Open 779: Pick Your Power X/Y Game Over!

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Farkset

Feels like alot of noise for early D1.

[Doctor Drew]

plot twist: doctor drew is a hydra of doctorpepper and drew-sta and also doctor drew

Dude, this was told to you in secret.

Also, you were in Big 4 Mafia, right Ald?

RE: My one post and vote.

I subscribe to the Titus school of D1 sucks and is only good as a tool to use on further Days. When I see someone so eagerly trying to act as 'town leader' so early in the Day that raises red flags, really seems forced when town leader is something that just happens, whether mechanically or through something like an IC. What Farken did was very LAMIST and imo not genuine. I probably should have used different vernacular than noise, but I was trying to make the point that they are saying alot with out really saying much.

Also, harkening back to my Titus D1 viewpoint, I tend to skim and get a sense of the flow vs over analyzing every post, didn't even notice there were at votes on Farken......but, why is Farken so worried about the lynch, are you at L-1? I won't even bring up the OMGUS vote on me(as I bring it up lol).

Also I figured Melody wasn't Hectic, Hectic wouldn't vote me here. If you are here though give me a sign, we both know I am cult recruiter and totally would recruit you tonight haha.

[Doctor Drew]

I will ISO them in a bit, like I said I have only skimmed so far.

[Doctor Drew]

Dunn seems to be overthinking the cop claim a bit(ftr, I don't love the timing of the claim but I want to let it breath a bit), but I do think Don is twisting Dunn's words and assuming his intentions a bit. I lean town on Dunn. And since I mentioned them, null to slight scum on Don, but as I said I want the claim to breath a bit before I am moved one way or another.

[Doctor Drew]

Skitter seems keen on setup discussion(I guess in a game like this it isn't the worst idea, but in my experience too much setup talk in place of actually scum hunting brings back negative returns). I don't think that is a scum tell though so lean/gut town on her.

Farkset, I still don't know what your back and forth from about 94 to 108 was all about, felt like you were trying to bait her into something.

Also you never answered, how many votes were on you when I voted you?

[Doctor Drew]

Being vocal does not equal 'trying to be town leader.

I said I wasn't counting votes and skimming because I wasn't counting votes and skimming. Your posts stuck out the most and I felt that at the very least I should at least kick the tires on you. Now you are being so worried about being lynched, and I see that you(and I btw) are only at L-5!

You are poking and prodding, giving the illusion of doing stuff and scum hunting, most of the rest of the players really haven't done much either but at least they aren't pretending to do stuff.

Basically, I don't get a genuine vibe from you. It is all topped off with your OMGUS vote on me which now as the competing wagon(which neither is really a wagon) you are doubling down on.

[Doctor Drew]

Being vocal does not equal 'trying to be town leader.

I said I wasn't counting votes and skimming because I wasn't counting votes and skimming. Your posts stuck out the most and I felt that at the very least I should at least kick the tires on you. Now you are being so worried about being lynched, and I see that you(and I btw) are only at L-5!

where do you get the idea that Farkset is worried about being lynched from?

~Evening

The fact they said how I 'jumped on the biggest wagon', when three votes is hardly a wagon.

You don't think their tone turned defensive?

[Doctor Drew]

Ego post.

Give me a few hours to catch up

I can't allow another Doctor here.

State your case or I end you.

[Doctor Drew]

Just a quick check in, should have stated I had to work all day today and gotta be back early tomorrow so I am LA until the afternoon/evening EST tomorrow.

I will say though that I kind of agree with Melody and (begrudgingly) Fark about Alduskkel. Set up spec is basically null to me, this is to remind me to ISO Ald.

Also Melody, what did I miss about Dunn/Don that was a joke?

[Doctor Drew]

Something about Melody's defense of me and their meta of Skitter is just, off putting?

Funny, Fark was thinking Melody was trying to pocket them, and I get vibes that the same is happening with Skitter and I.

My scum read on Fark is starting to waiver

Pre Edit: And now Jackson??

[Doctor Drew]

Melody, I think it was brought up, but are you a secret Hydra?

[Doctor Drew]

Melody, I think it was brought up, but are you a secret Hydra?

...yes

~Dawn

Super duper.

Have both heads been posting consistently?

[Doctor Drew]

But its still possible that for the [1] pick, 1 scum decided to sacrifice themselves getting a PR, but fuck over 3 other town in the process. Like 1 for 3 seems pretty worth right?

they have no way of knowing that 3 townies would have picked 1 tho ...

Guys, starting to think this Skitter guy is town.

[Doctor Drew]

y that of all things ?

Tbf, been thinking you are town before that and just wanted to go for the callback joke where you had to correct someone that you were a she. Comedy!

But, you also were attempting to shut down a potentially confusing(and confusing possibly on purpose) direction that Alm was going. Seemed to serve a town purpose.

Melody, I think it was brought up, but are you a secret Hydra?

...yes

~Dawn

Super duper.

Have both heads been posting consistently?

Yeah, we've been signing as "Dawn" and "Evening". Why do you ask, doc?

~Dawn

Seemed to miss the evening posts, but that's on me.

And I ask because I have a theory, and no I won't divulge my theory quite yet.

But enough with the mystery, do you care to respond to the accusations from me, Jackson(and apologies if you already have,), Fark?

[Doctor Drew]

God, I find your tone so scummy, Drew :p
Might need to recheck your meta.

What accusations are you talking about? About pocketing? We're just being transparent about reads, there's not much else to it.

~Dawn

Myself, Jackson, and Fark have accused you of pocketing.....yet it doesn't appear you have responded directly to said accusations.

I guess you like to dance.

Again, I am going for 3p cult tone.....not scummy tone.

[Doctor Drew]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

Arsonist?

[Doctor Drew]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

Arsonist?

Nice "slip" there, Arsonist.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Arsonist

~Dawn

Oh shit, one of the few 3p roles I haven't been.......someone make a game with arsonist in it.

And you sure you were in a scum game with me?

[Doctor Drew]

Autobattler was fun, jester was a shit show, and the Boon game angered me so much I needed to take a break from the game.

Also, I got you.

[Doctor Drew]

Ah shit, was more LA then I had anticipated, sorry guys and gals.

I promise I will properly catch up tomorrow, but will somewhat be around tonight hopefully to at least check the last couple pages.

[Doctor Drew]

I really won't be super active before deadline but I read that Farken said something about lynchpools.

From early in the day, and a little I have skimmed since then I would not lynch Skitter or Melody.

I would lynch Ald, Fark, or Brass.

Alot if gut here.

I will go with wotc though, I certainly am in no state to lead a lynch.

[Doctor Drew]

Huh, Ald really wants everyone to be sure that he is top wagon.

VOTE: Ald

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Farkset

Feels like alot of noise for early D1.

this is a terrible opening vote and not even a funny RVS one. since when is making noise scum-indicative?

Something about Melody's defense of me and their meta of Skitter is just, off putting?

Funny, Fark was thinking Melody was trying to pocket them, and I get vibes that the same is happening with Skitter and I.

My scum read on Fark is starting to waiver

Pre Edit: And now Jackson??

your scumread is wavering? you haven't interacted with him

once

, no effort in trying to solve it. Just shotgun statements.

Huh, Ald really wants everyone to be sure that he is top wagon.

VOTE: Ald

and this is just… lyncheable

What do you mean I didn't interact with Fark? There was a lot of back and forth between us regarding my vote on them.

And I explained noise.

Did you read anything between my vote if Fark and my post saying my scum read was wavering? I know I am out if the loop on a few things but you must flat out have a case of amnesia.

And I believe it was Melody who brought it up, but explain the logic behind ScumDrew. My PT would have been filled with my buddies(buddy?) yelling at me to drop my case, and I never in a million would, as scum, make that as my first post. I am not a huge meta guy, but obviously no one has read a scum game if mine. Even taking me as a player out if the equation, it just doesn't logically make sense for scum to do that unless they are a complete noob.

Also, I hate explaining why I did something, but it obviously was a pressure vote (and I guess there was added pressure, didn't even realize they had a few votes already on them), and I double downed because I thought their reaction was defensive and survivirlistic, a combo that I always feel doesn't come from a town mindset.

And Fark, I am at L-4.......why in the holy hell do you want me to claim??

[Doctor Drew]

I actually thought about it a little more, I don't believe I would be ripe to be NK'd, assuming I am not lynched.

Neighborizer, thought I crumbed it pretty obviously early on.

[Doctor Drew]

Draft Order is as follows:

1. JacksonVirgo 4
2. Brassherald - 5
3. Doctor Drew - 6

rly you pick it as 3rd? Do you have some sort of love for talking in PTs?
~ker

I actually do like to have a PT, and I have been cult recruiter before as well and I enjoy the power of picking who I want to be in the PT. Plus I like the ability of having a one on one convo with someone to help read them.

And I also thought it is best to keep it out of the hands of scum, that would give them the ability for extra manipulation.

[Doctor Drew]

And I believe it was Melody who brought it up, but explain the logic behind ScumDrew.

this line ^
actually reading it again it could be svt also, with him being the t

either way scum don't pick neighborizer in the third slot and he claimed too easily to be scum lying about with slot he tried for imo

I just want to make sure I am hearing you correctly, because I am certain I am very familiar with at least one of the Melody heads, you think they are manipulating me?

The thought did cross my mind a smidge.

[Doctor Drew]

Melody hit the nail on the head. Neighborizer is probably my favorite townie role, plus I am usually not very good with doctor/cop/vig.

This is a game, I want to have fun so I wanted to make sure that, in a game were we can pick our role, I pick the one I can have the most fun with and an added benefit that I stay away from roles I am not so good out.

Also I figured Melody wasn't Hectic, Hectic wouldn't vote me here. If you are here though give me a sign, we both know I am cult recruiter and totally would recruit you tonight haha.

If Hectic is in the game he would appreciate the reference since he knows how often I have been cult recruiter, and the neighborizer 'recruits' at night as well.

No way I am saying who I am neighboring, and haven't really decided tbh.

[Doctor Drew]

Honestly, would have considered neighborizer. But probably would have went with 1 shot vig or role cop.

[Doctor Drew]

I mean it's still drew, aldus or ico for me. I have spoken ar length about all of them, and i have gone through my townleans and reasons for them.

If you want to pick outside of this pool i cannot compromise with it.

Wagons can happen without me, i don't know how i can contribute more today

-Farkran

Don't you thinks is valuable for me to hood someone?

There is basically two scenarios:

1. I am town and I recruit Player X. We feel each other, poke and prod, and then hopefully get a better understanding of our alignment one way or another. Also would confirm my role, but of course that isn't AI.

2. I am scum and I recruit Townie Y(can a scum neighborizer hood a scum buddy?). Yes I can try and manipulate them, but I would be in big danger of being exposed (and going back to your question on what role I would choose as scum, this would be a big reason I would have shyed away from this role).

[Doctor Drew]

Why is there so much talk of figuring out partners when we can barely even get a consensus on a lynch?

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry.

@Mod

Can you just make me v/la on weekends going forward?

Noted. I was going to let it slide a bit and not going to mark it official cause holiday.

Really don't have time for a real catch up before deadline,

Gonna just sheep who I believe to be the strongest player, and back it up with a hunch.

VOTE: Melody

[Doctor Drew]

Melody, it does pain me to vote you, but Skitter made some good points about you white knighting me.

You have my word that if you flip town I will point and angry finger at Skitter.

Also, I am not blindly sheeping her.

[Doctor Drew]

You have my word that if you flip town I will point and angry finger at Skitter.

What if that's not helpful?

Not sure I fully understand what you mean by this.

But, I was mostly just being playful.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew your the only suspected from previous day flipped town. Have you came up with anything new?
~ker

That's cute that you think I still don't have somewhat of a scum read on you.

And it was pretty clear I had a scum read on Ald, I made a bad choice to switch to Melody as I couldn't get it out of my head that they were pocketing me.

I also now have someone in my hood, so I should be able to get a better read on the(though I do believe they are probTown).

[Doctor Drew]

I counter claim cop

Who did you investigate?

[Doctor Drew]

I mean if scum couldn't pick neither doc nor cop, they need to lynch the cop now otherwise it's pretty much autoloss for them. A counterclaim from scum in bad position seems the logical choice if this is the case.

This sentence applies to DC. You guys allowed him the freedom to decide whether he was going to cc cop today or not.

Explain what you mean?

[Doctor Drew]

Ah...... I must have missed that.

[Doctor Drew]

Dunn seems to be overthinking the cop claim a bit(ftr, I don't love the timing of the claim but I want to let it breath a bit), but I do think Don is twisting Dunn's words and assuming his intentions a bit. I lean town on Dunn. And since I mentioned them, null to slight scum on Don, but as I said I want the claim to breath a bit before I am moved one way or another.

Oh lol, totally forgot about Don doing that(or more specifically, forgot that Don was the one doing it).

[Doctor Drew]

Ftr, leaning towards Dunn as being the cop.

[Doctor Drew]

Still could be PGO though?

[Doctor Drew]

Dr drew, who did you neighbourise?

Not divulging that info quite yet.

I guess you could say, I am pulling a Dunnstral.

I'll be here all week, remember to tip your waitress.

[Doctor Drew]

Dr drew, who did you neighbourise?

Not divulging that info quite yet.

I guess you could say, I am pulling a Dunnstral.

I'll be here all week, remember to tip your waitress.

Unless you're colluding with the person you do realize we can all just claim we weren't neighborized.

No, you can't all claim you weren't neighborized. And if the the person who was says they weren't, that is a scum claim.

What exactly are you insinuiting?

[Doctor Drew]

Dr drew, who did you neighbourise?

Not divulging that info quite yet.

I guess you could say, I am pulling a Dunnstral.

I'll be here all week, remember to tip your waitress.

Unless you're colluding with the person you do realize we can all just claim we weren't neighborized.

No, you can't all claim you weren't neighborized. And if the the person who was says they weren't, that is a scum claim.

What exactly are you insinuiting?

Meh, looking at it from a different perspective, I get what you are saying.

Skitter is in my hood.

Was gonna hood Melody, but changed last minute(also thought about Dunn, that could have been more useful lol).

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: JV

Gotta do something here, Skitter and I are in agreement about JV as well.

[Doctor Drew]

Of course I pick someone on v/la to hood.

Anyone wanna chat with me?

[Doctor Drew]

Possible, tbh though I would think they would have already covered that and been ready for it. Especially since, if it is a fake claim, DC had it ready to go from the start of the game.

Possible that he is caught scum and is ghosting the thread as to not give more info, but tough to figure that out with the relative lurkiness of the game.

Shorter answer........dunno.

[Doctor Drew]

I mean its plausible that he hard claimed cop to begin with to draw out a counter claim. When nobody CC"ed, he figured nobody picked cop and went with it.

Don't know shet if he doesn't post though

That kind of has been my thinking all along, and is why I lean toward Dunn actually being the cop.

But again, without DC around who the fuck knows.

Pre Edit: I have a hunch on who Dunn is gonna say he investigated.

[Doctor Drew]

DP and Dunn could be a team if Dunn is fake claiming.

[Doctor Drew]

So, DonC is scum right?

VOTE: DonC

[Doctor Drew]

Do you want him around for lylo?

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, it is funny because I think about how I switched off of Ald at the last minute, looks terrible.

I also can't help but notice that DonC is not on Ald, was he ever on Ald?

[Doctor Drew]

Quite possibly not, actually; let's lynch somebody else

You do know you are still voting DonC, right?

[Doctor Drew]

Quite possibly not, actually; let's lynch somebody else

You do know you are still voting DonC, right?

Moderator error. He's not.

I guess we all make mistakes.

[Doctor Drew]

Plus, if you strongly believe DonC did an anti town play and would reach lylo, shouldn't you want this resolved with a lynch?

^^This

[Doctor Drew]

Vote Count 2.05

Farkran (1)

- Doctor Pepper

JacksonVirgo (1)

- Cat Scratch Fever,

Dunnstral (1)

- Not_mafia,

datisi (1)

- DonCorleone,

DonCorleone (3)

- Iconeum, Doctor Drew

DoctorPepper (3)

- Skitter30, Datisi, Farkset

Not Voting (3) :

JacksonVirgo, Almidia, Dunnstral,

With 12 Alive, 7 Votes To Lynch.
Deadline is in: (expired on 2020-06-03 10:00:00)

Is there someone else on DonC?

[Doctor Drew]

Plus, if you strongly believe DonC did an anti town play and would reach lylo, shouldn't you want this resolved with a lynch?

^^This

Skitter, bringing our hood chat out in the open.

I really think you should switch to DonC

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Lol, I really had a brain fart on the spelling of consensus in our hood.

[Doctor Drew]

ok, who ought i be voting instead?

@dp

...

I literally said Farkran

As a card carrying member of the 'Farkan May Be Scum' Club, I get you.

But I don't see that happening today, and we need a consensus.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm still confused if DonC's gambit could be a town move to draw out the NK or a scum move to draw out the cop.


Internally debating that both could be viable options

But he also drew out the, potentially, 'real cop'.

DonC is a policy lynch at worst.

Pre Edit: Why aren't you voting DonC, JV?

[Doctor Drew]

Why would I vote someone I don't believe to be scum?

DonC is a lylo wifom nightmare, and is his own doing. Fuck off telling me he had town motivation.

That's best case scenario.

More likely than not, scum who tried really hard to out a PR.

[Doctor Drew]

Why would I vote someone I don't believe to be scum?

DonC is a lylo wifom nightmare, and is his own doing. Fuck off telling me he had town motivation.

That's best case scenario.

More likely than not, scum who tried really hard to out a PR.

Except why. 1 for 1'ing like that is -ev as all heck.

-ev?

DonC got caught in a lie. When he was exposed he tried to spin it as Dunn was stupid for making his claim, pure deflection.

Also, notice how DonC has been barely posting? When scum is caught the smart move is to just ghost the game, don't give any extra info.

[Doctor Drew]

Yeah I’m neither jk or rb

[Doctor Drew]

You really think I'm scum after being the counterwagon to the lynched scum yesterday?

But.....you weren't the counter wagon?

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Nvm, I was only looking at the final VC.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Nvm, I was only looking at the final VC.

[Doctor Drew]

I dunno, his name literally said he isn't mafia. Not sure I am ok with this.

VOTE: not mafia

[Doctor Drew]

I think this is the first perfect town game(at least as far as lynched go) that I have ever played.

[Doctor Drew]

Ah, so Farken was vigged I gues.

[Doctor Drew]

Dr Pepper, you weren't even roleblocked

lol

[Doctor Drew]

Elmo, feel free to post my Hood's.

I learned that Skitter is very good at analytics.

Didn't have time to learn anything from CSF.

[Doctor Drew]

Elmo, feel free to post my Hood's.

I learned that Skitter is very good at analytics.

Didn't have time to learn anything from CSF.

I'll do it tomorrow. Along with the mafia threads.

I'm taking a break from everything. Work and the heat of summer are just taking all my energy.

I hear ya, was so fucking humid where I am today. Sucks all motivation out of you.

[Doctor Drew]

ignore the failed quotes.

Feels sad I never got to vig anyone ;(

Sucks not getting to use your PR.

Didn't mention it game, I don't think, but inn addition to loving the Neighborizer role I chose it because I generally suck at town PR's.

Also, I think it is a valuable town PR. I was able to definitely get a town read on Skitter, and we had good discussions about the state of the game.

[Doctor Drew]

Wow, good job, town. We need to rerun this but with hoopla in this time.

~Dawn

So you gonna reveal who this hydra is?

[Doctor Drew]

lowkey I was hoping DC died N1 so I get cop, but then he was scum

The most confident read I had was that DC was not cop, so when he doubled down on it, seemed clear he was scum.

[Doctor Drew]

Regardless, most people win on dayplay

I think the threats in this game, to my knowledge, are (skitter, farkset, drew, datisi) in roughly that order, and dunnstral could be there too if he’s playing hard

...who the hell is doncorleone?

I have a guess. I'll PM.

Ya I have been racking my brain figuring out who it is, apparently someone I always scum read lol.

Also, I appreciate calling me a threat.