Open 779: Pick Your Power X/Y Game Over!

[Melody]

Small scum impressions:Cats and Alim for reasons stated in 136 and 232.Drew's is more of a tone read. Want to let that one fester and mould before we get an accurate sample from it.

My Drew toneread hasn't changed. It's other stuff he did I found towny.

Basically, Drew, I find you're more confrontational and less jokey as town, while as scum you have this "afraid to step on any toes" vibe to you, and you're a lot more friendly in a way? This is based on my meta last I played with you which was a while ago.

~Dawn

[Melody]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

[Doctor Drew]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

Arsonist?

[Melody]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

Arsonist?

Nice "slip" there, Arsonist.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Arsonist

~Dawn

[Doctor Drew]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

Arsonist?

Nice "slip" there, Arsonist.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Arsonist

~Dawn

Oh shit, one of the few 3p roles I haven't been.......someone make a game with arsonist in it.

And you sure you were in a scum game with me?

[Melody]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

Arsonist?

Nice "slip" there, Arsonist.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Arsonist

~Dawn

Oh shit, one of the few 3p roles I haven't been.......someone make a game with arsonist in it.

And you sure you were in a scum game with me?

Okay, I just checked some old games and it's not as clear cut as what I said. I had town!you from that boon game in my head where you were going at Nancy aggressively. But I just had a look at autobattler and jester nightless and that doesn't fit what I said. Disregard and recruit away please.

~Dawn

[Doctor Drew]

Autobattler was fun, jester was a shit show, and the Boon game angered me so much I needed to take a break from the game.

Also, I got you.

[DoctorPepper]

Melody is more based on the vote to Drew

Sorry i missed this line

But i'd still like you to elaborate on your melody read. I think you are adjusting your reads to agreement bias, drpepper.

If you read 1 scum in farkset/melody, does it mean you see us as disaligned? Why is one scummier than the other? Why do you think the drew wagon is scumbased?

-Farkran

It really was the Drew vote. I feel like it's easy to pile on a vote like as scum

I think you could both be scum but it is early game



Oh fuck that's 8 pages to catch up on again

[DoctorPepper]

doctor pepper can you go through your thought process more on some of your posts? for instance, regarding me and Dunn, what do you think is the town motivation in doubting my claim? why do you think what I've been doing that makes it stuff scum wouldn't do? it feels like you're also trying to avoid really committing on things while giving the illusion of doing anything, more so than either fark or drew at this point

No I just skim a lot and I don't make a lot of hard reads or efforts to fully expound on them.

Town motivation for doubting your claim imo is not wanting a counter claim to come out or a redirect if we had a protective role.

I also think it's weird for scum to gambit this early if they weren't cop. Like it feels like a gambit to catch scum or to attract NKs as well. You're putting yourself out there in a way that scum wouldn't on day 1.

D1 is where a mislynch is most likely and scum want to keep low so you just going out there is why I think you're town

[DoctorPepper]

I also don't understand why people are saying Farkset is just busyworking..

VOTE: skitter

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I don't get the logic and I think this is a scummy entrance

[DoctorPepper]

So far I'm thinking scum can be in [Farkset, Melody]

Wanna add Skitter in just as gut. I feel like her contributions to the game are mostly set up driven and not scum hunting driven.

i kinda disagree with this assessment

In general I'm just not a fan of set up spec but I feel like your clarification to me kinda makes sense.

[DoctorPepper]

Liking Melody a lot more now for gut. Initially just thought it was the Drew vote. Maybe I just disagree with your reads, but it seems genuine.

Jackson seems genuine as well.

Turning around on Skitter.

Aldus and Dats seem town but I'm basing it off a previous game and their interactions seem similar.

So far I'm good on Fark but I can swing towards Alimdia

[alimdia]

I also don't understand why people are saying Farkset is just busyworking..

VOTE: skitter

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I don't get the logic and I think this is a scummy entrance

reason being that you don't get the logic???

[alimdia]

This sequence of Melody's posts seem off to me.

Melody, I asked for scumreads and you only gave townreads...?

We'll get to this in a bit.

~Dawn

Small scum impressions:
Cats and Alim for reasons stated in 136 and 232.

Drew's is more of a tone read. Want to let that one fester and mould before we get an accurate sample from it. Not sure what to make of him doubling down and defending his take on Fark. It could've been easy to back off given he said he was skimming, so that might actually be a little towny.

Dunn seems to be overthinking the cop claim a bit(ftr, I don't love the timing of the claim but I want to let it breath a bit), but I do think Don is twisting Dunn's words and assuming his intentions a bit. I lean town on Dunn. And since I mentioned them, null to slight scum on Don, but as I said I want the claim to breath a bit before I am moved one way or another.

Also, while, reISOing, I found this which might be towny as well. Surely one scum member in the PT would've pointed out it's obviously a joke, so this might be some towny ignorance.

Might need to find another vote.

~Dawn

'Might need to find another vote' after listing 2 scumreads.

After Dunn says he doesn't like Aldu...

VOTE: Alduskkel

Let's try it.

~Dawn

[alimdia]

y that of all things ?

Tbf, been thinking you are town before that and just wanted to go for the callback joke where you had to correct someone that you were a she. Comedy!

But, you also were attempting to shut down a potentially confusing(and confusing possibly on purpose) direction that Alm was going. Seemed to serve a town purpose.

I feel like skitter is 'shutting it down' because it is against her, I don't particularly see what's so confusing about it, in fact skitter brought it up first.
But I'll drop it now that its mentioned that scum rarely pick below '4' from previous games.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

How does your Arsonist tone compare to your 3p cult tone?

~Dawn

Arsonist?

Nice "slip" there, Arsonist.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Arsonist

~Dawn

Oh shit, one of the few 3p roles I haven't been.......someone make a game with arsonist in it.

And you sure you were in a scum game with me?

Im already making ideas in my head

[Farkset]

Multiposting as overnight catchup, starting here

Just a quick check in, should have stated I had to work all day today and gotta be back early tomorrow so I am LA until the afternoon/evening EST tomorrow.

I will say though that I kind of agree with Melody and (begrudgingly) Fark about Alduskkel. Set up spec is basically null to me, this is to remind me to ISO Ald.

Also Melody, what did I miss about Dunn/Don that was a joke?

I officially invite you to vote alduskel with us

-Farkran

[Farkset]

i'm not vibing the aldu votes really, i don't get why they're a thing

VOTE: almidia

Why do you disagree?

i just like don't get it, idk
he feels similar to neon mafia
i don't know why he's being scumread; or more accurately, i'm not sure he's getting scumread for anything more than playstyle/personality traits

Please talk to me more about aldusk, why do you think that the suspicion around him is personality based?

Or to be more specific, what's there to read him as anything above null now? Did you iso him in this game or do you have just a metabased weak read?

-Farkran

[Farkset]

I think Skitt/Melody are partners
I have more reason to vote Melody because of their weird posts regarding my entrance and skitt is just gut as of right now and their posts have just been pinging me as anti-town in a reverse psycho kinda way I can't put my finger on it so I'll land my vote there.
VOTE: Melody

Which weird posts?

Do you agree with the general sentiment that melody has a pockety tone, or are your reasons something completely different?

Personally, i'm wary of the pockety tone, but otherwise nothing that Melody has done sounds scummy to me, so i'm fine with assessing that post-flip. If you disagree, i'd like to know why.

-Farkran

[Farkset]

i'm not vibing the aldu votes really, i don't get why they're a thing

VOTE: almidia

he's just voting me cos I caught him

I see Skitter as scum tbf, I'll post my replies to posts soon.

thanks bro

a) i'm a she
b) no, that's not why i'm voting you, it's cuz your reasoning is bad, and when it was pointed out that it was bad, you just shrugged it off and didn't reasses anything

What reasoning is bad, and why is that scummy? I don't know what you're referring to - the only valid options would be 192+213 and i'd like to hear more about why they are scummy when scum!almi could have joined any other general consensus read instead of headbutting into you. This does not townlock almidia but i don't see how it would place him below null either

Your only mention of almidia is post 257 and it sounds like you voted there to scratch an itch rather than scumreading almidia for something he has done - if i misinterpreted, please clarify your position.

-Farkran

[Farkset]

I also don't understand why people are saying Farkset is just busyworking..

VOTE: skitter

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I don't get the logic and I think this is a scummy entrance

Why? See my previous post for reference

-Farkran

[brassherald]

I'll share my perspective.
If I think theres a high chance of scum in [2], and I'm town, and theres 2 other people that picked [2]. I should vote one of them

Can you share how you eliminated the other person for consideration?

[JacksonVirgo]

Isn't lynching based of setup analysis generally a bad thing over somewhat who is scummy or someone of which has the most associations?

[brassherald]

Isn't lynching based of setup analysis generally a bad thing over somewhat who is scummy or someone of which has the most associations?

It depends on who you ask. For now I'll leave it at that until I get an answer.

[Datisi]

@alimdia re 338, wasn't the "need to find another vote" saying they want to vote someone besides Drew?

@jackson, do you still think Melody is pocketing you even after they explained their thought process?

VOTE: clemency