micro 951 mystery box of silver gnine: well we're done here.

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Hey all!

vla fridays and saturdays, etc

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A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

People of Middle-earth. I have an announcement to make during the trying times of this drought.

I am a

dehydrated townie

. I will die at the end of night 1 unless someone hydrates me. I'm assuming there's a town role out there that has a way to hydrate or give water. I'm counting on you tonight.

I wasn't 100% sure whether I should claim this next part and deliberated for quite a while about it, but I think the advantage of town knowing about it outweighs the disadvantage of scum being aware of it.
If I ever become

overhydrated

, I will be revealed as an Innocent Child. Do it if it's feasible or if you think it's a good idea.

This is why i play mbos games lol

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hi guyssss I'm here to bring the moisture

VOTE: skitter30
statistically the more excited I am to play w u the more likely it is that one of us is scum so
you're outed
sorry


people should interact with the wizard's nicely formatted word vomit

Hi hi hi! I am excited to play with you !

VOTE: wooper

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@Olórin are you hectic

oh
hmmmm

uh guys
Fishy Logic are scum
like actually scum

pedit: nahdia gets it

cuz they ignored olorin's claim?

i have gut townpings on hari!

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wait ep is in this game? this is a seriously awesome pl and i'm excited

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i feel like fishy logic's opener was prepared and would have been posted as either alignment, no?

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um i've seen town and scum prepare rvs posts all the time

like it's not a sense of 'needing' to so much as they thought they thought of a funny rvs meme and decided to post it, which i think comes from either alignment

in fact i almost think it comes from town more than scum
(not that i think it's inherently townie but the examples i remember offhand seem to have been done by townies)

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but would town feel the need to prepare something?

the more i think about this the more i dislike it, i think

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i'm not sure if i know how to articulate why the 'would town feel the need to prepare something' bit is bothering me but it just seems like a strange take
like i'm not sure that 'feeling the need to prepare something' correlates to alignment in any way and the assumption is that scum (and not town) might feel that need is a little strange to me

i'm not sure if i explained that well but tldr it's a weird take that i don't really like

wooper is that what you were thinking about fishy's entrance as well

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i mean in general maybe but i'm not sure that applies to meme rvs posts
if anything i would associate 'let me go out of my way to make an rvs meme' with townie behavior than scum behavior

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i don't really like this take so i think i'm going to start here for now

VOTE: nahdia

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i associate 'posting meme rvs posts' with 'how much someone likes to post meme rvs posts' over alignment
like it was the third post of the game and the one post with actual content was posted like a minute before the rvs meme so it's not like they had anything to react to at that point anyways

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i think dats might be town

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wooper is that what you were thinking about fishy's entrance as well

wooper did you see this bit ^

i like 50 from dats

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(arguably i've actually had the most accuracy reading skitter but that's because (1) i townread her in both games we played and (2) she always happened to be town so i'm not gonna put too much stock into that)

holy fuvk the pedits

-D

??

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i associate 'posting meme rvs posts' with 'how much someone likes to post meme rvs posts' over alignment

objectively same btw I think that you/nahdia convo hits a very boring impasse very quickly w/o revealing ai stuff

- why did you originally say you liked nahdia's post?
- it is possible that we have differing views on how scum approach rvs because of different site meta/culture experiences. i wasn't aware that scum had that experience / expectation at taht point in scum history, from my current perspective i think that posts like that are p much nai and that's why i thought it strange to call that scummy
- i disagree with your dats take and how you're framing it

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me too
I also don't think 50 is towny, it feels like backpedalling lmao

like there's an entirely valid convo to be had there & he's kinda sassing me at the expense of answering it but not in an anti-charismaric way, it's like he just wants to appear right or smth

it's soemthing that i think would be a bit hard for scum!dats to post

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skitter what are your strongest gut first impressions this game off the top of your head

- maybe dats town!
- maybe hari town!
- i hate like all of your takes and i think you might be scum!
- disagree with nahdia's rvs meme thing but maybe i just didn't have enough context to understand it!

also i feel like my takes are kinda in the open so what's the point of this question

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VOTE: skitter30

y

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ooh this'll be fun

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oh youre back on me beinh vocal and unpopular early d1 being a scumtell.. sick

I was wondering if you picked up on votato vibin' scum!nahdia at the same time as you

first bit: well i wouldn't say the scumtell is 'being vocal and unpopular' more like 'i'm looking at what you're saying in the game and i'm just going like ???? because very little of what you're posting is similar to what i'm thinking off of the same posts'

second bit: i did pick up on that! i just forgot to write it. lowkey town indicative for thinking the same thing at the same time.

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i see a disconnect between

"nahdia's tell is bad/ineffective" to "nahdia is scummy".

i felt like you were pushing someone for iffy reasons and (at least in teh current meta) i view what fishy logic did as being nai so it felt like you were making up/forcing a reason to vote them

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i mean, yes, exactly this. your post explained in more detail where u were coming from. i can see the progression of your logic.

i'm kinda confused where you don't see the progression of my logic

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yeah that's a good take i think

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dats you think you're good at reading bugspray?
from my limited experience with them i don't think they've done much ai

also i think that dats literally commenting on every single post on p1 cuz he was annoyed is p townie for him too

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g'luck with the job interview!

idk how to explain it better but that just seems like a ... bad? reason to vote someone so it felt like you were manufacturing a reason to vote somewhere.
like it felt forced and unnatural

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i think that you guys are conflating 'disliking someone's p2 take and pressuring them' with 'scumreading'

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wut

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wooper i follow very little of what you've been posting this game

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wooper i follow very little of what you've been posting this game

what do you think of my wooper nahdia solve?

that's a bit wild and i'm not sure i see them fitting as svs

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what's irking you friand?

can you just like ... explain your nahdia read and why you're voting them rn?

also i'm going to pretend to occupy myself at work now so i'll be back later

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but they are lightly shading each other but also somewhat defending each other and certainly not really pushing each other. plus they are both independently scummy. wooper seems to be on nahdia more to distance than because of a genuine scumread

in the past few pages wooper went from defending nahdia to voting them just after defendign them and it doesn't seem 'neat' enough for him to be aligned with nahdia, if that makes sense?
and i'm not sure wooper feels the need to vote in that fashion if they're partners either really

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my page two solve was two of bugs/nahdia/votato and i have so far seen nothing that changed my mind

-D

i'm not sure votato/nahdia makes sense
also is this cuz you're townreading everyone else or

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but I'm also nothing their only read trajectory so far has been on u, uncertain => scum => gladiate & the reasoning is...

yeah the escalation was a bit weird imo and i feel like they (well, both of you tbh) were kinda dinging me for taking a p2 stance and pushing something that i felt weird and worth pushing at that stage of teh game. i feel like nahdia's sort of upselling the strength of the push and then saying that my scumread was unwarranted when ... i'm not sure i actually presented a scumread

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skitter gives me warm feelings but that might be shock from the knife

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it doesn't have to make sense

ok fair enough.
i'm just pointing out that i don't think that nahdia/votato is super viable imo

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i dont see scum making that claim so early. its potentially verifiable and will lead to wayyyy too much scrutiny in subsequent days. unless scum has watering abilities and can prevent the IC trigger.

does it not seem eerily similar to hectic's claim from last game?:

viewtopic.php?p=11736760#p11736760

i'm not sure why it being similar to his claim from last time would indicate that it's not town-indicative

also early townlean on votato!

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like wasn't he town last time?

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ok
votato said he thought olorin was townie
you asked why, and then you cite the claim from last time. it read to me that you think the similarity to the last time he claimed like this is a reason why votato oughn't be townreading him but i don't understand the logic you're using for that

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like do you think he's lying? i'm not sure what this has to do with votato's tr on him

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are you just trying to say that the claim is nai and may or may not be true?

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that was a ... very confusing way to try to say that

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yeah taht's what i thought to
i thought you were objecting to votato cuz you were saying it was scummy of hectic to claim that way

i'm not sure this is scummy of hari tho, or if it was a very poor attempt at communicating something

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i feel like if olorin doesn't walk back the claim it's probably townie because taht's a p ~bold~ claim to make as scum (i.e. specifically the potential to become ic bit)

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skitter: i think it's not scummy, and that makes me think you're scum

i think this is an inaccurate representation of my position

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maybe. i noticed you later referring to it as a pressure vote, which isn't the impression i got from the way you were referring to my posts. but i'll bite: got anything out of your pressure?

it was more of a pressure/pushing vote than anything else. it didn't really indicate a scumread at the time
i don't really like your reaction tho

and @hari claiming something that can make you ic feels like a thing scum probably doesn't do imo?

and i hope your job interview went well !

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ah. good point. it feels like a weird thing to make up entirely out of nowhere tho, like the last time it was at least partially related to his real role

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@ nahdia:
- the level of escalation seemed weird and out of touch with what i did/said
- the distinction you're drawing between what i said and what votato said seems arbitrary

like your actual reason for voting fishy for the meme post was ok but as you elaborated on it it felt forced so i pushed there, and then that just escalated in a p strange way and it doesn't really seem to match up with how you're viewing other people

also wrt hectic ... i guess if the claim is true there's a decent chance it just resolves itself?

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I'm not super thrilled with how the day ended and tbh it kinda jarred me out of the gamestate and i feel ~unmoored~ rn

Off the cuff things i wanna say:
- dat's long post responding to every post on p1 felt townie, but his other posts i dont townread and i actively scumread formerfish, in particular his spat with nahdia
- @dats you have experience with bugspray, you said? What do you think of the hammer/knife thing?
- i still townread votato, and dislike fish's push on him
- i cant tell if bugspray is scum or trolling

vla for a bit, i'm not feeling super great :/

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Good job dunn, apologies for repping out.

Thanks schadd for modding

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Thanks

(Although it was much more dunn than me)