and I can not for the life of me see votato as scum.So it is really just POE at this time.VOTE: Venca

VoteCount 2.3

Vecna [3] - farside22, MariaR, lilith2013
votato [1] - chkflip
lilith2013 [1] - votato

Not Voting [5]

- Iconeum, Vecna, eyestott, Albert B. Rampage, DonCorleone

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to be chosen.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-05-12 15:35:31)

Wait, I'm not already voting Vecna?
Oops
VOTE: Vecna

What’s your solve vecna?

I honestly think any solve is gonna involve MAX 1 in (Eyestott Votato)

Maybe im just stubborn because ive been townreading those two since the beginning and I want to be right.

I think Chk is only scum if Maria is scum, but I have no real strong reasons for that besides the way maria latched onto me in her catchup for voting and unvoting chkflip. I still think that mightve drawn her attention for partner reasons, and chkflip has been completely utterly unphased by anything ive thrown in his direction regarding this.

a bit behind. this post really struck me, because I also think steyeoat and votato are town. Yet we are two people who were almost universally scumread early in the day yesterday. And Vecna is 100% scum here. Don't let him escape by using dumb arguments and AtE. Scum!vecna latched on to the two most likely mislynches early in the day. Just like he latched onto the actual mislynch late in the day. He conveniently townread all three of us, hoping to get towncred post-flip. To me this clears myself and ayeschott. I'll put myself out there and say that if vecna flips town ico should vig me. If i flip town, spare tneysott

Also, DC, in what universe could (me, eye, chk) be the scum? I've hard defended eye and been pushing chkflip hard the whole game. Super obviously. They're the two players (along with farside) i have the most associations with. Do you really think we would make it that obvious?

I was thinking the same thing, votato

[Albert B. Rampage]

why doesn't votato vote Maria here?

from his pov they're both confscum right? so why doesn't he just go with the person who there's finally a conftown voting?

Ignore their activities today like you said they would do, they will vote whoever me ico and you agree on lynching.

[Albert B. Rampage]

5 votes on Vecna put him at L-1 early day 2. Vecna was essential to the town. He townread chk along with me, and townread/hard-defended votato against everyone else. I stopped his lynch but scum still needed him gone to win.

[Albert B. Rampage]

are you aware that what you're doing looks identical to openwolfing votato

What is open wolf?

[votato]

abr was just on Lilith. I'm obviously fine with either lynch. There's an extra vote on my wagon still though.

[DonCorleone]

saying things that are very openly scummy and/or from the pov of a scum that's won and is going through the formalities

[Albert B. Rampage]

saying things that are very openly scummy and/or from the pov of a scum that's won and is going through the formalities

what does it mean that I am open wolfing votato? I still don't get it.

[DonCorleone]

Ignore their activities today like you said they would do

yeah, this is fair though

[DonCorleone]

no, no, I'm saying that what votato is saying is very similar to openwolfing

[DonCorleone]

someone hammer pls. And scum, don't forget to shoot me. Leave abr alive for tomorrow.

like this whole line just sounds scummy as fuck

[DonCorleone]

it's so unnecessary and performative

[votato]

Dc im open towning. Ive convinced abr/abr convinced himself. The outcome is certain.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Just like Shakira's hips, the votes don't lie.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Votato hasn't done one thing to benefit either alignment all game.

I think he's just a lost townie.

[votato]

i mean i did solve the game yesterday

[Albert B. Rampage]

votato didn't mislynch knightmare or help the maria counterwagon, he didn't help run up vecna, he didn't help run up eyestot but he hammered him. Say what you want about his behavior or how he sounds, he's not tipped the game in scum's favor when he could have. If he were scum, eyestot and lilith/maria should have coordinated daychat for him to hammer vecna before I could stop it.

[votato]

i was on the vecna wagon and couldn't have hammered