Grand Idea GPick [Game Over]

Titus · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:06 am

In post 1395, Titus wrote:
In post 1324, Bingle wrote:Yes, roughly.

Given the confirmation of Titus' role we're in world A Ircher is lying about being loverized with a susp actor OR world B someone RB'd Titus. If the source of the RB becomes known, that is helpful. If the source of the RB doesn't become known and Irch flips town, we know a RB exists and is scum controlled, which is valuable because it puts another scum role outside of the pool of confirmed roles.

If Irch flips scum who was loverized with Quick, it kills Ircher, who is scum, and Quick, who is in a mechanical 1v1 with hb, solving hb without requiring us to gamble on a potentially game ending lynch.

Irch is independently scummy, and firmly in the lynch pool.

It's the literal definition of a win/win/win scenario.
This is why we should lynch Ircher Ico.

There you go Chemist.

Bingle · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:45 am

In post 1398, boring wrote:
In post 1360, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1359, boring wrote:That self-hammer looks fake from here, seeing as he posted after bingle's unvote. Either way, it reinforces the scumminess.
I'd like to wait for everyone to check in, but I'm even more comfortable with Ircher's lynch now.
Opinion on Bingle's unvote?
I took it at face-value. I think L-2 is enough, though. I think asking for further unvotes risks derailing the wagon.

I want L3 because I think both quick and irch are potentially going to join the wagon to stifle discussion.

ISO · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:53 am

VC 3.4Ircher (4) - Titus, boring, farside22, Doctor Drew [E-3]
Titus (4) - hellbooks, TrueSoulEnergy, Battle Mage, Iconeum [E-3]

Not voting: Chemist1422, Starbuck, Pigman, Chateau Lobby, Bingle, Ircher, ManateeDude

With 15 alive it takes

8

7

to eliminate.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2020-06-16 22:10:00) or when an elimination is reached.

Bingle · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:30 am

I just realized that I misunderstood the card role slightly, though not in a way that affects my handling of that role.

I had been assuming for some reason that a red card death would make all players with red cards hated, not publicly make all players publicly hated. I've been waiting to see if someone would claim the fact that it only takes 7 votes to lynch today, and it just now occurred to me to double check the wording of the PM farside linked.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to admit to this, but I feel dumb and wanted to share.

Chemist1422 · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:20 am

Did titus claim her card from last night

Titus · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:46 am

In post 1404, Chemist1422 wrote:Did titus claim her card from last night

I did. I was yellow. I am blue now.

Bingle · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:59 am

Da ba dee da ba die?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:51 pm

In post 1401, Bingle wrote:
In post 1398, boring wrote:
In post 1360, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1359, boring wrote:That self-hammer looks fake from here, seeing as he posted after bingle's unvote. Either way, it reinforces the scumminess.
I'd like to wait for everyone to check in, but I'm even more comfortable with Ircher's lynch now.
Opinion on Bingle's unvote?
I took it at face-value. I think L-2 is enough, though. I think asking for further unvotes risks derailing the wagon.
I want L3 because I think both quick and irch are potentially going to join the wagon to stifle discussion.

I am starting to think I just always have a bias for Bingle/Jingle/Bangle to be scum, I keep finding everything he is doing is scummy initially, then when I come back to I realize I was wrong.

Did I just finish a game with another alt of yours?

Bingle · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:10 pm

Bingle is my only alt playing mafia. I know you played at least one game with mordhaus, but that’s a hydra I have with [redacted] and it was also quite a while ago. I was also in the secret alt dance game. That accounts for more than a year, I think.

I moderate using the Jingle account.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:15 pm

Ahh, you were Mordhaus? That was a fun game.

I only asked because I finished a game with an alt who says I always scum read them.

Anywho, I am a bit stuck in this game, like I can't get a good solid read here and I don't know to get out of this funk here, maybe I need to read up a bit.

Starbuck · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:01 pm

Sorry for being so quiet, just wrapping my mind around stuff. There's so much going on.

ISO · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:05 pm

Take your time, Starbuck. Take your time.

farside22 · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:05 pm

In post 1410, Starbuck wrote:Sorry for being so quiet, just wrapping my mind around stuff. There's so much going on.

It's okay, we know your 3p. Just relax and enjoy the show.
Are you in a PT with Ircher today?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:15 pm

In post 1412, farside22 wrote:
In post 1410, Starbuck wrote:Sorry for being so quiet, just wrapping my mind around stuff. There's so much going on.
It's okay, we know your 3p. Just relax and enjoy the show.
Are you in a PT with Ircher today?

Tbf to her, as someone with lots of 3p experience, it can be a bit daunting and tough to figure out the correct strategy......especially in a bastardy game.

Also, sorry to ask, but did I see you want to lynch me?

ISO · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:24 pm

Pigman has been prodded.

Pigman · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:29 pm

In post 1414, TemporalLich wrote:
Pigman has been prodded.

I am here!! Jeeez. There’s so many new pages. I was literally reading while you prodding me

Ok I agree with ico re if scum Titus loverizes why then does she not kill them for the twofer? I think this speaks to her being town.

I need some explanation for ircher though because he’s been a stronger town read of mine as well since early and I must have missed something if no one else is seeing that too.

Pigman · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:30 pm

I would lynch bungle probably

Pigman · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:32 pm

In post 964, Bingle wrote:Aight, a few things:

Ircher, please support the idea that we shouldn't claim cards.

We have a confirmable scum role. Any player who has a confirmable portion of a role (i.e. Ascetic, Fruit Vendor, Innocent Child, Vig, Watcher, etc) should claim that they have a confirmable role. (Note, that they have the ability to confirm their role, not which role they have.)

We should 100% massclaim card color, because that shit is abusable.

I was a yellow card yesterday and am currently a blue card.

Mainly for this. I disagree strongly. It is abusable BY MAFIA. It seems to me how madly he’s pushing this idea is just a trap

Pigman · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:38 pm

I like Titus, ircher, farside, hoctac, TSE. Probably ico too.

I dislike quick, boring, bingle

The rest I have no idea and am reading more to get a better handle on it rn. But this needs to go. I don’t like being pressured to give up info that only benefits mafia and he seems like he’s really trying to control everyone into voting his way. That just doesn’t seem genuine to me.

VOTE: bingle

Doctor Drew · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:48 pm

In post 1418, Pigman wrote:I like Titus, ircher, farside, hoctac, TSE. Probably ico too.

I dislike quick, boring, bingle

The rest I have no idea and am reading more to get a better handle on it rn. But this needs to go. I don’t like being pressured to give up info that only benefits mafia and he seems like he’s really trying to control everyone into voting his way. That just doesn’t seem genuine to me.

VOTE: bingle

Hoctac is dead....

*cries*

ISO · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:49 pm

I would love to do Bingle, but there's not enough interest.

Also, consider me on the Titus wagon. I was voting earlier, but unvoted, and I haven't felt compelled to rejoin the wagon immediately.

boring · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:05 pm

Can someone not liking Bingle explain why they don't like Bingle? Because I think I'd trust him with my firstborn child right now. (Drew, TItus, and Farside with my second through fourth... I went for quantity over quality with my family planning).

Doctor Drew · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:07 pm

Awww, you would trust me with your secondborn child?

I mean probably not smart, but....

Awww

ISO · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:13 pm

Main thing would be the way Bingle's pushing the card claiming. It's not a great strategy; it's a huge waste of space, time, and effort; and it gives him a way to look busy without actually doing much. His primary scumread is on me because Bingle subscribes to the theory that anyone who thinks Bingle's ideas with regards to the cards is wrong is scum trying to keep town from abusing it when in reality, it's not really abusable at all, and most of the effects directly benefit scum anyway.

boring · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:18 pm

In post 1423, Ircher wrote:Main thing would be the way Bingle's pushing the card claiming. It's not a great strategy; it's a huge waste of space, time, and effort; and it gives him a way to look busy without actually doing much. His primary scumread is on me because Bingle subscribes to the theory that anyone who thinks Bingle's ideas with regards to the cards is wrong is scum trying to keep town from abusing it when in reality, it's not really abusable at all, and most of the effects directly benefit scum anyway.

Okay. I think I'm grasping your train of thought. How is this very different from your D1 claim that we should share our page numbers?
And what exactly does "abusable by town" mean?