Open 778: Nightless Vanilla [Game Over!]

[Firebringer]

i cant be the rock of this game.
UNVOTE:

[Isis]

Firebringer is it ok if we lynch you and deadsheep your reads?

I kind of think you're mastermind scum

[Firebringer]

i want to say yes

[Firebringer]

i just need some god damn confidence.

[Firebringer]

why cant i have that

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Looker

[Green Crayons]

Isis-Hem-Elements could win the game except it doesn't because hem just wants to do nothing but lynch townies in exchange for his life

yeah I'm pretty okay with this town block

[Green Crayons]

VOTE: Looker

why is looker scum instead of bad town? also why am i his ally?

You've gone out of your way to not vote him.

First it was laying the burden on Ali's (dead) shoulders of trusting her town read.

And now it's "Looker is a bad town, he's now playing bad, ergo he is town" which is logic that cannot be defeated because any attempt to try to show that he's scum is "no that's just him being bad town"

[Green Crayons]

Also I don't know how to distinguish "bad town" from "scum" when the play is "not actually help find scum."

He makes most sense to vote.

[Firebringer]

You've gone out of your way to not vote him.

just did lol

[Isis]

I think I'm leaning Looker here

[Green Crayons]

You've gone out of your way to not vote him.

just did lol

yup. you did that after i came up with my theory, so I'm telling you why i thought you'd be a good Looker partner as of the time of my original post

[Green Crayons]

humaneatingmonkey
Deimos27
Elements
Green Crayons
Isis
Looker
Firebringer

basically deimos, looker, and FB are ?s in my mind so the only thing that really matters is order so that we don't go on a two town roll and everyone starts shitting themselves thinking we're going to have to revamp our entire thought process

[Green Crayons]

but if it's really 2/3 out of deimos, look, and FB then actually we'll hit one scum within two lynches so i guess that's not a real worry

[Looker]

If scum!HEM = True, then the strategy you're running is almost certainly to pocket me, sure, but I'm not gonna worry about that too much, because I've already determined scum!HEM = True is unlikely. I definitely wouldn't turn on you just for this half-baked "HEM is leading ergo HEM is scum" nonsense Looker is trying to push, I would want substantive evidence of scum-AI behaviour from you.

I didn't know you thought my push was "nonsense". Can you elaborate?

Looker is a terrible town player. He is playing terrible here. Lynching him is probably waste of everyones time.

As insulting as you're being, this looks like TMI.

u agree with Looker?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

That was an adequate use of social stigma as a defense.

I'm feeling a bit defeated. I don't think my play style is scummy. I think it is what people perceive as scummy.
VOTE: demios

Spoiler:

@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.

VOTE: Looker

You've gone out of your way to not vote him.

just did lol

What exactly are you doing? And what are you pretending to believe?

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• Green Crayons voting me was a blow to the stomach that I didn't see coming
  
• If Isis votes me, then I'm forsaken
  
• If you're going to kill me, at least give me one shot from my PoE: S{Firebringer | Monkey | Deimos | Green Crayons | Elements | Isis}T

[Green Crayons]

Green Crayons voting me was a blow to the stomach that I didn't see coming

I *did* list you as second in my POE after my VCA. This shouldn't be a surprise.

[Firebringer]

As insulting as you're being, this looks like TMI.

yea

[Isis]

VOTE: Firebringer

[Isis]

3389 is such goodposting

before the AtE
I was unaffected by the AtE
maybe

[Firebringer]

its not good posting.

but i like ur vote

[Isis]

I like the Alisae quote he sourced

I am reminded of the time azuresky hard townread me and was so demoralized by my noncooperation with her that she repped out

[Firebringer]

i think u and i both know i am not scum. I think we both know that people rarely sheep dead player reads, so i don't know why u kept bringing up "lets lynch u to sheep ur reads".

but i don't care about any of that.

[Isis]

I don't actually want to lynch you to sheep your reads per se. I feel like the possibility space where you are scum is the only one I feel worried about losing? So I need to lynch you. Like it has to do with a lot of associative patterns amongst the slots with scum potential. If you're not scum, I feel like I'm going to win anyway, I think GC scum really couldn't afford to amplify Deimos's voice a second ago, and then it's just like 2/2 in Looker Deimos (doesn't clear Deimos the way it clears GC because Deimos is more hailmary positioned).

[Isis]

And like, I was hard townreading you based on play itself yes but I ought to have some humility, and the way the uncharacteristically high content you've produced has led to scum lynches is, it hasn't led to scum lynches all that impressively has it? And for someone who effing loves to play scum, I really ought to check myself on how I interpret volume itself. In recent history you've been immensely lackadaisical as scum, pretty wet towel in apocalypse and chiptune, haven't remembered you having a good time since AvP.

[Green Crayons]

So not to be completely lazy, I ISO'd Looker.

i must have been seriously stoned when i saw that post then

You're not bussing Norway are you?

This comes out of left field. Why are you assuming Norwegian was scum here?

bit harsh to whoever this clemency guy is

Are you purposely not doing anything so that you don't leave any associations to your partners after you're lynched?

This is a very weird statement when Looker never voted for Cycle.

Spoiler: abrasive

I got a tone of abrasiveness in this one and this one. I don't recall you missing any of my questions. I think your reactions cater more to posts and not situations, and that strikes me as... inorganic.

This strikes me as...full of shit. What situations are occurring that are not accurately reflected in people's posts?

So you have no situations as examples. Got it.

You were right the first time.

Also...

...I'm not pathetic enough to accuse me for you. I'm holding my tongue, because "do some legwork" is a stupid thing to say and I'm hoping most of you idiots will putter yourselves out. If you have a question, ask it, if you have an accusation, accuse. Otherwise, fuck off.

...I'm not pathetic enough to accuse me for you. I'm holding my tongue, because "do some legwork" is a stupid thing to say and I'm hoping most of you idiots will putter yourselves out. If you have a question, ask it, if you have an accusation, accuse. Otherwise, fuck off.

Oooh, twice, the site must really want me to be heard. Or to up my post count (high post count = town, right?) fuckin amateurs

• @humandevouringamonkey: Do
  you
  think that I'm town or are you saying that there are posts of mine where it looks like I'm begging to be townread?
  • Also, do you feel that Green Crayons and Elements just coached you away from pursuing my lynch D1?

Are you done with your tantrums?

Was that your attempt to frame me as a child...? You don't seem to be very good at this.

Also, re:abrasiveness, since I'm here...

...in the first post, I called Deimos's remark pretentious, because it was.
...in the second post, I said that you had a self-centered perspective, which you do.

Your responses and categorization of me are peculiar.

p-edit: So it's an attempt to discredit my logic? Okay, we'll see how effective that tactic is.

This all seemed to take things up a notch. I didn't think that the original Looker post that HME called abrasive was actually abrasive, but these posts really kick it into high gear. Being needlessly antagonistic is anti-town at best, but I can also see it as a scum tactic (scum wouldn't want attention --> make attention by being combative --> doesn't look like scum).

Looker
talk to me
why am I scum

I don't trust you hinging your alignment on me. That was a totally different game with different mechanics.

And these shifting voting blocks are suspicious

.

Have you ever built on this?

• Whether the scumteam is FB/HEM or FB/Elements, FB is still the best move
  
• I take back what I said about "legwork". I trust people when they mention their meta because I don't want to read their old games. Like Isis. HEM you were right; I just didn't like that you called me abrasive. I'm sorry.

Have you every said *why* FB is scum?