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skitter30 she/herLast Laughshe/her
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are you just trying to say that the claim is nai and may or may not be true?ShowHiatus once more.
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^exactly skitter. my TR is based on the claim which seems like a really dumb play to come from scum. its a mechanical read. you dispute the mechanical read for mechanical reasons but now you're saying the mechanics are simply NAI?
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yes. i am saying that the claim is not alignment indicative and may not be true.In post 150, skitter30 wrote:are you just trying to say that the claim is nai and may or may not be true?i don't know myself. i don't remember. when i close my eyes i can't recall my face. and you? do you know yourself?-
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that was a ... very confusing way to try to say thatShowHiatus once more.
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sorryIn post 153, skitter30 wrote:that was a ... very confusing way to try to say that
i said explicitly that it isn't scum indicative for hectic to fake claim:In post 154, votato wrote:yeah at first it sounded like you were saying we should view the claim as AI and scum-indicative. hmmmm
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In post 149, hari wrote:i think the similarities make it less likely to be true here and that it isn't scum indicative for hectic to fake claim at the start of a game as he has done so in multiple games. sometimes i am busy and sometimes i do not see something i would like to comment on.i don't know myself. i don't remember. when i close my eyes i can't recall my face. and you? do you know yourself?-
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yeah taht's what i thought to
i thought you were objecting to votato cuz you were saying it was scummy of hectic to claim that way
i'm not sure this is scummy of hari tho, or if it was a very poor attempt at communicating somethingShowHiatus once more.
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i feel like if olorin doesn't walk back the claim it's probably townie because taht's a p ~bold~ claim to make as scum (i.e. specifically the potential to become ic bit)ShowHiatus once more.
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Nahdia They/ThemScheherazadeThey/Them
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did you? maybe i misread you but this was my interpretation of events:In post 109, votato wrote:
but even if you like the way i laid out my reasoning better, i made exactly the same logical leap there.In post 101, Nahdia wrote:
i dont really buy that a towny would think "this tell is faked" on page 1. a serious vote on page 1 is always going to be somewhat "iffy", the fact that your mind jumps to "fake" rather than "wrong" doesn't make sense from a town perspective to me.In post 94, skitter30 wrote:
i'm kinda confused where you don't see the progression of my logicIn post 91, Nahdia wrote:i mean, yes, exactly this. your post explained in more detail where u were coming from. i can see the progression of your logic.
anyway gotta dash. got a job interview.
fishy:here is a meme
nahdia:i think meme is scummy
skitter:i think it's not scummy, and that makes me think you're scum
votato:regardless of whether it's scummy, i think reacting to meme in that way is more scummy
pretty much exactly what votato and skitter have said. likely comes from town. if he is scum, the dehydrated claim is likely still true, though perhaps not with the same outcomes. cant see scum fakeclaiming something reliant on another role like that.In post 130, hari wrote:
what did you think of olorin's opening?In post 29, Nahdia wrote:but would town feel the need to prepare something?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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i think this is an inaccurate representation of my positionIn post 158, Nahdia wrote:skitter: i think it's not scummy, and that makes me think you're scumShowHiatus once more.
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maybe. i noticed you later referring to it as a pressure vote, which isn't the impression i got from the way you were referring to my posts. but i'll bite: got anything out of your pressure?skitter30 wrote:
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hari idk it sheTownieidk it she
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i guess i don't understand why you (and others) are so willing to accept that the claim is truthful, but this probably isn't alignment indicative as i've had prior experience with hectic making a claim of this sort and it being generally met with acceptance. i have been viewing it very similarly to fishy logic's post (as a prepared opener) instead of as a real claim.In post 158, Nahdia wrote:pretty much exactly what votato and skitter have said. likely comes from town. if he is scum, the dehydrated claim is likely still true, though perhaps not with the same outcomes. cant see scum fakeclaiming something reliant on another role like that.i don't know myself. i don't remember. when i close my eyes i can't recall my face. and you? do you know yourself?-
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it was more of a pressure/pushing vote than anything else. it didn't really indicate a scumread at the timeIn post 160, Nahdia wrote:maybe. i noticed you later referring to it as a pressure vote, which isn't the impression i got from the way you were referring to my posts. but i'll bite: got anything out of your pressure?
i don't really like your reaction tho
and @hari claiming something that can make you ic feels like a thing scum probably doesn't do imo?
and i hope your job interview went well !ShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
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can you elaborate on the wooper and my slot's read (other than obviously the meme thing)?
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but why not? like if olorin says 'give me enough water and i will become an ic' and there isn't a water mechanic, what is the risk?In post 162, skitter30 wrote:and @hari claiming something that can make you ic feels like a thing scum probably doesn't do imo?i don't know myself. i don't remember. when i close my eyes i can't recall my face. and you? do you know yourself?-
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ah. good point. it feels like a weird thing to make up entirely out of nowhere tho, like the last time it was at least partially related to his real roleShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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well, if olorin walks the claim back and says it was just to generate conversation, he'll be right back to null for me. im certainly not advocating for clearing him, but it's been my experience that page 1 claims are rarely scum. and like i said, i think the mechanics around the claim (i'll die if no one hydrates me before n1) really don't sound like something scum would fakeclaim. a sample of potential scenarios:
- olorin is town, and the claim is real.
- olorin is scum, and the claim is totally fabricated. i think this is unlikely because of how he claimed he'll die n1 if he's not hydrated. it seems to presuppose there is another role in the game that can hydrate.
- olorin is scum, but the dehydrated claim is true. i can see us being in this world. i dont think scum would have a role that could suicide n1, and obviously the IC would need to be fake in this scenario. but it's possible he gets something good out of being hydrated, and wants to direct a role that can do so towards him.
okay, well again, that's really not the impression i got. ill go back and try to recall my thoughts at the time. but what about my reaction do you not like?skitter30 wrote:
it was more of a pressure/pushing vote than anything else. it didn't really indicate a scumread at the timeIn post 160, Nahdia wrote:maybe. i noticed you later referring to it as a pressure vote, which isn't the impression i got from the way you were referring to my posts. but i'll bite: got anything out of your pressure?
i don't really like your reaction tho!
Wooper's posts all read genuine to me. stuff like 47 feels like how town scumhunts. he's been unabashaed about throwing his vote around wildly.Fishy Logic wrote:can you elaborate on the wooper and my slot's read (other than obviously the meme thing)?
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the intro post thing really doesn't factor in. is worth noting that my reads on yourself and skitter are weak (though thinking about it more, i might put skitter below you). my read on you is mostly gut. i didnt like the way you buddied up to skitter in 39. the read is fine, but just the wording pinged me a little.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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In post 33, skitter30 wrote:In post 29, Nahdia wrote:but would town feel the need to prepare something?the more i think about this the more i dislike it, i thinkIn post 35, skitter30 wrote:i'm not sure if i know how to articulate why the 'would town feel the need to prepare something' bit is bothering me but it just seems like a strange take
like i'm not sure that 'feeling the need to prepare something' correlates to alignment in any way and the assumption is that scum (and not town) might feel that need is a little strange to me
i'm not sure if i explained that well but tldrit's a weird take that i don't really like
wooper is that what you were thinking about fishy's entrance as well
you kind of harped on not liking my reason for voting, a lot. it didn't feel like a "oh i just want to pressure you" vote based on what a major deal you seemed to be making over it. thats why i thought you were scumreading me. i suppose the phrase "i think i'm going to start here for now" does lend some credence to your point that it was purely for pressure. but that's what i was looking at anyway.In post 40, skitter30 wrote:i don't really like this takeso i think i'm going to start here for now
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i don't think it would be out of nowhere as the game is called (at least in signups it was) a jolly drought and the claim seems to be based on last game.In post 165, skitter30 wrote:ah. good point. it feels like a weird thing to make up entirely out of nowhere tho, like the last time it was at least partially related to his real role
olorin is town and the claim is fake is a definite possibility. hectic maintained the fake aspects of his claim in mystery box hate alongside the real aspect for almost the entirety of the game and he maintained a fake claim in blitz 2 until he died in the night, both as town.In post 166, Nahdia wrote:olorin is town, and the claim is real.
olorin is scum, and the claim is totally fabricated. i think this is unlikely because of how he claimed he'll die n1 if he's not hydrated. it seems to presuppose there is another role in the game that can hydrate.
olorin is scum, but the dehydrated claim is true. i can see us being in this world. i dont think scum would have a role that could suicide n1, and obviously the IC would need to be fake in this scenario. but it's possible he gets something good out of being hydrated, and wants to direct a role that can do so towards him.i don't know myself. i don't remember. when i close my eyes i can't recall my face. and you? do you know yourself?-
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yeah i guess that's also possible, but im less interested in analyzing that for now.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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@ nahdia:
- the level of escalation seemed weird and out of touch with what i did/said
- the distinction you're drawing between what i said and what votato said seems arbitrary
like your actual reason for voting fishy for the meme post was ok but as you elaborated on it it felt forced so i pushed there, and then that just escalated in a p strange way and it doesn't really seem to match up with how you're viewing other people
also wrt hectic ... i guess if the claim is true there's a decent chance it just resolves itself?ShowHiatus once more.
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i.... dont see how it's arbitrary at all. what you two did is like, totally different.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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votato sites a scumtell as his reason to vote me. clear distinction from your behavior towards me.In post 45, votato wrote:
except another scumtell is not being able to pick up on or appreciate humor, especially rvs humor. although i dont want to give that attempt at humor too much credit. and i think that one is more reliable.In post 41, Nahdia wrote:....rvs is exactly the time vague scumtells should be applied? because there's not much else to go on?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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