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I mean what people do is different to what people should do and I see no problem making it easier to see who people were ostensibly scumreading?In post 1320, Something_Smart wrote:
Or people could just read the game instead of using VC's as a crutch?In post 1275, Menalque wrote:Also — yes, we should still lynch gobbles, but you should change your vote temporarily to where you think groupscum is to make it easier to track where people thought scum was on D1 in retrospect when people look back at ofhrz’s ISO and the VCs"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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I assume he's using probability.In post 1293, skitter30 wrote:i'm not super comfortable removing those setups until/unless we have further information that shows why this would be highly unlikely
I would dismiss seven T's (0.8%) but not one T (5.5%).It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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No they can't?In post 1299, Pink Ball wrote:Scum has more info about the setup so they could know that SK is a safe claim.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Let me know when you’re about to lynch me so I can give final readsStation 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020-
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i think i'm coming around to town!menaShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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gobbledygook Jack of All Trades
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You guys should still use this day as if I never outted.
Skitter, I’m not answering BP or Ninja question. Why does that matter?Station 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020-
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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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This sounds like empty rhetoric to me.In post 1322, Menalque wrote:No, then we’re weaker because we’re getting further away from outnumbering the scum and he gets to coast another day because people want to try and flip their scumreads.
You're talking about him surviving another day as if it's automatically a bad thing. Is it? If we compare lynching him tomorrow to lynching him today, the only difference is that an extra player dies overnight. If that player is > rand scum, then it's good; otherwise, it's bad.
Then, if he killed scum, we can leave him alive one more day to put us back on odds without worrying about losing majority. If he killed town, we might have to lynch him-- and this gives him a powerful incentive to play along and try to hit his strongest scumread.
If you assume that his reads are better than random, there is at the very least a reasonable argument for leaving him alive.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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This was me claiming the Hider exists which was an ambiguous double crumb as to whether I was claiming hider or commuter.In post 334, Bingle wrote:
:eyebrow:In post 253, gobbledygook wrote:I don’t like the idea of commuters claiming to confirm the hider exists.
I also think that Bingle scumreading FB but not voting FB is suss. Especially when he’s voting your lolwagon.
I'd expect you of all people to remember that I never argue theory I don't think is protown, regardless of my alignment. It's kind of my whole gimmick.
I also hard disagree with characterizing Mena's wagon as a lolwagon, and am in fact scumreading Mena. I assumed that was obvious when I voted him in a reads post.Station 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020-
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I townside whenever I am not scum but not town, for the record. I have two games to prove that.Station 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020-
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man i really think ss is scum hereShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Why wouldn’t he take the guaranteed not group scum flip and just kill me here if he was group scum?Station 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020-
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if he thinks you'll shoot town he gets another person closer to lylo without having to do anythingShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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And anyone who wants to lynch him might be scum who thinks he'll shoot scum or take out a future mislynch. What's your point?In post 1338, skitter30 wrote:if he thinks you'll shoot town he gets another person closer to lylo without having to do anythingIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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this is gonna be a mess, i thinkShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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This skitter reminds me of the skitter in Menalque’s favorite places and I think shes townStation 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020-
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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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For the record, Occam's razor says this is town-you who actually has to read me for the first time, rather than scum-you specifically attempting to pocket me by tunneling me. (Which is something lilith has done, but it's still an unusual tactic.)It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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That post was @skitter if it wasn't clearIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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me tooIn post 1341, gobbledygook wrote:This skitter reminds me of the skitter in Menalque’s favorite places and I think shes townShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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no that's a bad voteShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Mena already told me, thanks SSIn post 1329, Something_Smart wrote:
No they can't?In post 1299, Pink Ball wrote:Scum has more info about the setup so they could know that SK is a safe claim.-
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But you’re... the SK? You literally have the wincon of killing every single town player in the game and given that you’re outed helping scum is not the way to do that because it just means we get to killing you fasterIn post 1335, gobbledygook wrote:I townside whenever I am not scum but not town, for the record. I have two games to prove that.
Like let’s say we lynch scum today, vig one tonight and you kill the other one
What do you think happens tomorrow?"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."
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