Open 779: Pick Your Power X/Y Game Over!

[DonCorleone]

I actually really don't like a lot of drpepper's posting but I think he was voting in the same places as me for like over half of D1 and I think that speaks to towniness. I don't agree with his farkset take though.

drpepper, why do you think farkset are scum?

[skitter30]

I have a clear on CSF

why not jv or nm

[DonCorleone]

DC, how interested are you in a defense based on meta?

given that you're aware enough of your own meta to want to defend yourself with it, not that interested.

I'm not gonna tell you to stop if you think you have a smoking gun to prove your innocence though

[DonCorleone]

I have a clear on CSF

why not jv or nm

I felt kinda paranoid about my CSF read after being so wrong on aldus and I figured that the top slots were most likely to eat a NK

[DonCorleone]

why JV?

[skitter30]

a few things:
1. dp's posting is probably great but i'm not sure he hammers as a partner when there were still semi-viable other options (including just not voting / showing up)
2. i thought csf's positioning on aldu was probably not partner-indicative
3. i think you should have checked jv or nm because if they're town they're going to end up mislynched at some point, which would suck. that's a very suboptimal check imo

[skitter30]

why JV?

literally looks like scum trying to find any other place to vote than their partner at eod + having like no content + just like read their eod and tell me how that's a townie progression on like anything

[skitter30]

also your push on alimida kinda looks like trying to divert off a partner @dc

[Farkset]

Ok so here's what i think:

1) I was plenty correct in saying that the wagon on almidia was born to save alduskkel, which implies almidia conftown to me and dunnstral/jacksonvirgo/iconeum/drpepper in awful positions on that wagon.
2) Out of those four names i like drpepper the best based on his d1 performance, the tunnel on me feels genuine. Scum wouldn't vote on one of the reasons why alduskkel went down, denying any possibility to be wrong is a town perk, but man you must start to open your eyes at some point
3) At least one out of JV/NM must have something to say.
4) DonCorleone and CSF are conftown today, based on flips and my personal knowledge. Might be a scum cop but i don't care about that offchance right now
5) Melody was probably killed for being the earlier counterwagon to alduskkel and one of the main pushers, with the red flip they would have never been lynched, which means the scumteam is more than half-competent

Conclusions:

A) Until proven wrong i am down to lynch Dunnstral or Iconeum today. At least one of them is scum, i'm betting a slice of my ass on it (i have a quite abudant ass though so it's not a real problem)
B) Skitter should never reach lylo. I'm serious. Sorry skit, but the way you were insisting about changing wagons + how you refused to go on melody at the very eod + the voice of disappoint after he was hammered look like professional distancing to me. Your confidence and your refusal to switch votes sound like you were trying to feign absolute ignorance about the flip but at the same time you didn't want to look bad by jumping off of it. If you are town, i will owe you an apology. Until lylo i do want to work together with you though, and i will defend any lynch against you with my life, hoping that i was wrong and we win earlier. A fact stands though, that when i get in any-amount lylo i will immediately vote skitter without even rereading.

VOTE: Dunnstral, i think it's better to prioritize this given how much he insisted about the vig pick which was just now confirmed picked by town.

[skitter30]

Skitter should never reach lylo. I'm serious. Sorry skit, but the way you were insisting about changing wagons + how you refused to go on melody at the very eod + the voice of disappoint after he was hammered look like professional distancing to me. Your confidence and your refusal to switch votes sound like you were trying to feign absolute ignorance about the flip but at the same time you didn't want to look bad by jumping off of it. If you are town, i will owe you an apology. Until lylo i do want to work together with you though, and i will defend any lynch against you with my life, hoping that i was wrong and we win earlier. A fact stands though, that when i get in any-amount lylo i will immediately vote skitter without even rereading.

i can work with most of this ... until the very last sentence cuz that would lose the game. like i would literally be fine with this if you gave me time to convince you otherwise in lylo, cuz as it stands scum just let us both be in lylo and we lose

you realize that i was given ample oppurtunity at eod to avoid the aldu lynch and i went with it anyways tho,right? i could have forced a nolynch or a melody lynch

[skitter30]

VOTE: Dunnstral, i think it's better to prioritize this given how much he insisted about the vig pick which was just now confirmed picked by town.

also n3 vig and 1s vig are different roles

[Farkset]

Skitter should never reach lylo. I'm serious. Sorry skit, but the way you were insisting about changing wagons + how you refused to go on melody at the very eod + the voice of disappoint after he was hammered look like professional distancing to me. Your confidence and your refusal to switch votes sound like you were trying to feign absolute ignorance about the flip but at the same time you didn't want to look bad by jumping off of it. If you are town, i will owe you an apology. Until lylo i do want to work together with you though, and i will defend any lynch against you with my life, hoping that i was wrong and we win earlier. A fact stands though, that when i get in any-amount lylo i will immediately vote skitter without even rereading.

i can work with most of this ... until the very last sentence cuz that would lose the game. like i would literally be fine with this if you gave me time to convince you otherwise in lylo, cuz as it stands scum just let us both be in lylo and we lose

you realize that i was given ample oppurtunity at eod to avoid the aldu lynch and i went with it anyways tho,right? i could have forced a nolynch or a melody lynch

Well, you know as much as i do that you are capable of performing a well-mannered bus. But that's not my problem today. If we are both town and we are left alive we should win this game well before lylo.

pedit: oh hmm... you are right, i just read the vigilante word and didn't think that there could be two. Eh, my main reason for voting dunnstral is not the vig fishing though, it's his position on Almidia and how he went by mid-to-late d1. I can also do iconeum, but dunnstral is fine.

-Farkran (i forgot to sign)

[DoctorPepper]

I actually really don't like a lot of drpepper's posting but I think he was voting in the same places as me for like over half of D1 and I think that speaks to towniness. I don't agree with his farkset take though.

drpepper, why do you think farkset are scum?

So here the thing. I've had Farkset in my scumdar for the whole day and something didn't sit well with me with how the easily tried to paint me as scum for that hammer.

Btw that was a lol hammer for deadline sake. A lot of people expressed 'oh i think you'll flip town but we gotta get a lynch' yet somehow I was scummy there? That's a whole load of crap.

[DoctorPepper]

a few things:
1. dp's posting is probably great but i'm not sure he hammers as a partner when there were still semi-viable other options (including just not voting / showing up)
2. i thought csf's positioning on aldu was probably not partner-indicative
3. i think you should have checked jv or nm because if they're town they're going to end up mislynched at some point, which would suck. that's a very suboptimal check imo

You do realize I could have just diverted from the Aldus wagon or ensured a no lynch if I was scum right?

[skitter30]

Well, you know as much as i do that you are capable of performing a well-mannered bus. But that's not my problem today. If we are both town and we are left alive we should win this game well before lylo.

i'll drop it for right now but if we're both still alive day before lylo i'm going to be trying to talk you out of it cuz i don't want to lose

[DoctorPepper]

I'd really rather not lynch Aldus and would swing for farm over melody

But hey, deadline

VOTE: Aldus

This slot is bad

At this precise moment in time i want to ship a melody/iconeum/drpepper solve.

Day 2 will talk about how much i was correct or wrong

-Farkran

So after this you're just gonna say "DP is town based on D1 performance"

FOH with that scum

[DoctorPepper]

Ok so turns out my availability might not be as good as i thought so

VOTE: aldus

Might be able to check in here and there but no promises

Yeah Dats could have claimed they weren't online if they didn't bus Aldus

DC dats is probably town

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Datisi felt like he could be bussing there unwillingly

VOTE: datisi

What about it felt like a bus?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I’m inclined to look offwagon as a jumping point

VOTE: jv

[Cat Scratch Fever]

So after this you're just gonna say "DP is town based on D1 performance"

FOH with that scum

He seems to have changed his mind about you after seeing aldus’ flip. Why is that not a plausible line of thinking?

Can you remind me why you were scumreading the slot yday?

[Farkset]

I'd really rather not lynch Aldus and would swing for farm over melody

But hey, deadline

VOTE: Aldus

This slot is bad

At this precise moment in time i want to ship a melody/iconeum/drpepper solve.

Day 2 will talk about how much i was correct or wrong

-Farkran

So after this you're just gonna say "DP is town based on D1 performance"

FOH with that scum

So you assume that while i know that aldus flips scum (because i am also scum), i call you a bad slot for hammering it, then i enter d2 calling you town... ok. I mean, i could accept a similar reasoning that i made towards skitter a few posts above, but i have been pushing aldus for the most part of d1 and i insisted on pushing even after the almidia wagon formed and reached L-2. Then, 2 hours from deadline i try to switch onto melody because i was almost convinced that aldus was town, skitter denies me the chance so i get immediately back on aldus, AND night 1 i kill melody, who was also townreading me.

Correct me where i am wrong, and after you're done please vote dunnstral with me

[Farkset]

-Fark

Lost habit of signing

[skitter30]

dc why do you think you didn't die?

[JacksonVirgo]

it

You're prolly town because it's unlikely you and Aldus agreed to both pick 2.

Yeah I'm going to have to agree with this one, sadly.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Dunnstral, i think it's better to prioritize this given how much he insisted about the vig pick which was just now confirmed picked by town.

also n3 vig and 1s vig are different roles

What's the real difference except when you can shoot?