Ok, but if both Porkens and I were town yesterday, do you think that makes scum!Drew very likely? Or are you more inclined to believe that scum preferred not to touch his wagon and pivoted for votato due to undisclosed reasons?
Scum!TSE bussing Scum!Drew happens if Oromis or Mohab is the convert, what would make CL!TSE possible. I believe that my metaread on DkKoba (Oromis) is influenced by the fact that I only played with Town!DkKoba, but never with Scum!DKkoba, which may make it questionable if his tone today is an emulation within of the theory above. But the problem is that he's pushing Porkens and not Drew, who should be scum-lynch in this context, so they could recruit me or you the next day (assuming I'm correct about you).
So Oromis converted with TSE + Drew doesn't make sense with Oromis pushing Porkens and those three votes together when D2 started, unless Mohab is the convert here. Porkens doesn't make sense as convert either considering the options of Deimos/Oromis/Norwegian.
I'm ignoring Mohab in possible partnerships, and apparently everyone is doing the same, but his position on Drew makes sense if TSE and Drew are together with CL!TSE.
Ok thanks, clidd. I like this analysis.
Since CL!TSE is
only
possible with scum!Oromis (because of the track result), we can rule out Drew being the third partner because it doesn't make sense for Oromis to push town!Porkens rather than scum!Drew who would then allow a favourable convert the next night.
(scum!TSE ^ CL!Drew) <-> (TSE plays a white flag gambit by putting Drew L-1).
So if the two are scum it's only in this case, which is a probability that's a bit harder to evaluate. I'd rather set it aside for now and look for a different scumteam.
Nobody's contradicted my wagon analysis so I'm still working under town!Porkens -> scum!Drew, though for the rest of you the inference is (town!Porkens ^ town!Deimos) -> scum!Drew. And these are D1 alignments I refer to, ftr.
At the moment, I'm in doubt about Mohab. I would like to see his views on the issues raised today. I feel that his entry at the beginning of D2 was more expressive in the sense of resolving will, as if suddenly the interest in joining the game had increased, compared to the more relaxed posture in D1. I am also surprised by the lack of significant paranoia about my slot, considering that in our past game I was scum. Another point that bothers me is that nobody is paying attention to this slot, and I want to be able to distinguish it before moving on.
In post 650, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Otherwise, i suggest you take a step back and look at Oromis and TSE interactions. I think there’s something to consider about that and their weird attack on Porkens just for hammering a wagon.
Your just scared that your buddy Drew will be lynched.
Also explains why you joined me on the Votato Wagon.
In post 683, Deimos27 wrote:(scum!TSE ^ CL!Drew) <-> (TSE plays a white flag gambit by putting Drew L-1).
So if the two are scum it's only in this case, which is a probability that's a bit harder to evaluate. I'd rather set it aside for now and look for a different scumteam.
It’s Drew and Norwee.
But your probably the Convert.
Deimos probably voted Drew for Town Credit but when he realized it was growing he stopped because he didn’t want his CL lynched.
Assuming NorwegianboyEE is the CL if they convert one of me or Clidd it’s legit game over for Town.
So like we better hope Drew is CL here.
Although if we do lynch Drew and he only flips Cult PR and I do get converted tonight, it should become obvious the next day don’t worry.
When someone is converted their stance and motivation changes.
going from a semi serious vote(one with concrete reasons) to a flimsy reasoned vote? wa
also mohab latched onto what joqiza had told me... after he did it.. was a purposeful scumslip. There's not much content to go off of but I don't like Mohab's tone so far.
you're saying thats CL vibes when you're interacting with a hydra of which I myself will be actively posting. Seems to me you are just looking for a reason to needlessly shade me. Want to explain further since yours is the most recent and clearly a serious vote?
also we are at L-1, not L-2.
will be busy tonight so joqiza may be participating but tomorrow i'll be back after work.
Also I think the rest of the wagon is pure from first impressions.
-Koba
I don't think anybody was really suspecting Oromis of being D1 scum but I will note that there's a theory that scum is hyperaware of their scumbuddies, meaning that Oromis's confusion about Mohan vs Norwee here implies that they are probably not og scumpartners with either of these players.
In post 687, clidd wrote:At the moment, I'm in doubt about Mohab. I would like to see his views on the issues raised today. I feel that his entry at the beginning of D2 was more expressive in the sense of resolving will, as if suddenly the interest in joining the game had increased, compared to the more relaxed posture in D1. I am also surprised by the lack of significant paranoia about my slot, considering that in our past game I was scum. Another point that bothers me is that nobody is paying attention to this slot, and I want to be able to distinguish it before moving on.
No worries clidd, you're one of my main suspects, which is why I'm sort of pushing for your opinions here.
I'm ignoring Mohab a bit mainly cause I townread them D1. I also think they've played alright so far D2. There's a chance that they're the convert but I'll consider that as an aside to my CL hunting.
It's pretty spicy for TSE to expect the scumteam to be Norwee/Drew/Deimos with CL!Drew when he's who Norwee and I instantly ganged up on at the start of the day.
