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[farside22]

Ive seen scum do it more then town to create confusion and a bit to add cover for their own inability to discuss things in the game or make cases.

[Chemist1422]

I have april as scum because she keeps changing her claim whenever it gets doubted

I had birds as scum for symmetry pretty much, they're about null but I didn't want to have to make an extra tier for them

[Alyssa The Lamb]

rawr

[HoldenGolden]

There is a really nice and easy way of placing me where you look at my votes in context and you see what I was doing there, and what I was thinking. Usually people eventually start to do that after playing with me in a game for a bit, rather than scumreading me for not explicitly stating everything I'm doing or thinking. It's all there. You can ask me what I was thinking at previous points in time and I'll probably be able to tell you, too. But it looks like you're not evem reading the few explanations that ARE there for my votes and behaviour, because you think I switched to scumreading Mastina for no reason. I never scumread Mastina, but I gave reasons for the vote which I couldn't uphold for very long at all.

I'm reading your ISO and I can piece together reasons. But I still want a case/write up/etc. So that I can actually figure you out since you have had multiple read and vote progressions this day phase. You look like you are frailing from the suspicion rather than actually trying to shift it.

Ironically "people not understand my reads/not caring ti read my reads" was also Votato's broken record

[HoldenGolden]

Oh @Chemist

I want some from of a Readlist. Your posts for this day phase has been 4 with only two directed to the vote. The only explanation you have given for it is doubting the claim. So go further, why do you think April's claim is fake as well as giving me the read list.

okay hold on

it’s like midnight for me and I’ve barely processed any of the thread but here

{Chemist}
{PP, mastina, Dunnstral}
{Conspire, farside22, Holden}
{jjh, Birds, Clover}
{April}

this feels...pretty alright?
ask me if you want any specifics I’ll probably respond in the morning

Since you later agree with Dunn that the tier I'm placed in is a town read (I'm guessing town lean) tier, what has pushed Conspire to that tier?

[HoldenGolden]

I have april as scum because she keeps changing her claim whenever it gets doubted

I had birds as scum for symmetry pretty much, they're about null but I didn't want to have to make an extra tier for them

Also explain.

The only time I've seen this was with the gambit day 1. From day 2 on she's kept a consistent explaintion of her role (tracker with two other abilities weaker than that -> tracker + Vouyer + Whatever the last one was)

[HoldenGolden]

Like- you said, “ I made everyone strongman” and not “I had to make everyone strongman”

Well, I had options but out of my options, I picked that one first. But yes it is compulsive that at one point I had to make everyone strongman.

I can somewhat buy that Clover's role claim on the face he gave a self rb request eariler this day phase.

Is any of your abilities not antitown?

[jjh927]

I'll be happy to case someone up, especially Chemist after that vote lmao

[jjh927]

VOTE: Jjh

His vote on me is the worst of the bunch because scum!jjh has the most to gain from voting me here

Expand. What about my vote on you is opportunistic?

[HoldenGolden]

I'll be happy to case someone up, especially Chemist after that vote lmao

I care less of whom it is on and more you actually doing something to convince people.

You want to convince people. Convince me.

[Chemist1422]

Oh @Chemist

I want some from of a Readlist. Your posts for this day phase has been 4 with only two directed to the vote. The only explanation you have given for it is doubting the claim. So go further, why do you think April's claim is fake as well as giving me the read list.

okay hold on

it’s like midnight for me and I’ve barely processed any of the thread but here

{Chemist}
{PP, mastina, Dunnstral}
{Conspire, farside22, Holden}
{jjh, Birds, Clover}
{April}

this feels...pretty alright?
ask me if you want any specifics I’ll probably respond in the morning

Since you later agree with Dunn that the tier I'm placed in is a town read (I'm guessing town lean) tier, what has pushed Conspire to that tier?

Town lean ye

I think their approach towards the votato wagon D1 is unlikely to be a bus considering they probably could have used the same logic to reach the opposite conclusion and no one would have batted an eye

[Chemist1422]

I have april as scum because she keeps changing her claim whenever it gets doubted

I had birds as scum for symmetry pretty much, they're about null but I didn't want to have to make an extra tier for them

Also explain.

The only time I've seen this was with the gambit day 1. From day 2 on she's kept a consistent explaintion of her role (tracker with two other abilities weaker than that -> tracker + Vouyer + Whatever the last one was)

that, the double target, and the late miller claim

[Chemist1422]

Townier side is the left side

Hard town: votato, HoldenGolden, Dr Easy Bake, Clover Ebi, April Ludgate, Creature
Town: mastina, chemist1422, Birds and the Boys, Conspire
Town but with mixed feelings: Calvin and Hobbes
Null: Bingle
Scum: PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Blatant Scum, farside22

VOTE: Chemist

Okay. Chemist, birds and boys, Dunnstral. No particular order. That's the scumteam in its entirety. Everyone else in the game is town.

this is literally every game-related mention of me I've found in your ISO

plus with scum!you as lead wagon you want an easy counterlynch to go through, which falls onto me

[jjh927]

That was a day 1 readslist yeah

I am the only one voting you, aren't I?

[jjh927]

Whereas your vote on me is ACTUALLY opportunistic as fuck

Trying to get ahead of the curve and lynch me before momentum picks up on you

[Chemist1422]

That was a day 1 readslist yeah

I am the only one voting you, aren't I?

No?

Hold on am I insane I could've sworn I had more votes than just you

[Chemist1422]

ok I am good to know

UNVOTE: jjh

[Birds and the Boys]

JJH, why are you ignoring the claimed innocent on Dunnstral in your scumteam?

- turducken

[Birds and the Boys]

Farside, what is your read on these people and why:
- chemist
- mastina
- conspire

I explain madtin multiple times this game day.
Ate you trying to get a read on players or look busy?
If the first, how do you have no reads on the players your questioning?
I'm not discussing chemist as many players scum read him that im scum reading and im not going to help scum make any case.
Conspire reads a bit under the radar. Not actively scum hunting, which is why he is on my scum list.
Why are you not questioning jjh?

1. You underestimate how much of a game I actually read as either alignment.
2. I do ask the same or largely the same question multiple times to lock in the other person's reads.

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I am trying to get a read on players. Part of it is asking people about their reads. Part of it is understanding why other players read someone a certain way.
What makes you think that I do not have a read on the players I am questioning?

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So, you're town reading Chemist then?

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We think that JJH is scum. We also think that probing other people is good for the game considering how quickly yesterday went.

I have april as scum because she keeps changing her claim whenever it gets doubted

I had birds as scum for symmetry pretty much, they're about null but I didn't want to have to make an extra tier for them

Well, at least you're honest.

I think that is interesting that April decided to claim miller today when we had three miller claims yesterday and she remained tight lipped about it.

- turducken

[Birds and the Boys]

I think I know who the JoAT/Messenger is if Conspire is telling the truth.

- turducken

[farside22]

Farside, what is your read on these people and why:
- chemist
- mastina
- conspire

I explain madtin multiple times this game day.
Ate you trying to get a read on players or look busy?
If the first, how do you have no reads on the players your questioning?
I'm not discussing chemist as many players scum read him that im scum reading and im not going to help scum make any case.
Conspire reads a bit under the radar. Not actively scum hunting, which is why he is on my scum list.
Why are you not questioning jjh?

1. You underestimate how much of a game I actually read as either alignment.
2. I do ask the same or largely the same question multiple times to lock in the other person's reads.

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I am trying to get a read on players. Part of it is asking people about their reads. Part of it is understanding why other players read someone a certain way.
What makes you think that I do not have a read on the players I am questioning?

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So, you're town reading Chemist then?

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We think that JJH is scum. We also think that probing other people is good for the game considering how quickly yesterday went.

I have april as scum because she keeps changing her claim whenever it gets doubted

I had birds as scum for symmetry pretty much, they're about null but I didn't want to have to make an extra tier for them

Well, at least you're honest.

I think that is interesting that April decided to claim miller today when we had three miller claims yesterday and she remained tight lipped about it.

- turducken

I don't see players throwing a bunch of questions to all players the way you do and it look like what you are describing. If it's about understanding someone's scum read I will ask again why you aren't pushing jjh for his scum reads with reason? You chose not to ask certain players for a reason?
As for chemist he is null. I see things I don't like, I see things that are cringe worthy but I see scum voting for him so I'm not helping the scum butts to make a case.
Is the gobble talking?

[April Ludgate]

I figured n1 was best given April and Votato were trying to confirm something and I didn't want either of them to claim blocked.

This is actually pretty solid reasoning

[April Ludgate]

Misty based on what I've seen.VOTE: Misty~Cosmic

This is ironic.

Conspire, what is your read on Mastina? What is your read on Clover Ebi?

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April, what is your read on Conspire?

- turducken

I town read my cosmic penguins.

Chemist is chainsawing me, that’s why

[April Ludgate]

I have april as scum because she keeps changing her claim whenever it gets doubted

I had birds as scum for symmetry pretty much, they're about null but I didn't want to have to make an extra tier for them

No i didn’t.

I clanged it once, and you can clearly see I was going for that gambit after Day 1, and it worked.

If Votato wasn’t Vig, it’d be much cleaner, but i still did exactly what i set out to do.

And then i full claimed. I have not “changed” my role.

[April Ludgate]

I shall

Sheep

the

Donkey

.

VOTE: April

~Cosmic

Donkeys dont like sheep though.

The sheep is a scum.

Holdilocks, move that silly RVS vote of yours onto actual Scummithy Jenkins over there.

No forever scum means you are forever scum, scum.

War is fun!

I am no scum, I am a dragon. Rawr

I SAID I AM DRAGON RAWR

~April

I SAID I AM DRAGON RAWR
~April

Considering that was my second pick:

PRESS

X

rawr

You two aren't very creative

You know Alyssa is a mod right?

Thought it was who mastina replied to. So yeah, it's mastina and April I referred to

I am a real life dragon: that is not my pick for this game.

And if you couldn’t tell, I ain’t no mystical magical UPick picker, someone says animal, i pick animal, they’re the Pokémon of the real world, ya weezy’s

However, I am a dragon.

Anyone doubting my flavor.