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[April Ludgate]

Can I ask why you think my role could be scum? Because I know it's obvious to me but not to you guys.

It’s the fact you keep bringing that up, when claim wise, we all have something that proves they’re town. One of you guys are abusing it.

[April Ludgate]

If I was scum I basically got my own partner lynched and missed a chance to take out either the biggest townread in the game or the claimed cop. I can't really say my scumhunting was god tier, but I did want Chemist dead for days.
pedit: How was I trying to pocket you? Can I have some examples

It’s the way you talk to me. Everyone was treating me like a town read, and after Mastina went down, I really couldn’t grasp the game anymore because everyone was pushing me as town, and I couldn’t figure out which of you guys were just doing it to fit in the status quo.

This also makes sense for scum to have been doing early because Mastina was hard pushing me, and Chemist was backing her up.

[April Ludgate]

So scum have a roleblocker. I'm not gonna be voting April anytime soon. I should relook at my townreads soon. Still feel weird about Bird/Chem interactions.

Holden/April/Farside/Penguin=town I think I wanna vote in Dunnstral/Bird/Chem today. Unless all my townreads go on Mastina than I'd join.

Pretty much yeah. Sloppy modding on his part to be honest but hey! Free conftown, I'll take it!

Pretty sure this makes mastina 100% scum.

This was the last time Bingle posted. (This is 1702, he also posted 1703) that was it.

I agreed with what Bingle was saying here, and both Bingle and I were saying Mistanna was scum at this time.

Bingle is the much more dangerous mechanical player, which is harder for Mistyanna to play against.

This made Bingle the most dangerous theeat against Mastina.

VOTE: Mastina

This all happens on like one page, and this is where I started to get paranoid. It felt like you were politically positioning yourself against Mastina in regards to me because I was hard pushing her.

And it’s kind of been like that ever since

[April Ludgate]

PASSIVE -- King: You are not a player in this game and will not appear in flip lists. You only exist to establish all players have access to a sample town PM.

If only such a power existed.

You all failed RVS protocol and thus, the only valid course of action is to kill you one by one in order of your committed sin

VOTE: votato

Went to ISO Holden, and this was his first post. :/

[April Ludgate]

Its that thingy from Ice age

Scatch I think?

Why aren't you

Claiming

?

~Cosmic

I live dangerously. L-1 or bust baby

ok bet
VOTE: HoldenGolden

L-1

-bitmap

Oh well this was quick. I didn't even get to use my gun

Ugh, this happened when he was L-1, and he used this as a crumb, i believe

[April Ludgate]

Be fully here in 30 or so mins.

Half tempted to use my 100%* Towntell

Alright, i should be done with ISO’ing you by then.

[April Ludgate]

Fair enough april.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: mastina that lightmode hurts my sensitive eyes

votato conf scum based on how long this wagon is taking to form.

-bitmap

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Votato

Roooooooooom
1 shot drunk bus driver reporting in for duty

Give case for Votatown

-Calvin

I think the fact he took a harder stance against claiming is more likely to come from a townie perspective. Ironically, I think scum would pull more what I did in the face of it.

UNVOTE:

[April Ludgate]

Votato's lack of understanding it makes me feel it could be a fakeclaim, although even fakeclaims must be full role PMs, right?

-Calvin

It depends. I dont think Janitor/watcher/doctor is a very self explanatory role in its functionality. Moreover, it seems votato didnt get a description of what a janitor is since he admitted somewhere to searching the wiki for info on it.

Its undermined my eariler assumption that his stubbornness to claim is townie.

Hmm, if HoldenScum, this mixed in with Mastina saying she would never let Votato claim that implies Votato went rogue on scum.

[April Ludgate]

[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=11783874#p11783874]post 855[/url], HoldenGolden"][quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=11783144#p11783144]post 825[/url], April Ludgate"]The lowest tier is the best because I can be shit, and rise, and have it look super good. From the top, only way you can go is down.[/quote]
[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=11783866#p11783866]post 853[/url], PenguinPower"]And the fact that he is ignoring this makes [b]me want to tunnel him until he is wiped from this game completely....not just lynched...wiped out from existing in this game.[/b][/quote]
Why the extreme response? Lynched = died unless there is a way to revive him? Which is pointless if he is scum.

Do you think then his stubbornness to claim was him buying time to figure out a fakeclaim?[/quote]
[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=11783879#p11783879]post 856[/url], HoldenGolden"]Gah forever scum April somehow sneaked her post into that one[/quote]
[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=11783921#p11783921]post 868[/url], HoldenGolden"][quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=11783905#p11783905]post 864[/url], PenguinPower"]Wow, good question.[/quote]
Dont shrug it off you naughty penguin

That information where votato read a wiki was already in the thread for a bit. You quoted that post from votato eariler to dunn for the first half, meaning you at least read half of it. I dont know why it took me having to bring it up for you to announce your death tunnel.

852 feels like forced reaction to me because of it. You already seemingly knew what krazy posted about scums fakeclaims given the way you worded the first paragraph, making the whole emoji bit afterwards off. The follow up "this man needs to die no matter what" adds to it more.[/quote]

He was defending Votato but not directly here, and then went after Penguin.

Also, I’m noticing an extreme tone difference in Holden in his early ISO.

[April Ludgate]

Welp, that happened

[April Ludgate]

That’s not the start of the game, is it?

That’s when Mastina was hard pushing me Day 3.

[April Ludgate]

That’s the day Jjh got lynched

[April Ludgate]

I have townreads on Farside, Penguin, Mastina, and Creature. If anyone disagrees with these feel free to chime in

I'm withholding a mastina townread until she talks to me.

Also, add April to your list.

What makes you townread April? I've kinda brushed past a lot of her posts due to early game assumptions but that's more my bad than anything else.

Oh is it because of her Janitor ability? I hope not.

That doesn't hurt, but no. The interactions with PP come across as open and unworried, she clearly doesn't give a shit about being in the middle of things, she's posting without an agenda AFAICT, and she's got a pretty solid mix of pushing the game forward and shitposting.

Oh is it because of her Janitor ability? I hope not.

That doesn't hurt, but no. The interactions with PP come across as open and unworried, she clearly doesn't give a shit about being in the middle of things, she's posting without an agenda AFAICT, and she's got a pretty solid mix of pushing the game forward and shitposting.

I have no reason to doubt you and that seems good enough to me so sure, I'll add her to my townreads.

I NEVER make that Bingle kill.

[April Ludgate]

I’m not scum

[April Ludgate]

Mastina and Chemist pushed me because I was pushing Mastina, and that was their strongest scum player.

[April Ludgate]

Well, votato/Chemist aren’t power players, and I’ve never seen you guys play scum before.

[April Ludgate]

Told you guys yesterday I was going to be mislynched in 3p. I feel it happening.

I have no clue which of you two are scum, and I’ve read this entire game about three times over.

[April Ludgate]

I still think it’s Clover, but I can’t really explain it better than I have.

[April Ludgate]

@Holden - It’s not me. If you’re scum, then good game, you played it correctly after I guiltied your partner.

[April Ludgate]

I think it’s Clover because yesterday Dunnstral made it clear he town read me in game thread, even when I was getting paranoid of him.

Clover was pushing Holden yesterday and I actively didn’t vote you, Holden. I said yesterday that I believe it was in Dunn and Clover.

Clover saw I was leaning him for multiple days now, and pushed me slightly each day while continuing to say he thinks I’m town.

He claimed Ninja after Birds and I had our thing, and i think it’s because they knew what Birds role was so they had to distance. I feel clover likely just has a bunch of roles, and can use multiple in one night.

[April Ludgate]

Holden at the moment I want you to know I was ready to vote you

Don’t vote him before he gets time to post more.

[April Ludgate]

Holden at the moment I want you to know I was ready to vote you

Don’t vote him before he gets time to post more.

That’s how you get people to panic, and rush vote. I don’t want to see you vote even right now because it’ll make me overthink.

I just want to play this out for a little bit.

[April Ludgate]

I also don’t want to be stuck in a literal cross vote scenario between you two. The second somebody votes the game ends or someone becomes conf town and has to choose. I am not ready to choose between you two, i need you guys to case me still so I can read through your thought processes.

[April Ludgate]

For what it’s worth, DEB/Creature we’re bodyguards that only worked on reptiles.

I’m the only other reptile.

[April Ludgate]

I don’t want to lose to “Donkey Sheriff” though

[April Ludgate]

No matter what happens, this was a fun game. Whichever of you are scum, don’t feel bad or anything about mislynching someone. I sense it in both of your posts, and I believe it’s genuine.

[April Ludgate]

If you’re town, dead threads probably screaming at how close we are to winning and losing at the same time

[April Ludgate]

The second I start to think Clover is town, I start to get paranoid that’s why he’s doing it.

[April Ludgate]

I really don’t want to end up voting Holden and lose to Clover if I was in the right to be paranoid.

[April Ludgate]

Holden, what are you doing in the ISO’s?

[April Ludgate]

VOTE: Birds and Boys

This is the

Turning Point

of the Birds and Boys wagon. It is looking more and more likely that this lynch will go through, so votes following this one should be looked at under a bus driver's magnifying glass.

VOTE: votato

I shall now bolster a counterwagon to see if any scum take the

Bait

.

-Cosmic

We have a synonym of VCA, the means to an end, what shall this disgust be?

This game is but a baby, and you’re studying a baby’s mile time to improve your dreadful lap speed.

You shall be shamed!

Execution!

Statements like this must be verified scientifically, lucky for you I am willing to help.

Let Smallfoot = the average speed a baby can run/walk in a hour. Let Dm be the average amount a baby can walk per day in the US measuring system in miles. Now, according to this 100% scientifically assured source babies walk around 2 and a half miles per day.

Smallfoot thus equals

Smallfoot=2.5/24 ->

Smallfoot = ~.1 miles per hour

Thus let us compare this to if Comic is to run a mile lap.

We know that comic is referring to the umberon and according to pokedex entries it is a known fact that, for every point of speed stat, a pokemon moves at 15.196mph.Therefore, by inspection alone, this number is larger and therefore Comic can easily already out run a baby in a mile lap. But let's see just how bad a gap it is:

Umberon's speed stat is 65, therefore

65 * 15.196mph = 987.74 mph

As such, by diving the rate comic runs by the variable smallfoot, we get the answer that Comic can perform ~9877 mile laps before the baby can finish one.

Conclusion:

Due to your reckless abandonment to verify your statement, you have made a terribly incorrect assumption about comic's physical capabilities. This clear misrep, although clever, is certainly only from the PoV of scum trying to push a mislynch onto Comic.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: April Ludgate

math use correlates to scum btw, Holden.

It's been scientifically proven.

You haven't provided a source to verify this claim.

I suggest we lynch April -> PP for multiple infractions of RVS

Early early Conspire votes Votato, but then Holden starts going after myself and Penguin, possible distraction?

[April Ludgate]

I don’t like that Holden said we’re both using our claims as an excuse for townie points.

I don’t believe I have done that even once this game?

[April Ludgate]

Our have to expect my entire team to just be okay with me selfishly having them die rather than just stay alive, though.

The only mislynch I’ve been on was Dunnstral.

[April Ludgate]

You’d*

[April Ludgate]

I think I’m gonna go Holden...

[April Ludgate]

This is going against Farside’s reads, and with Dunn’s.

[April Ludgate]

Holden hasn’t really done anything to case himself, and I understand where Clover’s coming from, and Clover is showing paranoia, which I relate with.

I also feel like Holden is setting up a push on me, where you’ve been trying to persuade me you’re not scum

[April Ludgate]

You should let Holden finish his iso read regardless

You’d have to vote for that to be a thing anyways, and I’ve aalready stated that we should wait for Holden.

[April Ludgate]

I don’t know why when I’m literally the one who said to wait for Holden to do his ISO, Clover is somehow the one that gets it.

[April Ludgate]

Holden at the moment I want you to know I was ready to vote you

Don’t vote him before he gets time to post more.

[April Ludgate]

I just really want to town read one of you correctly rather than scum read one of you correctly.

[April Ludgate]

I’m eating pizza.

[April Ludgate]

That was a good pizza. I’m still here

[April Ludgate]

Probably not for too much longer, though.

[April Ludgate]

Are you just commenting on every single post? I can sum up the majority of the scummy things I’ve done this game.

Most of which was my Day 1 with Votato, something that you ended up saying you understood it.

I’m aware of the scum case there is to be made on me, but I assure you, I am not scum.

[April Ludgate]

He’s putting together a scum case on me, I felt that was pretty obvious from a while back.

He started pocketing you more this day phase with little posts like “see clover gets it” and “I’ll try to iso Clover to even with my bias”.

But I was the one that mentioned waiting for him in the first place.

[April Ludgate]

He’s just going through every single one of my posts and tying together a narrative for me.

[April Ludgate]

Can I at least finish my ISO post on you so that I can feel sorta smart before losing the game?

This is retorical. You will give me time because I am a sith lord, and the rule of two demands that the master doesn't kill the appretice unless provoked. Unless you want to admit I am the master in our sith relationship.

Either way ego win in the vain of losing if I am to be voted

pedit: See clover gets it.

I feel this post is him ready to go for a final push as scum because he understands the position he’s in.

The Sith stuff came up earlier in the game.

[April Ludgate]

VOTE: Holden

Serious vote, thanks to something that clicked once Birdies said so.

As Emperor of this here Candyland, I’ve been testing your abilities to cognitive deduction.

I think most of you failed, however, I am not positive in this.

Only scum show their work.

I just make grand entrances and dramatize the moment when necessary!

[April Ludgate]

Is it bad I'm more excited to see what kind of animals everyone picked? I can't have anyone VOTE: Conspire against me. Get it?

hi Clover!

~fire

Hi fire! It's good to see you again. Did you like my pun? I thought it was pretty great.

it was puntific

Only scum show their work.

I just make grand entrances and dramatize the moment when necessary!

only scum deal in absolutes

~fire

You’re mistaken this with Siths, and I am for sure a Sith, but I am not scum.

Oh, it wasn’t Holden who brought it up earlier, it was Birds.

I stand by this sentiment.

I am a Sith, that is for sure, but I am NOT scum!

[April Ludgate]

It has to be a scum case on me. He has no other option if he’s scum here.

[April Ludgate]

I was waiting for it. I knew for a fact that scum were going to have to flip on me in final 3 or face a 50/50.

[April Ludgate]

@Holden - I’m becoming that submit early comment, because I’m not going to be able to be here much longer

[April Ludgate]

Envoking*

[April Ludgate]

Actually, please let it be a scum case. If he fucking town cases me, I’m leaving and we’re doing this some other time

[April Ludgate]

That’s a lot of Information instead of analysis, so it’s a lot fluffier, but there is some actual analysis.

Idk what I think of any of it, though.

[April Ludgate]

See, he scum cased me, huh

[April Ludgate]

Post it here so i can give ya the ol one two! I will fight if you’re gonna try and take me down.

[April Ludgate]

Post it anyways!

[April Ludgate]

I don’t get the reaction test.

What would having another secret case on me do?

[April Ludgate]

HOW DOES ANY OF THIS HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHICH OF YOU IS SCUM

Lol

[April Ludgate]

There was a Commuter Cop without a commuter.

This setup is interesting.

[April Ludgate]

I think I’m going to go Holden


That’s what I’m thinking. You’re a flavor changer, commuter, roleblocker and you guys gambited with Votato because you knew you were safe from a potential actual Vig because Mastina was a Doctor.

[April Ludgate]

I think I’m going to go Holden


That’s what I’m thinking. You’re a flavor changer, commuter, roleblocker and you guys gambited with Votato because you knew you were safe from a potential actual Vig because Mastina was a Doctor.

So now you are saying there is a commuter after just saying there wasn't any?

Either the commuter cop is there as a red herring, you lied about your role, or Clover also has a Commuting ability.

If Clover is scum, they 100% are like a Dreaming God role or something.

[April Ludgate]

Role that doesn’t know what their roles do, but they choose what they use.

It’s probably not that, but something like that

If you’re scum, I expect you to have more abilities than you stated, which fits in with what’s gone on

[April Ludgate]

Scum’s just waiting for me to make a move

[April Ludgate]

Are we done for today?

[April Ludgate]

VOTE: Holden

[April Ludgate]

UNVOTE: Holden

[April Ludgate]

good morning

[April Ludgate]

i'll be around soon. making breakfast.

[April Ludgate]

I feel like I had one of the strongest content this game, to be fair, Clover.

[April Ludgate]

Clover, your role does make sense to be a scum role.

I've also been making it obvious that I was leaning Holden lately, so I don't necessarily like the "woe is me, i dont beat you" attitude, but im chopping fruit right now, so i'm not paying attention too much.

[April Ludgate]

i'm here, but I'm not here. i'm probably not voting for a little while, tbh.

[April Ludgate]

Here.

[April Ludgate]

well, Holden?

[April Ludgate]

VOTE: Clover

[April Ludgate]

Did we win?

[April Ludgate]

If Clover is vengeful, FML.

[April Ludgate]

No you won. Well played Faking that invest on birds wasn't something I expected.

I roleblocked him, but it got moved to Dunnstral.

[April Ludgate]

Expect I'm strongarm 2 shot vig

The game is a draw

I reach wincon on parity. ;P

[April Ludgate]

this was a stressful lylo.

[April Ludgate]

No you won. Well played Faking that invest on birds wasn't something I expected.

I roleblocked him, but it got moved to Dunnstral.

I switched bird with dunn which caused that issue.

I can't believe people voted dunn. Even without me saying I switched bird/dunn he had the PT. He was talking to people and knew about bird.
ugh

I spent the majority of the day phase he was lynched, and even the day phase prior to that setting that up pretty well, I feel. Plus, he did have a direct line to Chemist.

[April Ludgate]

I made every single kill.

[April Ludgate]

it was not easy, that can be said a thousand times.

I knew I had to kill Farside when I did too. Your reads were in a great spot to be set in stone at for me. I knew you were roleblocked because I blocked you.

[April Ludgate]

Was a fun game sorry if I made lylo a bit worse than it probably had to be

nah, that was one of the best lylo's I've seen.

[April Ludgate]

Was Auro part of Birds? I really didn't know who was. I eventually figured gobbledygook and Firebringer?

[April Ludgate]

I liked not making the call for it because it came off more natural

Oh. I thought you were calling everything throughout the game.

Nah, Mastina and I have a playstyle clash, but I think the combination of it works really well.

[April Ludgate]

Great game. One of my favorites, I think.

@PenguinPower - Was the thing you were laughing at the fact that I never bus?

I made it blatantly obvious to Penguin who I was Day 1, and I believe Bingle knew. Not sure if Conspire did, or who else. Miss Lynch probably figured it out.

[April Ludgate]

The thing I was most worried about was I tried really hard to get Birds lynched the day Mastina got lynched, but oplayed it off like an "Oh! We get Mastina instead! even better!" kinda attitude.

[April Ludgate]

Near the end there wasn't anyone who would know my little traits like the fact that I say "literally" a lot when making cases, stuff like that. Dunnstral would have been closest. I'm glad for the most part, I was able to stay stealthed through the game.

[April Ludgate]

I thought it was hilarious when Penguin and I did the "moo point" dialogue, and Bingle went "I feel like I've heard this before..."

Yeah, I like to think my alts are all different parts of my personality. Everything came pretty naturally to me, and wouldn't have been out of the ordinary for me to say in general.

But honestly, can I stop rolling scum.