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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:34 am

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In post 1548, notscience wrote:That’s fine because I’m pretty confident after I flip green prana goes tomorrow


nobody's voting you? or have even talked about voting you really
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:42 am

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I’m responding the bms threat
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:40 am

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In post 1523, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Hi I’m here. I got some errands to run before I really start going, but I do want to say this. I fibbed about my role. I really had two shots, I sent a fruit to BM and he’s unarmed
hmmm, so this means outside of traitor screwiness, bm can only be scum with flippy. i'm not sure if these two have the cajones to pull off a team gambit like that, but we should be able to solve the setup via massclaim (which should happen tomorrow imo).

strange. i was so confident in a bm/prana scumteam. looks like i have to do slightly more thinking.

anyway

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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:50 am

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Flippy is a fruit vendor regardless bc una conformed it
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:04 am

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In post 1552, Hoopla wrote:
In post 1523, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Hi I’m here. I got some errands to run before I really start going, but I do want to say this. I fibbed about my role. I really had two shots, I sent a fruit to BM and he’s unarmed
hmmm, so this means outside of traitor screwiness, bm can only be scum with flippy. i'm not sure if these two have the cajones to pull off a team gambit like that, but we should be able to solve the setup via massclaim (which should happen tomorrow imo).

strange. i was so confident in a bm/prana scumteam. looks like i have to do slightly more thinking.

anyway

UNVOTE:
VOTE: prana
"looks like i have to do slightly more thinking....ah fuck that, let's just jump on the biggest wagon, despite my logic falling apart again!"

Oh how I laughed! :lol:

And you're still trying to push me as scum, even now? Desperate, not coming from genuine inquisitive, responsive town here.
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 1520, PranaDevil wrote:I would have watched Agar, but because notscience so kindly made a thing about it in thread, it turned the whole fucking thing into a WIFOM deal. And he fucking knows it.
You're either scum or just objectively WRONG here. :]
If the scum leave the roleblocker alive, they risk missing another nightkill.
And since they are more or less forced to kill there, you'd get a result.
Deciding not to target AGar is 100% the wrong choice, and obv. especially now that we have seen the end result there's no "if"s about it.

My point might as well be on Prana right now, but I intend to read/write something before.
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:06 am

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In post 1553, notscience wrote:Flippy is a fruit vendor regardless bc una conformed it
I've also confirmed it - you might have missed it... :yawn:
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:06 am

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In post 1523, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Hi I’m here. I got some errands to run before I really start going, but I do want to say this. I fibbed about my role. I really had two shots, I sent a fruit to BM and he’s unarmed
In post 1553, notscience wrote:Flippy is a fruit vendor regardless bc una conformed it
yes, but there's a chance that flippy could be scum-aligned, is what i mean.

2-shot gunsmith/full watcher is a lot of investigation power - especially when town was given a roleblocker (capable of pseudo-investigations).
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:09 am

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Well that's the day pretty much over. I'll simply say, if Prana flips scum it's a stroke of luck, and if Prana flips town, y'all are idiots, and I should get to decide tomorrow's lynch. Regardless, a terrible play, and a waste of a day, achieving nothing we couldn't have done later.

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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:10 am

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In post 1526, bob3141 wrote:if flippy is town then its likely una and bm are town.
No, IF flippy is town, we are all town. (barring scum!Doc but that is pointless to talk today)

AND IF FLIPPY IS SCUM, EVEN THEN ONE OF ME/BM IS TOWN, so that discussion is also pointless today.

We lynch Prana to push the PoE forward, and you can all ISO me if they flip scum.
So far it seems at least some of my earlier reads were correct.
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:10 am

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In post 1554, Battle Mage wrote:And you're still trying to push me as scum, even now? Desperate, not coming from genuine inquisitive, responsive town here.
i'm currently reevaluating.

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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:13 am

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In post 1560, Hoopla wrote:
In post 1554, Battle Mage wrote:And you're still trying to push me as scum, even now? Desperate, not coming from genuine inquisitive, responsive town here.
i'm currently reevaluating.

keep your pants on.
you can't just change your mind in light of new evidence? with me, it's a pretty quick process - I don't feel the need to progress gradually to avoid making any wrong moves, if you catch my drift. :wink:
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 1473, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1446, AGar wrote:Hi. Just got here.

We should lynch Klick.

I blocked him last night.

VOTE: Klick
VOTE: Klick

I fucking called it! :D
@battle mage.

why did you blindly believe agar's roleblocker claim, when from your perspective the no-kill could have been explained from scum targeting you?
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 1559, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1526, bob3141 wrote:if flippy is town then its likely una and bm are town.
No, IF flippy is town, we are all town. (barring scum!Doc but that is pointless to talk today)

AND IF FLIPPY IS SCUM, EVEN THEN ONE OF ME/BM IS TOWN, so that discussion is also pointless today.

We lynch Prana to push the PoE forward, and you can all ISO me if they flip scum.
So far it seems at least some of my earlier reads were correct.
I fail to see how lynching Prana progresses any PoE - it's about the least informative lynch we could muster. Just a hope and prayer it flips red.
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 1556, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1553, notscience wrote:Flippy is a fruit vendor regardless bc una conformed it
I've also confirmed it - you might have missed it... :yawn:
My point was in reference e of a scum team with you and flippy.
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 1562, Hoopla wrote:
In post 1473, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1446, AGar wrote:Hi. Just got here.

We should lynch Klick.

I blocked him last night.

VOTE: Klick
VOTE: Klick

I fucking called it! :D
@battle mage.

why did you blindly believe agar's roleblocker claim, when from your perspective the no-kill could have been explained from scum targeting you?
Are you seriously still trying to shade me? I'm confirmed-town remember, try doing some actual scumhunting. :facepalm:
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:17 am

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In post 1561, Battle Mage wrote:you can't just change your mind in light of new evidence? with me, it's a pretty quick process - I don't feel the need to progress gradually to avoid making any wrong moves, if you catch my drift.
believe it or not, my take on the game comes from a thoughtful place. new evidence requires thinking.

we do have
way too much
power claimed, though. so i'm trying to work out who is most likely lying.
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:17 am

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AGar was more or less conf!town the second Klick flipped Red.
Plus they were our protective AND had shown good instinct with their N1 result. Versus Prana being unconfirmed and even with a claimed guilty today could be counterlynched.. Scum were already in a bad spot, and they didn't want to do either, but had to pick one.
Also, I'd argue Occams suggests scum didn't have to fear a Watcher, because Prana is scum. :]
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:18 am

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Who the fuck would have wasted a night kill on you bm
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:18 am

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In post 1564, notscience wrote:
In post 1556, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1553, notscience wrote:Flippy is a fruit vendor regardless bc una conformed it
I've also confirmed it - you might have missed it... :yawn:
My point was in reference e of a scum team with you and flippy.
you what!?

Jesus, this game is hard work. Let's lynch our strongest claimed town PR rather than doing any new scumhunting, with all our conf-town players still alive, and then tomorrow we can go for either the cop or the bulletproof confirmed townie.

I'm glad we're going back to night phase, because :facepalm:
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 1565, Battle Mage wrote:Are you seriously still trying to shade me? I'm confirmed-town remember, try doing some actual scumhunting.
you're actually not, so perhaps tone the screeching down a little.
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:20 am

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In post 1563, Battle Mage wrote:I fail to see how lynching Prana progresses any PoE - it's about the least informative lynch we could muster. Just a hope and prayer it flips red.
Absolutely not true.
If Prana flip town, there's scum on the wagon as of now, guaranteed.
And you have a conf.town in me and BM.
And I had a scumread on Prana anyway.
I see no reason why they shouldn't be the lynch today.
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:21 am

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In post 1569, Battle Mage wrote:
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:21 am

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I still think there's no need to rush the lynch though.
Let's all compare notes while we're here.
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:22 am

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It's a little beyond midnight here though, so I'm off to bed first.
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