Grand Idea GPick [Game Over]

[Titus]

I am beginning to think maybe I should move over to CL. BM's vote is bothering me. It could be a bus, and slots like Quick moved away from CL.

Be careful, or you might get a SR from Manatee with this type of non-committal votes.

But the fact that our brains were in sync for a little bit meant the world to me.

Please reconsider.

Meant the world to you? I am not sure who your main is but no one should think of my day 1 reads that highly.

Also, Manatee SRing me is no big deal. I already SR them. This feels more like a threat rather than a plea.

The tone in this post is all over the place.

I hadn't even voted you and you're pushing me to reconsider.

What is your read on BM?

[Ircher]

BM is conf!town in two ways.

[Bingle]

People who are around should claim confirmable role/nonconfirmable role and card color.

Card color is abusable for town. Knowing how close we are to being able to find a scum solely off of roleclaims is also useful for town.

[Ircher]

My role is confirmable. I'm vigging Bingle tonight.

[Bingle]

Farside, in Bingle's 1001 the tone seems like he knows CL is scum and is trying to lay the seeds to of a future mislynch, that was my initial hot take read after reading it. Obviously if CL is town, then there is nothing to see here, move on.

Make an argument for how it isn't a shit wagon then.

Lol, talk about missing the point.

Not at all.

It’s a shit wagon.

If it is a shit wagon on town it probably contains scum. If it’s a shit wagon on scum it probably contains scum. If you want to argue that it doesn’t contain scum, show me why it’s not a shit wagon.

[Ircher]

Chateau has a high chance of being third party like lyncher --> thus, no reason to lynch them right now.

[Bingle]

I'm still waiting for you to explain why the green color that boring claimed to receive makes any sense to you.

It’s NAI?

Boring got a card. Boring chose to claim a card of a color he didn’t get. Boring either did this as scum with access to the possible card colors or town with access to the possible card colors, and I have no reason to believe either is more likely because when he did so group consensus said claiming cards was bad.

Never attribute to malice what can adequately be described by human stupidity.

[Bingle]

My role is confirmable. I'm vigging Bingle tonight.

Aren’t you supposed to be telling me how two lynches during this dayphase is pro scum?

[Ircher]

I'd also like to mention that boring has stuck to the green card claim. I don't really see scum that slipped about card colors doing that.

pedit: No. A 2-day lynch phase is useless because people can't agree on anything in such a short period of time.

[Bingle]

You’ve never seen a 48 hour lynch?

You’ve never seen a situation where you’d want to lynch two players in a row?

[Bingle]

My role is confirmable. I'm vigging Bingle tonight.

Why vig me when quick needs to be vigged to resolve fats’ claim and I literally just claimed 100% lynchable today?

[Bingle]

Far’s not fats

[Ircher]

I'm banking on there is another vig for Quick. Vigs are pretty popular you know.

[Bingle]

You’re banking on multiple vigs after a night of 0 nks to solve the potentially game ending role over the guy who literally replaced in and claimed we can get a second lynch by lynching him first.

Okay.

[Two Girls One Vote]

Uh why are we vigging bingle? Personally i could go for a CL wagon but i havent discussed with the interested one

- the money

[Bingle]

Ircher's upset that I won't let him get away with saying that the clearly protown mechanic is bad to use as town so is threatening to vig me.

Also I think Dr. Drew wants me dead because I pointed out that there's only one towny player on the CL wagon?

Talk to me about where you guys are at with chem, 2g.

[Bingle]

okay so I reread the interaction and I agree it didn't feel natural reading the back and forth but in the end I thought books read scummy with this exchange.

I thought they both looked terrible (if unaligned), but as promised I'll drop it for now.

[Bingle]

To be clear, I want a good idea of who we're lynching afterwards if this flips blue, so I in no way support ending the day right now. People who do and still won't engage with or even humor my arguments as to why claiming conf/nonconf and card color are sketch as fuck. To compare, look at farside who is at least attempting to understand what I'm saying.

People who aren't CL and that I'm actively interested in lynching right now are hellbooks, Chem, MD, Irch. Of those, which would you prefer for a second lynch if CL flips town blue card. Scum blue card?

[Bingle]

what's the case on CL?

So in the beginning he put Quick to L-1 and then calls out manatee about his post to Quick.
Now at first I thought it was a good point but when Manatee explains himself I see a hesitation and then its followed by weak reasoning. Since then I've seen CL buddy up to players with votes and his comment about knowing his own play style and saying it is all NAI really reads as a player trying hard not to play. It's the so low under the radar you won't catch him and he won't show his hand.
I don't really see anything that reads as scum hunting other then one post, and one post does not = town in my world.

Best summary case so far.

[farside22]

I'm still waiting for you to explain why the green color that boring claimed to receive makes any sense to you.

It’s NAI?

Boring got a card. Boring chose to claim a card of a color he didn’t get. Boring either did this as scum with access to the possible card colors or town with access to the possible card colors, and I have no reason to believe either is more likely because when he did so group consensus said claiming cards was bad.

Never attribute to malice what can adequately be described by human stupidity.

Green wasn't a choice I saw listed on choices. That is why I'm confused how this is NAI.
I'm not scum reading the guy but I'm curious where your line of thought comes from, maybe post game we can discuss this.

You’re banking on multiple vigs after a night of 0 nks to solve the potentially game ending role over the guy who literally replaced in and claimed we can get a second lynch by lynching him first.

Okay.

It's post like the one you quoted from Ircher that has me leaning scum on him.

okay so I reread the interaction and I agree it didn't feel natural reading the back and forth but in the end I thought books read scummy with this exchange.

I thought they both looked terrible (if unaligned), but as promised I'll drop it for now.

I would lynch books if it helps?
Dr. Drew certainly went after you hard when you came in. I'm not sure where it came from.

VOTE: Hellbooks

[Two Girls One Vote]

So the one who is more into it townreads ircher. I don't as much, and I think the vig claim is a bit sketchy. But I dont think we will be voting for ircher today. I think we could go for hellbooks for sure. Chem i just have in our notes as "scum?" But I'd have to go look over the iso to see why. part of it is probably an activity tell scum!chem is lurker!chem. Actually chem's postcount is pretty high. Why arent the posts memorable? I feel like chem is normally reasonably memorable. Hmm, a quick look over the chem iso and I feel like its actually pretty townie, if disengaged and low-effort. But we are also disengaged and low-effort, so no judgement there. Personally I'd prefer hellbooks, CL, and then maybe MD if the first two are no-gos. Boring is still obvscum and we should lynch that slot first no matter what.

- the money

[Ircher]

How is boring "obvscum"?

[Ircher]

{Ircher}
{Battle Mage}
{farside22, TrueSoulEnergy}
{Chemist1422}
{boring, Iconeum} --- NULL/NEUTRAL LINE
{Two Girls One Vote, hellbooks}
{Titus, Hoctac}
{ManateeDude, Pigman}
{Bingle}
{Doctor Drew}

3rd Party: {Chateau Lobby, Quick}

I actually feel pretty confident in all my townreads right now.

[Doctor Drew]

Ircher's upset that I won't let him get away with saying that the clearly protown mechanic is bad to use as town so is threatening to vig me.

Also I think Dr. Drew wants me dead because I pointed out that there's only one towny player on the CL wagon?

Talk to me about where you guys are at with chem, 2g.

What a misrep.

I said your post is a little scummy, with the caveat that if CL is town then it isn't scummy at all. Even if CL is scum you wouldn't immediately jump to the top of my scum reads.

Please point to where I am trying to build a case on you.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Farside, I wouldn't describe that as 'coming hard' at Bingle.