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[Firebringer]

i think ive given all the opinions i have on anything that has piqued my interest so far in this game.

Now i just wait for his majesty to arrive and for the real shit show to commence.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alright boys and Drew-sta's in the crowd, let uncle Norwee explain basic shit to y'all. I'll only do this once so pay attention now! ^v^

I'm not sure i want to trust Firebringer anymore.

^This part of my post is indicating how a previous trust of Firebringer's town qualities had at this time been betrayed by the harsh and never ending passing of time, an concise explanation of this development follows in the next part of the quote. Which is as follows:

Because their read on Sakura makes no sense.

Here i am explaining how i saw Firebringer's read on Sakura as making little sense based upon further analysis. The inquiry is as follows:

Why are they so obvtown bruh?

Upon further examination, perhaps a rewrite would have been better for the purposes of clarifying my posts so that the more denser people in the crowd would be capable of correctly following the read progression in my excellent and capable mind.
To sum things up, my "why are they so obvtown bruh" sentence is asking the question to the subject: [Firebringer] why the defendant: [Sakura] is so, as he would put it. "town". When at the time i saw their little incursive explanations about Sakura's alignment leanings as quite scummy and very pockety.

VOTE: Firebringer

This needs no further explanation as it's as blunt as it comes.

Thank you~

[Firebringer]

dont worry norwee, ur going to get into my pocket soon enough.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

u could always ask me questions

That's true. Unfortunately, I have no idea what I could possibly ask that will help me determine your alignment.

at least u didn't ask me if i was town. I would have had to say no, otherwise my honesty streak ends.

Since you've been claiming to be scum, I'll just treat you as such.

VOTE: Firebringer

L-3

[Fredrick A Campbell]

What do you two think of Porkens? Their recent changes of vote make little sense.

[Firebringer]

What do you two think of Porkens? Their recent changes of vote make little sense.

Scum.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

What do you two think of Porkens? Their recent changes of vote make little sense.

Scum.

And is that based on prejudice or observations?

[Firebringer]

What do you two think of Porkens? Their recent changes of vote make little sense.

Scum.

And is that based on prejudice or observations?

Probably both.

[Firebringer]

I can't tell which is stronger.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Since it is also based on observations, what observations?

[Firebringer]

i don't think his reads make sense with what he has posted. His posts look more like he is trying to look like he is doing something.

[Firebringer]

i don't think his reads make sense with what he has posted. His posts look more like he is trying to look like he is doing something.

look at his progression on sakura and see what i mean.

[Drew-Sta]

i seriously eyeroll anytime a boomer tells me "OHH META CAN BE MANIPULATED" like of course u fucking moron. the idea is to finding the nuances the player isn't aware of or has a hard time changing and using that to inform you of the player. Not this revolutionary idea. But boomers can't adjust because they tried using meta once or twice realize "ohh shit people changed I can't use this anymore" and then went "ohh well meta is trash" instead "Ohh this meta is outdated I need to readjusted".

I don't think this is a problem only boomers have.

Anyone who shouts meta is trash and talks like that is a boomer for all i am concerned.

Boomer = Anyone who doesn't know how to adapt.

Which is the same as throwing away meta because you failed at once or twice. I am not even one of those who says "meta is god", I prefer using it as a tool of understanding the fundamentals of a player to rule out things I shouldn't consider alignment indicative. Understand the baseline of a player and then when players deviate you can dig deeper.

I’m not a boomer?

I don’t use meta as a primary source to inform my read on a player. Why is that so fucking horrible? Honestly, you read like Kermit D Frog flailing because someone disagrees with your worldview.

@Firebringer
Did i chainsaw?

unless ur ally is persivul. I don't see how u could have.

The general form of this tell is "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".

You defending Sakura by attacking FB is what you did. That’s why I called it a chainsaw. Whether I’ve used the correct term or not is besides the point - I was identifying your behaviour.

They're very intent on knowing where people sit with them, and then get defensive when people push at them.

None of this means anything. Plenty of people like to focus on what others reads are on them. For instance i got a read of Norwee based on his read on me.

You have no problem with someone sheeping views? That’s fine. But I do. Because following people especially if it leads to a mislynch is a way to absolve yourself of the poor lynch and then turn on the lead mislynch.

@Drew I read ur whole post and it almost seems liek ur theory on Norwee scum is directly related to Sakura being scum. You made many more points on Sakura being scum than Norwee. So why are u pushing Norwee? Is it because more people willing to lynch Norwee?

I picked one of the two. Put simply. I’m not saying I’m right but I formed a view and I’m willing to see where it goes. Doesn’t mean I won’t change. But we all begin somewhere.

Ohhh i think i finally get it.
So Drew's got it in his head that Sakura is scum, and they view my supposed "defense" of Sakura by attacking FB as a indirect defense of Sakura. Even though i was actually attacking FB because i saw their TR of Sakura as a pocketing attempt. So they either misunderstood or misrepresented my post to suit this narrative. Am i right?

Read what you said and align it with why I’m saying that’s scummy behaviour.

I’ve lost some quotes somewhere, so I’ll go find them.

[Drew-Sta]

just tell people who continue to say "meta is trash" that they are trash.

seriously all the oldies who shout meta = bad don't even understand how to use it because they are fucking boomers.

i seriously eyeroll anytime a boomer tells me "OHH META CAN BE MANIPULATED" like of course u fucking moron. the idea is to finding the nuances the player isn't aware of or has a hard time changing and using that to inform you of the player. Not this revolutionary idea. But boomers can't adjust because they tried using meta once or twice realize "ohh shit people changed I can't use this anymore" and then went "ohh well meta is trash" instead "Ohh this meta is outdated I need to readjusted".

I’m not a boomer. Don’t be a disrespectful dick.

I don’t use meta and I feel it is problematic but I don’t criticise people for using it. I simply pick apart the clear issues when they present.

[Drew-Sta]

i don't think his reads make sense with what he has posted. His posts look more like he is trying to look like he is doing something.

Some do, some don’t.

His post and vote on me is thoughtful, despite being wrong.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

i don't think his reads make sense with what he has posted. His posts look more like he is trying to look like he is doing something.

look at his progression on sakura and see what i mean.

I don't see what you mean. Isn't it possible for someone to have this thought progression?

[Firebringer]

i don't think its possible me playing mafia and not being a disrespectful prick....

can such a thing be done?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Disrespectful? Criticism isn't disrespectful. Calling people names is.

[Firebringer]

I don’t use meta as a primary source to inform my read on a player. Why is that so fucking horrible? Honestly, you read like Kermit D Frog flailing because someone disagrees with your worldview.

honestly i wasn't even talking to u buddy or fredrick.

i was talking about people calling meta trash in general sense. If u fall into that group. Then sure, take that rant at urself personally or something idc.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I'm going to sleep. See you tomorrow. (Latest, 0400 GMT)

[Firebringer]

Disrespectful? Criticism isn't disrespectful. Calling people names is.

if i wanted to call people names i would direct them right at them. I think u and drew got way to defensive of my rant on meta haters and decided u belonged to the group and my rant was at u guys. Which is like ???? since both of u decided to also distance urself from the group i labelled but also felt marginalized by me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why r u mad at Firebringer now Drew? I've been much more disrespectful. And i relish in it.

[Firebringer]

he is scared of u because ur a fairy

[Kerset]

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[Kerset]

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