In post 9, SleeperSoul wrote:Hey guys! It's your resident obvtown SleeperSoul here to help us win on day 1 with the perfect coalition!
HEAL: votato HEAL: Pooky HEAL: TuxedoMask
^The four of us just finished an epic game of True Love. viewtopic.php?uid=34469&f=83&t=83365&start=0
I think I have pretty good soul reads on these fellows, listed in order of strongest to weakest.
HURT: Deimos
Deimos you were my cold hard scum soulread as I quickly scanned the list last night. So you could be scum, or we could just have very different souls, or it's just that your name sounds kinda evil
In post 11, Deimos27 wrote:My name? Sounds evil?
Nononononono, you misunderstand
The Ancient Greek personification of terror is a very friendly fellow
In post 170, Deimos27 wrote:In post 163, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 160, SleeperSoul wrote:
actually if I count myself as town then everyone else has exactly 75% chance of being town. I calculated this yesterday.
Also, according to my calculations, there are 28 possible scum pairs in this game if I count myself as town.
And what value does this latter calculation provide you? What is the value of outing it?
HEAL: pooky
His 'brutal honesty' about my ability to play scum reminds me of when we fought last game.
HEAL: deimos
You seem like a concerned townie. The calculation up there doesn't provide any value except for 'making me readable' to soul readers. I'm trying to show you guys my state of mind as a townie... I calculated it yesterday as a townie. It's borderline useless information..... but it is the truth.
pedit deimos is my strongest town read atm
In post 177, Deimos27 wrote:So he was scum in the game you played? What he do that constituted "telling" you his alignment?
In post 176, SleeperSoul wrote:I'm trying to show you guys my state of mind as a townie... I calculated it yesterday as a townie. It's borderline useless information..... but it is the truth.
You call it showing your state of mind. I call it random LAMIST IIoA.
But ok, I recognize that some players can have this kind of 0 filter townmeta, so I'll wait on the meta argument and take a look myself later when I have motivation.
careful about calling activity town-AI in a setup that incentivises scum activity/towntelling, but I think the fact that Sleeper actually has 0 experience with scum more than compensates for that, and his spamming + lack of self-awareness is more likely towny than not.
idk. the association read is wearing off but theres 1 scum between you 2 i feel
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
like something specific like that you can easily be like "oh you said this here etc"
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
I seriously don't care about the "1 scum in 1 scum out" strategy. its meaningless to me. if I'm scum it comes down to preference of the path to victory. the "suboptimal" strategy is only slightly less optimal because of the pros of doing it. obviously you would more likely take the lower resistance coalition and if both of you end up on it its whatever bc hey at least u got thru that phase.
im just annoyed at hearin this "optimal strategy" thing bc scum is not going to explicitly follow it and push for it. and regardless you've been more critical of sleeper in recent posts so hey.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
Clover also seems kinda scummy to me so having him as town makes me more suspicous of koba, but I can see an oblivious stubborn town having clover as town anyways.
In post 908, DkKoba wrote:im just annoyed at hearin this "optimal strategy" thing bc scum is not going to explicitly follow it and push for it. and regardless you've been more critical of sleeper in recent posts so hey.
It only makes sense to take a suboptimal coalition if that's all you can settle for. The gamestate was very cooperative and low resistance, there would've been no harm at least attempting to shade sleeper more and take someone else on-board.
In post 911, SleeperSoul wrote:Clover also seems kinda scummy to me so having him as town makes me more suspicous of koba, but I can see an oblivious stubborn town having clover as town anyways.
Well if you had to exclude yourself, what would your coalition be?
In post 911, SleeperSoul wrote:Clover also seems kinda scummy to me so having him as town makes me more suspicous of koba, but I can see an oblivious stubborn town having clover as town anyways.
Well if you had to exclude yourself, what would your coalition be?
I would have to think about this pretty hard, reread everything again.... That's why my coalition is sparse at the moment.
If I need to do that, I can do that tomorrow morning.
In post 911, SleeperSoul wrote:Clover also seems kinda scummy to me so having him as town makes me more suspicous of koba, but I can see an oblivious stubborn town having clover as town anyways.
Well if you had to exclude yourself, what would your coalition be?
I would have to think about this pretty hard, reread everything again.... That's why my coalition is sparse at the moment.
If I need to do that, I can do that tomorrow morning.
I mean, it's not that complicated a question. It's basically "who is your strongest townread out of the players not currently on your coalition"
My problem right now is that I'm pretty sure there's one scum in Clover/Aldus but I don't think they can both be scum and I can't figure out who the second is.