Animals Upick [Game Over]

Chemist1422 · Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:15 am

In post 2595, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2592, April Ludgate wrote:I don’t believe the Ninja claim.
Well let's think about it:

One mafia is making the kills appear as "drowned"
We can assume the same mafia is performing the kills

We assume a separate mafia is roleblocking people

So for Bird to be scum in your "ninja is fake" scenario he'd have to be the 1 mafia doing nothing - not even commuting, to my knowledge, since that gives you a different message. You're claiming you did get a result, and that it's that they went nowhere, right? Not 'no result'?

then where did the n2 message coming from if I'm lying

Chemist1422 · Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:16 am

Let me check something real quick

Chemist1422 · Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:20 am

Oh yeah and fwiw Dunn was 100% roleblocked, because BS made me targetable no matter flavor restrictions, and I'm not a commuter or ascetic

farside22 · Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:21 am

In post 2627, Chemist1422 wrote:Oh yeah and fwiw Dunn was 100% roleblocked, because BS made me targetable no matter flavor restrictions, and I'm not a commuter or ascetic

You said you were rb

farside22 · Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:21 am

In post 2470, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 2469, Dunnstral wrote:Chemist were you roleblocked or do you have a result?
roleblocked

Chemist1422 · Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:25 am

In post 2628, farside22 wrote:
In post 2627, Chemist1422 wrote:Oh yeah and fwiw Dunn was 100% roleblocked, because BS made me targetable no matter flavor restrictions, and I'm not a commuter or ascetic
You said you were rb

I said I'm checking something, it's related to that

But I'm also considering something like a mafia JOAT with a blocking ability

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:39 am

Farside can you claim your animal

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:39 am

I would like Miss Lynch to claim

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:40 am

I get that we should die today to preserve LyLo, but independent the utility of that, who does everyone think is scum? Obviously April wants Mastina dead. Farside wants Mastina dead. Who else does everyone else want dead?

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:46 am

I just realized that BS was also a miller. Wow.

Miss Lane · Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:01 am

In post 2623, farside22 wrote:Oh and ML refusing to claim is very scummy in my eyes.

Miss Lane · Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:02 am

In post 2544, Miss Lane wrote: I will not mass claim. I'm opposed to it on principle. It makes games boring and unfun and stupid. If you lynch me on that I will not be disappointed in the slightest.

Miss Lane · Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:03 am

If we are lynching me can we do it today cuz I'd prefer not waste my time getting invested if everyone's gonna simultaneously decide to lynch me.

Miss Lane · Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:04 am

Farside I like you tbh but idk if you can sell me on the fact that me not claiming is what's making you think I'm scum, and that doesn't make me comfortable.

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:06 am

Miss Lynch, your slot is prime lynch material with or without a claim from you. Your slot has done nothing all game.

farside22 · Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:26 am

In post 2631, Birds and the Boys wrote:Farside can you claim your animal

Lemur

In post 2636, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 2544, Miss Lane wrote: I will not mass claim. I'm opposed to it on principle. It makes games boring and unfun and stupid. If you lynch me on that I will not be disappointed in the slightest.

How does it make the game boring, unfun, stupid?
It helps town win more often then lose.
Are you trying to help the game or hurt the game?

Miss Lane · Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:31 am

There's a difference between earning a win due to reliably communicating with other players to achieve a lynch on your agreed upon scum reads, and everybody sharing what role they got and then just lynching out of the the roles that are the least likely to be town. If I wanted to play the second game, I'd just review setups all day, because setup speculation is all it is. It takes little to no skill, and it's a crutch that prevents players from getting to actually play mafia. Winning through it feels like cheating, losing because of it feels like being robbed.

Miss Lane · Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:32 am

That, and losing because the cop got a lucky guilty are actually sickening, but that's just my perspective. I also prefer more vanilla setups, though, I guess.

farside22 · Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:34 am

In post 2641, Miss Lane wrote:There's a difference between earning a win due to reliably communicating with other players to achieve a lynch on your agreed upon scum reads, and everybody sharing what role they got and then just lynching out of the the roles that are the least likely to be town. If I wanted to play the second game, I'd just review setups all day, because setup speculation is all it is. It takes little to no skill, and it's a crutch that prevents players from getting to actually play mafia. Winning through it feels like cheating, losing because of it feels like being robbed.

Players communicate poorly.
Scum gets caughts in lies. Town can narrow down reads.
Its not just wifom or setup spec.

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:34 am

So Miss Lynch, how about you "reliably communicate with other players to achieve a lynch on your agreed upon scumreads" ?

- turducken

farside22 · Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:36 am

Example currently is chemist claimed owl cop/messenger. Says he was rb but dunn claim animal neighborizor whose action failed when targwting chemist.
Whom do you believe?

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:36 am

In post 2642, Miss Lane wrote:That, and losing because the cop got a lucky guilty are actually sickening, but that's just my perspective. I also prefer more vanilla setups, though, I guess.

Chemist has already claimed he was roleblocked. There isn't any lucky guilty?

Chemist1422 · Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:52 am

Roleblocked or my action failed due to ascetic/commuter/whatever

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:59 am

Chemist who do you think is scum?

Chemist1422 · Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 4:01 am

In post 2648, Birds and the Boys wrote:Chemist who do you think is scum?

my best guess rn is you/clover/mastina

clover's claim felt like it was to try to save you and mastina's been underwhelming