Open 784 - Hard-Boiled (Town Wins!)

[word321]

only works*

[Nash]

L-1

My bad, I meant to UNVOTE: Marashu
I'll read and post my thoughts later

[Midari Ikishima]

L-1

I didn't see the hidden vote from Worchest

Honestly how long are you going to waffle and not put any thoughts down.

VOTE: Worch
It's getting to a point where you are just coasting thru it feels.

[Midari Ikishima]

Also apparently no one in this game can really count. Myself included.

[Midari Ikishima]

People seem to be coming around as Tux as town, but I dunno. I do get a vibe that is pocketing me and I can't shake it.

What can I do to get you to stop shaking in my pocket?

@MOD Marashu is on the VC twice, one of which is voting themselves.

What's up worsch? What are your strongest reads right now?

Mod Note

Thank you, fixed

I'm still thinking.

VOTE: Marashu

Yes, basically that.

The platform has little notoriety in my country.

What you mean ?

VOTE: Battle Mage

Love it when you go in on me naked

Why ?

allows me to townbloc you

"Townbloc" in which sense ?

"Townbloc" in which sense ?

I see you signed up right before this game - do you have any prior mafia experience?

I played a few games on "AoPS" and on a platform called "Zoom", where it is possible to have eye contact with the players. I had a brief trip to "E.M" and "ToS", where I got negative experiences, until I found MafiaScum. My affinity with the theme is average.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Worcestershire, do you intend on playing the game?

I'm already playing.

10 posts. Nothing of value just parroting someone else's read. Vote with no real reason. Ugh.

[JacksonVirgo]

VC 1.8

Marashu (4)

- Battle Mage, Deimos27, superbowl9, Worcestershire

Battle Mage (1)

- Tuxedo Mask

superbowl9 (2)

- votato, word321

Nash (1)

- ceejayvinoya

Tuxedo Mask (2)

- Marashu, brassherald

Midari Ikishima (1)

- Doctor Drew

Wocestershire (1)

- Midari Ikishima

Not Voting (1)

- Nash
With 7 votes as hammer... Marashu is at L-3

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-07-07 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Joined Mod iso

votato V/LA from Friday to Monday
brassherald V/LA until Monday
Midari Ikishima V/LA until Tuesday

[Midari Ikishima]

When the mod has more words and posts then you. This is an issue.

[Battle Mage]

being paranoid thiniking of pr baiting due to a reference to other game, and being consistent with the push on it executed by scum?
i find it hard to pull that as scum; it dsnt only consist of actually considering the pr component (wich is harder by scum, since they know they rnt actually mean intended) but to base ur vote on a rly weak "excuse" and being consistent with it; on the town case the actual paranoia is what fuels it, similar tp how scums paranoia make them oversesitive to reactions. thats why i think its more townindicative than anything else.

sure, maybe it is possible to pull as scum; but it definetly is harder, and depends on multiple layers (identifiying possible pr hunt->fake paranoia->voting on that alone), so it naturally leans town.

not the PR bit specifically, which isn't really relevant (as the idea Tux genuinely thinks I'm scum fishing for a PR here stretches credulity beyond anything I'm willing to accept), but the principle of scum being buddied by somebody town and pushing back vociferously on it, and using it as a crutch to scumhunt. Originally I felt surely scum would be quite happy being buddied, and at least not try to 1v1 the guy doing it which seems counter-productive. But on reflection, it's quite an easy way to get into the game on the front foot by attacking them (and also being buddied might make them nervous of extra attention anyway). To your point, it would really only require Tux-scum to fake some paranoia and use that to base his vote on - I'm certain he's capable of that as scum. Ultimately it's NAI for me.

I'd also add that there was nothing about my post which suggested fishing for a PR - as noted, it was simply a nod to the previous game we had shared. For what it's worth, if I was scum here I wouldn't bother fishing for PRs anyway. I played the last iteration of this setup and town managed to voluntarily spunk off all it's power roles on Day 1.

[Battle Mage]

Third Party

Doctor Drew

Good read

I mean, I can't argue that.

On the surface I like BM for town, but he seems a little more focused and less wack a doo than a previous game we had, where he was town(and I was 3p haha). I will have to skim his iso from that game, I probably just don't have enough experience with him.

People seem to be coming around as Tux as town, but I dunno. I do get a vibe that is pocketing me and I can't shake it.

You're right with the meta here, although that's not a good example of how I normally play as town. You're better off looking at Jigsaw Mafia (large theme) where I was engaged and focussed, and single-handedly cost us the game as de facto town leader, or Newbie 2009 where I was also engaged and focussed, and although my reads weren't perfect, I did help us win that game by being more of a pest than a leader. It's basically NAI, and more a function of how invested I am in the game.

On Tux, I'm decidedly neutral. Nothing about his ISO really pinged me, so nothing to interest me there currently. Nothing wrong with a pocketing on Day 1, my dude!

[Battle Mage]

Hehe it's content time boys and girls

Big townread on Deimos for stuff like 234

I'm thinking a lil fos on word is developing? Cases on ppl seemed a bit reachy for me (222 + 225) ((edit: add 351 lol))(((also jesus christ the block paragraphs with typos are hard to read)))

100000% agree with BM's 335 - do you have any slots open in that scumhunting school?
Cause of this VOTE: Marashu

Can someone who townreads votato give me a reason why (Drew, Marashu, Tuxedo)?

Also this game is a lot funnier than I first thought it was we have assembled a cast of interesting characters

Yes, due to coronavirus, we do have spaces open for this year's intake. You'll need to sit an entrance exam, but from what I've seen so far, you should be fine with this.

[Battle Mage]

an opportunity arises - we have 3 days to lynch Votato before he returns from V/LA. assuming piss shows up beforehand.

I see no good reason to do this.

I see you haven't played with votato before

I've played with him before. It's just that I have a null town read on him and would rather someone else get lynched.

Why are you still taking this seriously?

Huh. You mean I'm not supposed to? That's interesting.

The laughing emoji wasn't a clue? or the fact I was suggesting we lynch someone while they are V/LA and can't defend themselves? Come on man...

[Battle Mage]

Definitely bad feels about how the Marashu wagon got to -1, and then fell away.

I'm not sure about this progression, Mr Ikishima:

What's up?

I'd appreciate it if someone can give me an unbiased tl;dr

People be lurking.

People be V/LA

People town read Demios and Votato I think.
Marashu is scum.

VOTE: Marashu

It's self explanatory

L-1

I didn't see the hidden vote from Worchest

Honestly how long are you going to waffle and not put any thoughts down.

VOTE: Worch
It's getting to a point where you are just coasting thru it feels.

[Worcestershire]

@CJ do you prefer playing town or scum?

@Worcestershire what made that case more appealing over the cases on me, Midari, Pi, or BM?

Simpler/intuitive.

What is the purpose of including your own case among the options ?

[Worcestershire]

L-1

I didn't see the hidden vote from Worchest

Honestly how long are you going to waffle and not put any thoughts down.

VOTE: Worch
It's getting to a point where you are just coasting thru it feels.

How did you not see my vote ?

[votato]

VOTE: midari

[Midari Ikishima]

L-1

I didn't see the hidden vote from Worchest

Honestly how long are you going to waffle and not put any thoughts down.

VOTE: Worch
It's getting to a point where you are just coasting thru it feels.

How did you not see my vote ?

Phone Posting And I scrolled by it while my phone was in my hand. I'm sure you've never done that before?
Oh nevermind this is your second game or something.

Also when are you going to add something of substance? Or are we just going to coast thru? Like I said parroting people is not going to get us anywhere.

VOTE: midari

Best vote of the game. This game has way too many lurkers.

[Midari Ikishima]

Definitely bad feels about how the Marashu wagon got to -1, and then fell away.

I'm not sure about this progression, Mr Ikishima:

What's up?

I'd appreciate it if someone can give me an unbiased tl;dr

People be lurking.

People be V/LA

People town read Demios and Votato I think.
Marashu is scum.

VOTE: Marashu

It's self explanatory

L-1

I didn't see the hidden vote from Worchest

Honestly how long are you going to waffle and not put any thoughts down.

VOTE: Worch
It's getting to a point where you are just coasting thru it feels.

#1. Its Miss.
#2. Looking at Mara's ISO that I believe you posted is just bad and even in my tl;dr the faux scumhunting and being called for parroting someones reads in a previous game. Its a bit obvious.
#3. I'm blind I only have one eye. (Seriously I'm half blind I feel a lot of times.)
#4. This I wanted 4 points so here we are.

[Nash]

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Spoiler: votato

I'm actually kinda surprised why they ended up in a lot of your townpools. No RVS vote was placed (scummy), and I don't find anything in their ISO which gives me town pings either - 70% of it is just fluff. I'm gonna need someone to explain their TR here. The only vote ever placed was on superbowl, and I don't like that at all.

Spoiler: Midari

The self vote (44) is suboptimal scum play since it's anti-town and will be scrutinized at some point. I think scum!Midari would have pondered upon this, so the defensiveness in (76) gives me weak town pings (since it was only RVS). I'm not sure why she had a TR on votato at that point, and I'm not satisfied whatsoever with the justification in (139), but this behaviour pings me as town for a strange reason I don't want to discuss. I think the vote progression from this slot is pretty natural and I disagree with the implications of (392) and (411).

Spoiler: Deimos

Strikes me as the towniest so far, although some of his reads don't really resonate with mine.
In response to (62) and (145), I'm curious to hear his thoughts on vota.
What causes the townlean on superbowl and Worcestershire (237)?
Why is word suspicious?

Spoiler: Worcestershire

Placing naked votes and failing to pick up on BM's humour in (169) are probably results of a greater cognitive load, which is likelier to come from newbie scum under pressure. But I have no idea of his meta so the read is weak. Why is the slot being townread?

I'll post my reads on the rest of the playerlist later.
VOTE: votato for now.

[votato]

hmm its interesting that 3 posts after i vote midari nash somes in and defends midari and then says he hasnt seen my vote on midari and at the same time also attacks me and votes me. very hmmmm!!!

[Nash]

hmm its interesting that 3 posts after i vote midari nash somes in and defends midari and then says he hasnt seen my vote on midari and at the same time also attacks me and votes me. very hmmmm!!!

I was typing it down when you voted
I don't find your Midari vote inspiring.

[votato]

im not that inspired by your votato vote

[Nash]

VOTE: midari

What's your case?

[votato]

well my case rests primarily on midari being scum. but if that isnt enough reason for you to vote someone (FoS on you again), midari's tone/style doesnt match town!midari. more to come.

[JacksonVirgo]

VC 1.8

Marashu (4)

- Battle Mage, Deimos27, superbowl9, Worcestershire

Battle Mage (1)

- Tuxedo Mask

superbowl9 (1)

- word321

Nash (1)

- ceejayvinoya

Tuxedo Mask (2)

- Marashu, brassherald

Midari Ikishima (2)

- Doctor Drew, votato

Wocestershire (1)

- Midari Ikishima

votato (1)

- Nash

With 7 votes as hammer... Marashu is at L-3

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-07-07 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Joined Mod iso

votato V/LA from Friday to Monday
brassherald V/LA until Monday
Midari Ikishima V/LA until Tuesday

Final VC for tonight (2am here in Australia)

[votato]

Maybe I'm just biased. But the case on Tux just seems a bit reachy and nothing more then a lost person in this game which does strike as different from what I've seen from them.

I think Pii and Wors need to talk more. I agree with Brass I don't like others answering questions that aren't directed at them.


What are your other reads Tux?

basically, this is midari's best attempt at scumhunting so far. the iso is pure fluff. lots of calling people out for being inactive, but not really pressing people who are lurky or trying to coax them into being active. im still not sure about any of midaris thoughts about anyone.