Micro 945 | CultD3 | Game Over!

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 2.9

Oromis(2)

~ NorwegianboyEE(96), Porkens(94)

NorwegianboyEE(2)

~ Mohab500(53), TrueSoulEnergy(45)

Doctor Drew(2)

~ Oromis(170), Deimos27(204)

clidd(1)

~ Doctor Drew(25)


Not Voting (1): clidd(48)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-21 22:32:12)

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by: quaz0r

4k mutantbrot musings

[GeorgeBailey]

Doctor Drew has been prodded!

[Doctor Drew]

Oh jeez, probably should have just said I was going to be vla over the weekend, my bad.

I have said I would go by wotc, but I am not sure I will go by wotp(wisdom of the Porky).

Fmpov, I could convince myself of just about everyone as CL(as someone who has been CL before, it was a hell of a lot easier than playing as town).

For now my vote stays.

[Porkens]

i want you to know that I read your post and I appreciate the time and effort you put in to it.

I don’t want to belabor things, but I have to respond to some of this. Regardless of probabilities or mechanics, the play suggests, to me, that oromis is cult leader. I have been through this litany of brow beating, ad hominem attacks, false dichotomy of “scum or bad player,” and accusations of “game throwing” many many times before. I took a stab in the dark and the reaction I got speaks for itself. Over and over I’ve been challenged here on the chances of things being true or not and the mechanical features that will supposedly bear it out, but none of that really matters. The only question that matters is would Oro target TSE? Of course the answer is yes, as even in his false narrative he admits to it.

To anyone who doubts, I am not game throwing, nor am I trying to appeal to the cult. This is what I believe. I do NOT read either mohab or norwee as scum, especially not day 1. From the remaining field, I see the perfect opportunity for CL to hide, and the play bears that out.

[DkKoba]

maybe consider the common denominator is YOU and that maybe you should listen sometime.

[Oromis]

I'm so terrible at making sure im logged in on the right account zz

[Porkens]

The last time I did listen and it was scum talking. Let me be clear, I’ll go with the majority. If there are 4 votes on norwee I’m not going to hold up the game., I’ll hammer and be happy with my I told you so post game.

[Oromis]

U are sorting slots based on "is this person nice to me" not "is this person scummy"

[Oromis]

what is your read on drew, Porkens?

[Porkens]

Not exactly, no. Although how people act and emote towards me based on my actions and attitude does tell me a lot.

No bullshitting?
Drew seems like scum laying low while the shitstorm rages.

[Oromis]

because the reason we are upset with you is bc you seem to be adjusting your reads just to fit your theory rather than reading to adjust your theory, because you have only used your theory of us being scum and citing something that is especially indicative of my townplay(optimal play, being strategic, etc. I don't like to use wifom unless I need it to manipulate mafia to adjust their nightkill and look "scummy" but this isn't even a regular mafia game)

since this is clearly a pattern in your games, like i said, the common denominator is YOU because this is not something I myself experience and I am fully capable of townreading someone unfairly pushing on me(see Newbie 2007 which just recently finished where Votato was shitpushing on me but I still locktown read him because I can think objectively!) - Koba

[Oromis]

And do you not think a CL would lay low during a shitstorm to avoid attention??

[Oromis]

while I'm much more wavery on CL!drew read after discussing with joq (he thinks norwee is still a prime candidate), While there's nothing specific we pin down on Drew, there's PoE based on us reading the slots around him. Had we not tracked TSE, he would have been our top CL read.

[Doctor Drew]

Porky, you think I am cult with Oromis?

Wouldn't I am trying harder to misdirect if that were the case?

[Porkens]

Listen, I’m not trying to trigger you, but logic is NAI, and I don’t put any stock in self-meta. I also believe you capable of playing to it at will.

I’m guessing you know how I play, and so it stands out to me that you would get so invested/offended. It makes me very suspicious, and so I do what I do.

Push comes to shove, I’ll do my best to do the right thing. But we aren’t/weren’t close to a lynch and there is plenty of space to wiggle and get weird.


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We live in a multiverse folks. To me you are all schrodinger’s scum. Depending on how I squint at the game I see different realities. Gun to my head drew is og cult with tse culted tracker and oromis CL with a ballsy gambit.


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Now, There’s another universe where norwee is scum, but I don’t know what makes him cult leader over anyone else. I’ll reread Later today.

[Oromis]

Out of sheer curiosity. It seems like you outed your theory, and to you, our reaction confirms that we are cult. For contrast, how would you envisioning town!Oromis reacting?

~joq

[Oromis]

If Mohab is playing the best game of her life as CL, for instance, then we probably lose.

Tbh. This post has been bugging me a bit. Because I TR mohab too, but not quite to this extent, and I probably wouldn't express it this way. And I look back through your ISO, and the progression seems a bit sudden.

~joq

[Deimos27]

I gave the example of Mohab as a slot I'm unlikely to find a lynch on tomorrow because my basic PoE is still Norwee/clidd/Drew and the mechanically fickle slots are Oromis/Porkens/TSE. i.e. she is the player currently least likely to become my #1 CL read. Of course I will still be re-evaluating everyone D3 based on what new information we have at our fingertips, and nothing is set in stone.

[Deimos27]

I feel like the proposition that (CL!Mohab = True) -> (very low town EV) shouldn't be all that controversial, given the gamestate.

[Deimos27]

but logic is NAI

Beautifully succinct. Put that on your sig.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I really believe that getting rid of Norwee gets rid of the CL and then we just get Drew and hunt for the N1 Convert.

[NorwegianboyEE]

TSE, you haven't once explained the reasoning behind why you are so certain of me being CL have you?

[Doctor Drew]

If Mohab is playing the best game of her life as CL, for instance, then we probably lose.

Tbh. This post has been bugging me a bit. Because I TR mohab too, but not quite to this extent, and I probably wouldn't express it this way. And I look back through your ISO, and the progression seems a bit sudden.

~joq

For a micro game I rountinely forget she is in this game. They have been very lurky, especially as of late(pot me kettle I know). And according to others playing way different than their meta.

There is definitely a scenario where she is CL.

[Doctor Drew]

*pot meet kettle

[Oromis]

why do I feel like the game never advances if I'm not actively posting

-Koba