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[Klick]

Waiting on Pete too, a bit nervous about of the amount of town power at this point however.

Why were you worried at this point? Lots of 1-shot roles, including yours, didn't seem particularly unbalanced when it was just the JK, the two 1-shot Voyeurs, Pete's soft and your role.

[Klick]

You are viewing it simply as “only kill people that explicitly suspect you” and in reality it’s not that simple

From this lens, votato looks rather bad actually

[Klick]

Paragon, where did you go last night?

Oh, interesting. I went nowhere.

Hey, eyestott! I reckon I'll repay the favour in this game if you catch my drift.

In 2125 eyestott did you a solid with a clear. I read this as saying that you should have two clears. We're in a position where we need them. So I'm either sheeping you today or voting you.

Lul, good job spotting that.

My intention with that entirely was to soft an investigative PR with that post, hope scum!eyestott or other scum catch on, and then nightkill me (a meh slot). So much for that though.

I actually rather liked this
It was a really heavy soft in context, fitting for trying to get NK'd

[Klick]

Actually, it's pretty obvious you're tracker at this point, Pete. Scum will know for a fact if they're not oblivious, so out with your claim. I have more thoughts to give after you claim.

You softed a PR that you didn't think anyone would pick up on. When called on it, you thought I might be running a gambit to get you to claim. Now you want me to claim.

I catch your drift

Did you miss this? I think you did and that you may be scum.

VOTE: Paragon

The Paragon fake soft situation was starting to get me to townread Pete, but him pointing out beforehand that he saw Paragon's soft sort of takes that away.

[Klick]

Which sounds more plausiible? Softing a PR that one person, who may or may not be scum, would pick up on to draw a night kill or setting up a pocket on a townie?

The first, by miles...
Like the play actually makes a lot of sense? And it fits with how Paragon's personality seems

[Klick]

i dont see any upside for town!paragon to run this gambit. I also don't see any motivation for scum!paragon to do it.

Oh, I just had a look at the VCs and nightkills, and votato was both Drew-Sta and Atarashi's biggest scumread for most of the game.

A LOT points towards votato being scum:

VOTE: votato

Unless Paragon and votato were buddies, I don't see Paragon!scum voting votato!Town right after votato expresses a null take on Paragon's play. Paragon!scum just doesn't have the flexibility at this point in the Day to be that careless about potentially getting on votato's bad side.

I'm not going to be lynching Paragon today, as the narrative seems to be pushing that way recently.

[Klick]

i dont see any upside for town!paragon to run this gambit.

Getting nightkilled as a VT and kinda overall scumleaned slot?

You guys are silly.

Oh, I just had a look at the VCs and nightkills, and votato was both Drew-Sta and Atarashi's biggest scumread for most of the game.

A LOT points towards votato being scum:

VOTE: votato

Also these posts were like an hour apart, implying he was actually putting effort into reading through the game and decided to point this out.
I don't think that fits great with a Paragon!scum mindset.

[Klick]

Not worried about fwesnid right now. [paragon,blurry,drippinggoofball]

This is a bad list.
It's the three emptiest slots (besides I guess eyestott) and they're probably all town.

[Klick]

{Pete, votato, Dolly, eyestott} is where my PoE seems to be leading me so far.

[Klick]

Still catching up. I will not be voting paragon.
Though, to be honest para, I misinterpreted your softie, so even if I were scum, I wouldn’t have picked up on it and NKed you for it.

Though if I were scum, I definitely would’ve NKed you anyway.

Good stuff

[Klick]

@NotSci

Can you please vote someone else?

I would want to vote blurry first but I reckon we should wait on him to return or be replaced.

DGB
Fwes
Vot
are the other remaining from the VCA but with the speed wagon yesterday I don't feel it's reliable.

I still really don't like the frame of limiting your perspective just based on who was on one of the two quicklynches, and at this point it looks like Dolly could be doing it in lieu of actually being able to scumhunt.

[Klick]

@DGB: What made you choose to target the Blurry slot N1 with your Voyeur shot?

Not much, really. If I hadn't been so sure I'd be nightkilled N1, I would have held on to the Voyeur for another night when I could have made a more considered choice.

Why would you be worried about this? You were far from locktown in anyone's eyes D1. Just because of your reputation? Does anyone in this game know you?

[Klick]

- I think the slot I came into reads as pretty obvious newbtown who couldn't face coming into D3 after YOLOing into a second quicklynch on town.

That is scummy AF

Locking a town read on oneself based on speculation of what one's predecessor was thinking.

It's funny though.

This tell deserves its own name.

Why is it scummy? What makes scum more likely to do it than town?
I think anyone with a decent amount of recent experience genuinely trying to get a read on Blurry would at least be seeing some strong reasons to think she was newbtown.

[Klick]

im an x-shot roleblocker. no comment on blocks remaining. if needed i can reveal x.

Roleblocker stands out in this setup. It's primary purpose seems to be to block the myriad of mostly town roles. Combine that with a full JK and I think votato could just be scum.

[Klick]

Didn't crumb though you could consider 502 a soft.

Watcher
Night 1 I watched atarashi, no visits.
Night 2 I watched notsci, no result.
(Picked townreads that were also shared, obviously)

I supported mass claim because it was likely I die tonight with how this game's going, and I had assumed pete was tracker who would get roleblocked.

And if we mishang and I did catch a scum I question if I would be believed coming out with a cc in lylo with no other info.

Holy shit yeah, with this amount of investigative power scum almost certainly have a Ninja.

[Klick]

I’m a 1-shot watcher. I didn’t use it because I had no idea who the mafia would target with their night kill.
And hey, I’m 1-shot bulletproof too.
I didn’t really “crumb” this game, even though I’ve done so in the other games I’ve been in that are now finished
Other than me saying that the mod didn’t respond to my pms at the start of the game. I was asking him if
A) I can use my watcher ability to target myself
B) I’ll be informed if I lose my bulletproof ability
Dolly and Fwesnid should be able to confirm the answers to each of these are no.

This is a weiiiiird claim.

[Klick]

Like what even is the role name? 1-shot Bulletproof 1-shot Watcher?

[notscience]

It’s day talk klick I’m sure scum talked about their fake claims and it doesn’t make sense for votaro to claim roleblocker with a flipped jk

[notscience]

He’s the only claim other than myself that was kinda complex which I found interesting

[Klick]

I feel like that argument trails into WIFOM really easily. I'm not convinced.

[notscience]

Waiting on Pete too, a bit nervous about of the amount of town power at this point however.

Why were you worried at this point? Lots of 1-shot roles, including yours, didn't seem particularly unbalanced when it was just the JK, the two 1-shot Voyeurs, Peter's soft and your role.

Most games that I remember had like 3/4 town prs

Yes there were watered down roles but

Flipped jk
I can confirm someone
Two watcher type roles
What I thought was a tracker guilty

Just seemed too heavy for what I remembered

[Klick]

I'm caught up now. Here's where I seem to be at:

TOWN
Paragon
DGB
notscience
Fwesnid

LEFT
Pete
Dolly
eyestott
votato

I'm not great at the setup spec game, but I'm inclined to believe the Watcher needs to be town for this to be balanced, especially considering my townread on Paragon.

I'd happily lynch any of the bottom four I think. This claim looks the worst to me at the moment:
VOTE: eyestott

[Fwesnid]

UNVOTE: paragon
I am able to understand paragontown better and I don't think hanging him today makes sense.
I'm tempted to swing over to eyestott.
Eyes has been sketchy most of the game and I agree their claim doesn't fit.

[Klick]

Actually
UNVOTE:
VOTE: votato

It probably makes sense to leave eyestott alive for today and direct his action (it's probably best for him to watch Fwesnid tonight).

[votato]

Can you explain why you think roleblocker is fake? Most town prs are 1-shot. Being 1- shot myself it's unlikely to hit town. Scum must have quite a lot of power, and it's fairly likely that i could hit them