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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:15 am

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Scum having a choice in how they make our lives easier doesn't change the fact that they'd be making our lives easier by narrowing the possibilities.
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:15 am

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I got No visitors on Paragon.

I was not roleblocked. I did NOT get No result.

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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:16 am

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We will have to agree to disagree.

Its now between votato and myself. I was not roleblocked.
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:17 am

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at this point theres certainly no point in no lynching
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:17 am

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VOTE: KAAG
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:19 am

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that claim from KAAG is a bit odd. why wait to claim his result if he had no result? also, he claimed BP. there was one other BP claim in this game, who from? scum.
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:20 am

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It's a moot point now, yeah. It's a solid theory argument that I'd strongly defend if it were still relevant to this game. :P

It should be obvious which way I'm leaning, but I'm not certain I'm right. I'll reread soon.
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:21 am

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You still around KAAG?
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:22 am

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I waited for this exact reason. To see if you would claim something that would prove to me you were scum.

I made it clear I had watched before you put your foot in it.

I thought you were scum within 10 posts of replacing in. Not with Pete, but it was independent of Pete.
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:22 am

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Yeah, shoot?
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:22 am

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Do you still have your BP?
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:24 am

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A quick answer would be ideal.
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:25 am

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I don't know. BPs don't get told they've lost it.

I suspect it was removed last night. No lose for scum.

There's been an NK every night, so i suspect I had it going into last night.
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 1197, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:As far as I am aware, I still have both my watch and my BP status.
This pings me a bit then, though I could still plausibly see it coming from town.
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:36 am

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I thought today would be difficult.

I can't stop you and Paragon doubting yourselves but I feel all three of us thought it was votato yesterday.

I was sad when i got my PM, I thought I had wasted the watch. Now I'm stoked.

PEdit: I had to message the mod to find out I had my watch left. He did not tell me until I prodded him.
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:36 am

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EBWOP: and it took a while to get a reply.
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:39 am

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I still haven't come to terms with the fact that Fwesnid was scum. I should go look at his interactions.

I'm curious what Paragon will think. This result hasn't told me a ton - Paragon has been obvtown for a while - but yeah I do think it's likely to just be votato. Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:19 pm

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In post 1331, Klick wrote:It's a moot point now, yeah. It's a solid theory argument that I'd strongly defend if it were still relevant to this game. :P

It should be obvious which way I'm leaning, but I'm not certain I'm right. I'll reread soon.
Agreed lol, I was ready to start arguing for No-lynch before I saw it was a 1v1.
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:22 pm

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I'm like at 80% votato.
In post 1308, votato wrote:im here but my next post is gonna require a lot of effort, and im not sure whether effort is worthwhile atm.
In post 1310, votato wrote:
In post 1309, Klick wrote:It doesn't have to require a lot of effort if you're town. The question is not a hard one.
the answer is a long one.
In post 1312, votato wrote:tl;dr: i think based on claims i have some idea about who scum is. i didnt learn much from the reaction test, no.
Think it might be worth explaining now, votato?
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:23 pm

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The only thing that pinged me about KAAG yesterday is that he made a massive show of saying Fwensid was scum and that no one should argue this whatsoever. Like, he was eager to show that he wasn't considering any other scenario, possibly for some juicy towncred.
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:28 pm

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The same thing had me pause. There are little crumbs of things in both KAAG's and eyestott's play that I could see from a scum PoV, but the main difference is that I can also see them coming from town. Whereas a lot of votato stuff is just a head-scratcher if he's town.
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 1345, Klick wrote:The same thing had me pause. There are little crumbs of things in both KAAG's and eyestott's play that I could see from a scum PoV, but the main difference is that I can also see them coming from town. Whereas a lot of votato stuff is just a head-scratcher if he's town.
thats just my meta tho. look through my completed games and see if you can understand. I'm just bad at this game and don't make sense. that said, ill go through and make a proper effort post likely tomorrow.
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:31 pm

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also look at micro 938: butterfly mafia. i was scum and my scumplay there looks nothing like this. i efforted there, cuz i prefer to play scum.
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 1330, votato wrote:that claim from KAAG is a bit odd. why wait to claim his result if he had no result? also, he claimed BP. there was one other BP claim in this game, who from? scum.
Why is that a point for KAAG being scum? You think two scum are likely to claim BP like that together? Also, he would wait to claim before you so that he can potentially catch you out if you claimed to have roleblocked me for whatever reason. Or roleblocked him infact.

would be great to address btw. I'm guessing that's what your effort post will tackle.
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 1345, Klick wrote:The same thing had me pause. There are little crumbs of things in both KAAG's and eyestott's play that I could see from a scum PoV, but the main difference is that I can also see them coming from town. Whereas a lot of votato stuff is just a head-scratcher if he's town.
We should probably look at the NKs more closely again. I thought there was a strong case for votato being scum from them earlier, but we should definitely look into how KAAG/eyestott were being read by the kills too.

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