Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

GuiltyLion · Post Post #2525 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 7:39 am

In post 2523, Eve wrote:i'm never scum with GuiltyLion here you can see my frustration with him was genuine so please don't lynch him tomorrow - he doesn't deserve that

Eve · Post Post #2526 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 7:49 am

what who do you think my partner is if it isn't you?

Tiger Shark · Post Post #2527 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 8:08 am

Well played under pressure Eve.

~Titus

Eve · Post Post #2528 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 8:22 am

thanks! i thought i could've gotten away with it by redirecting to skitter towards the start but... things happened

what made you so sure of me? that VCA is more powerful than i thought

Tiger Shark · Post Post #2529 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 8:49 am

The fact you were a counter three times to town
The fact you asked for my methodology but never followed up with your own attempt at VCA, despite multiple invitations.
The deer in the headlights look when I FoSed you
Your general vote pattern
You possibly fitting in as scum in my PoE
Your skitter push felt half assed
The OMGUS.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #2530 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 8:53 am

is this theater hmmMMM

I still think Titus being so dead-set on scum!Eve loosely fits a bussing play tho I'm not certain

Skit is basically locktown now I think

GuiltyLion · Post Post #2531 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 8:54 am

Titus why did you open today by voting Eve instead of pushing me when you've consistently said I'm your top scumread

Tiger Shark · Post Post #2532 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 8:57 am

In post 2531, GuiltyLion wrote:Titus why did you open today by voting Eve instead of pushing me when you've consistently said I'm your top scumread

Because it was clear I wouldn't get you. The VCA argument on Eve was easier to follow.

Eve · Post Post #2533 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 9:03 am

In post 2529, Tiger Shark wrote:The fact you were a counter three times to town
The fact you asked for my methodology but never followed up with your own attempt at VCA, despite multiple invitations.
The deer in the headlights look when I FoSed you
Your general vote pattern
You possibly fitting in as scum in my PoE
Your skitter push felt half assed
The OMGUS.

i am actually interested in learning VCA though this just doesn't seem like the best game for it

do you have any tips for how i could look less scummy next time?

GuiltyLion · Post Post #2534 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 9:04 am

also you all have fun in the PT we didn't really use ours N2

Eve · Post Post #2535 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 9:05 am

In post 2530, GuiltyLion wrote:is this theater hmmMMM

I still think Titus being so dead-set on scum!Eve loosely fits a bussing play tho I'm not certain

Skit is basically locktown now I think

nah it's not - i would've been pushing/going for Titus today if we were partners to really distance us

oh hang on i did that with skitter...

GuiltyLion · Post Post #2536 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 9:06 am

oh wait there's no PT on a scum lynch is there

Eve · Post Post #2537 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 9:07 am

yeah otherwise i would've self-hammered to deny a place

Eve · Post Post #2538 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 9:45 am

maybe i'm lynchproof and i just don't know it

Eve · Post Post #2539 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 9:59 am

just realised i'm not hammered since Tiger Shark never actually revoted me

VOTE: BBmolla

too late to try this? feel like he could be my partner given how he voted with me on skitts but then randomly switched when there didn't seem to be support

Tiger Shark · Post Post #2540 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 10:08 am

VOTE: Eve

Just in case. I never unvoted but oh well.

skitter30 · Post Post #2541 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 10:28 am

sweet

Tiger Shark · Post Post #2542 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:37 pm

In post 2533, Eve wrote:
In post 2529, Tiger Shark wrote:The fact you were a counter three times to town
The fact you asked for my methodology but never followed up with your own attempt at VCA, despite multiple invitations.
The deer in the headlights look when I FoSed you
Your general vote pattern
You possibly fitting in as scum in my PoE
Your skitter push felt half assed
The OMGUS.
i am actually interested in learning VCA though this just doesn't seem like the best game for it

do you have any tips for how i could look less scummy next time?

In terms of VCA, part of it I can't answer until the game is over. My best stab is don't be the counterwagon to town three times (four supposing Skitter is town).

VCA can be used because it's about determining scum's motivations. The best ways to defeat or frustrate VCA are to act in manners that do not play organically (ensure no wagons come up, vote as a cohesive unit as scum). In this game, scum's early motivation was to sheep agreement required because that ensures a town lynch. Yet, don't draw attention to being sheepy.

I feel like this consensus agreement saved you day 1. It hampered your counterwagon from ever going through. The traffic analyst, if this setup is run again, should be given free reign.

Engaging more with the substance of my posts and faking a VCA attempt, no matter how bad, would help as well.

Eve · Post Post #2543 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 3:04 pm

In post 2542, Tiger Shark wrote:vote as a cohesive unit as scum)

really? i've always been told it's bad for scum to vote with each other

thing about that though is people then expect for it not to happen which makes it good to do?

at times this game i was afraid of voting with my scum buddy but at others i just voted with them because i thought it would distance us in a weird way haha

Tiger Shark · Post Post #2544 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 4:06 pm

In post 2543, Eve wrote:
In post 2542, Tiger Shark wrote:vote as a cohesive unit as scum)
really? i've always been told it's bad for scum to vote with each other

thing about that though is people then expect for it not to happen which makes it good to do?

at times this game i was afraid of voting with my scum buddy but at others i just voted with them because i thought it would distance us in a weird way haha

That bad form is common advice and routinely built into my VCA. If someone's voting next to you on a wagon, they get town points for that reason. A pack of scum voting deliberately would throw this off, but is hard to pull off in thread.

VCA is a lot about applying assumptions to votes. Assumptions can vary setup to setup.

Eve · Post Post #2545 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 4:34 pm

hey Titus i made you a new tiger shark avatar:

could you use it in my honour?

northsidegal · Post Post #2546 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 4:57 pm

Votecount 3.Final

Target	Wagon
Eve (4)	Tiger Shark (2145), skitter30 (2147), BBmolla (2413), The Limit Does Not Exist (2524)

Not Voting (3)	Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion (2286), Eve (2514)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Eve has been lynched.

northsidegal · Post Post #2547 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2020 4:58 pm

Eve was lynched. She was a...

Spoiler: Role PM

Night 3 begins now and ends in (expired on 2020-05-27 22:58:59).

northsidegal · Post Post #2548 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2020 5:04 pm

Morning Tweet was killed. She was a...

Spoiler: Role PM

Day 4 begins.

northsidegal · Post Post #2549 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2020 5:04 pm

Votecount 4.0

Target	Wagon

Not Voting (5)	Tiger Shark, The Limit Does Not Exist, skitter30, GuiltyLion, BBmolla

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. The Day 4 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-06 23:05:59).

CITY THAT NEVER SLEEPS
	You are a City Planner . During the day, you have your voice, your vote, and your suspicions. If you are lynched, every player on your wagon will be added to a neighborhood, which will remain open until the end of the following day. You win when all members of the mafia are dead. The game thread is here. After reading this, please confirm by responding with your role.
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