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[Micc]

Vote Count 1.7

votato (5):

Malakittens, stungun0404, notscience, bob3141, Battle Mage

Dunnstral (4):

DoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50, Green Crayons

Battle Mage (2):

Not_Mafia, votato

notscience (1):

geraintm

Malakittens (1):

Dunnstral

Not voting (0):

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Majority is 7 players.

Day 1 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-06-22 07:23:04).[/area]

[Not_Mafia]

That humor is hella forced.

Maybe that’s just his

schtick

[Dunnstral]

I saw battle mage playing similar to this as town.

[Battle Mage]

I saw battle mage playing similar to this as town.

And I saw Dunnstral playing completely different to this as scum.

[Battle Mage]

i have a little but i cant talk about it. by day 2 or 3 ill probably give some more details. as for the association you're drawing between me and dunn, stun, you're right that we aren't scumbuddies, but i dont think your reasons why are all that strong. plus the only reason you know that is cuz you and i are scumbuddies.

shit wrong thread.

Last time I saw something like this it flipped town, but what can ya do!?

[Battle Mage]

Does anyone have experience with scum Dunnstral? I have only played with town Dunnstral as scum to my recollection (2 times).

I know that as town he is not the hardest player to sort, but he still is a little bit tricky. He is easier to sort than nm for sure.

Also, he might get easier by the day, but he also might not. So I am not totally against a lynch there, but would just prefer to keep him in for two reasons. One is he is one of the few players I have experience with, so I might be able to read him better as the game progresses. And two, I do not really find what he has done so far to be super scummy, and if anything the push against him gives me a slight intuition he might be town. I could be wrong there, and I would like to see him post more, but I am not super suspicious.

I do think it is very likely, however, that if one Votato/Dunn is scum, the other is not, and should be assumed to be town. I just don't see them as connected, as votato has made very little mention of Dunn in his posts and Dunn throwing votato out of the blue as a scum partner to someone... wouldn't seem like the smartest plan if they were scum partners? I mean, that's a little bold, drawing that much attention to you

and

your partner?

I've seen scum-Dunnstral once. He tried harder than this and seemed more engaged in a game where he replaced in maybe 60 pages deep - definitely feels town here. Agree with top half of your post, last para doesn't sound right to me. In my recent experience, scum often make little mention of their buddies to avoid associations being drawn. But lynching Vot-scum first is the play, and then decide whether to bite for his stungun 'slip'. Gut says probably not.

[farside22]

I saw battle mage playing similar to this as town.

And I saw Dunnstral playing completely different to this as scum.

I've seen Dunn play differently as town then this.

[farside22]

I'm.not feeling votato as scum. I do think we can look at geraintm tho.

I feel strongly about Dunn scum but would not be opposed to geraintm.

Gross, now votato is acting suspicious.

He's a VI. If you want a link to his past games, let me know.

[Malakittens]

I’m
Finding Dunn more cyrpotic this game

[geraintm]

Just noting that the vote on Votato is now L-2.

Be careful adding another vote, because votato could self-hammer, or someone else could before we get the chance to hear back from Votato, ending the day phase sooner than preferable.

Really? You think scum would self hammer on day 1? Dislike this post a lot, it is just like a drawing attention to themselves post, trying to make themselves look useful and pro town

[geraintm]

so i painstakingly went over geraintm's entire ISO. there isnt even a an attempt to pretend to scumhunt. that slot definitely deserves pressure, but he is so brazen that I'm guessing town over scum actually. maybe. i dunno, its worth voting there and forcing some effort out of the slot.

you can try, but it won't force meto change.
I basically worked out that I hate day 1s, and I am better off being honest and upfront about this to people. I'd rather that than having to try and fake reads on players just to dovert attention from myself. i believe people should play honest, and so that is what i do

[geraintm]

so i painstakingly went over geraintm's entire ISO. there isnt even a an attempt to pretend to scumhunt. that slot definitely deserves pressure, but he is so brazen that I'm guessing town over scum actually. maybe. i dunno, its worth voting there and forcing some effort out of the slot.

The dunn thing does actually seem like a plausible scumslip.

am I allowed to quote from another game in this game?
if you go look at my last game you'll find the same there

[geraintm]

Is this the only example you have of him actively reading the thread? A quick response to the very last post, not directed at him, doesn't scream to me as actively monitoring the thread.

I am pretty sure I answered that just as I was going to bed, it was something I could do quickly

[geraintm]

GC has a fair point, geraintm is still voting not science based off RVS reasoning, which is just a very lazy vote park that is not seemingly going to get us anywhere this day phase. I'm not real fond of it.

it is lazy. i'll move it though when i have somewhere better to move it to. i am notgoing to move it simply for the sake of moving it. that is the sort of thing i dislike others doing so i am not going to do it myself

[Green Crayons]

I mean, there are competing bandwagons and people who have voiced or failed to voice reasons for why they joined them.

Plenty of reasons for a better than RVS vote.

[Green Crayons]

I do appreciate you actually participating in D1, though.

[Green Crayons]

He's a VI. If you want a link to his past games, let me know.

I just finished playing with him. He wasn’t a VI.

[Green Crayons]

Agree with top half of your post, last para doesn't sound right to me.

It did seem like premature association analysis. Interesting theory about AI.

[Green Crayons]

VOTE: Battle Mage

[stungun0404]

Why is BM becoming a valid counterwagon? I see no logical reason to vote them... at all.

[notscience]

Because NM said so and he’s a paragon of transparency!!!

I also don’t think votato is a vi

[Green Crayons]

His vote on votato looks made up.

First, his vote:

Votato votes are lazy. I bet one of y'all are scum.

Challenge accepted!

VOTE: Votato

I like the meta analysis by stungun

, clearly nobody is getting behind Green Crayons, and I think I'm townleaning Dunnstral. And seriously, voting BM on Day 1? This dude has run out of ideas...

He reads votato as scum only because of your meta analysis. But your meta analysis specifically said it was a wash on alignment, and so wasn't AI:

While you may be fairly active in some of your scum games, this evidence does not suggest that in your town games you are always lurking at the start.

Thus, I don't think this initial analysis into your gameplay is very alignment-indicative, as it seems you are breaking pattern regardless of alignment.

So his votato vote pushes a wagon based on nothing AI. He does get in a sweet "lol ooOooOooOoo I'm teasing you with maybe I'm scum" jab, which is more likely to come from scum than town.


Then, this continued vote despite:

i have a little but i cant talk about it. by day 2 or 3 ill probably give some more details. as for the association you're drawing between me and dunn, stun, you're right that we aren't scumbuddies, but i dont think your reasons why are all that strong. plus the only reason you know that is cuz you and i are scumbuddies.

shit wrong thread.

Last time I saw something like this it flipped town, but what can ya do!?

He points to non-player-specific meta that would suggest that votato is town. But just lols over it and keeps his votato vote. His decision to pick and choose "meta" to justify whether votes should move is particularly glaring when you consider he uses meta a few posts later in Post 403 to argue votes on Dunn are misplaced.

[Green Crayons]

His

justification for his

vote on votato looks made up.

Fixed.

[Green Crayons]

a few posts

later

earlier

Also fixed.

[notscience]

VOTE: dunn

I’m getting cold feet