Silent Star 1: Lunacy

[lilith2013]

Link to VC on this page.

I mean, I feel like I've developed decent reads on everyone who I've interacted with, so who's left? people who I haven't talked to, which is pretty much equivalent to low-content

[beeboy]

Low hanging fruit.

I think Drusilla is asking questions that I don't believe are particularly helpful for them solving people and I don't really understand the story they are trying to tell within their posts.

[midwaybear]

sometimes scum are just LHF though
not every scum will have a dominant presence in the game

[lilith2013]

I feel like that mischaracterizes my play entirely, it's not like I came out of the gate pushing low-content people, I've only come to this point after POE

[lilith2013]

that was @nahdia

[lilith2013]

beeboy and midway, can you answer my questions to you? I helpfully consolidated everything into 512

[Nahdia]

i dont know how one reads Raven' posts as disconnected when they all seem to follow a very clear progression. like, she's devoid of content, yes, but it's all rather consistent content. she outs a few scattered thoughts as the game progresses, but there are two consistent arcs:
her confusion on how to read me
and her read on votato, which she updates as she goes.

I mean, I feel like I've developed decent reads on everyone who I've interacted with, so who's left? people who I haven't talked to, which is pretty much equivalent to low-content

so you're townreading everyone you've interacted with?

[Hectic]

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Votecount 1.10

[2] Tuxedo Mask:

Clover Ebi, Morning Tweet

[2] beeboy:

Tuxedo Mask, Nahdia

[2] Nahdia:

skitter, Kanna

[2] Raven Branwen:

lilith2013, votato

[1] Dunnstral:

midwaybear

[1] lilith2013:

Dunnstral

[3] Not Voting:

drusilla, Raven Branwen, beeboy

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to throw someone down the well.
The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-10 09:18:09).

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[beeboy]

I'm mind melding with tux on his other reads and that is bothering me a lot. Outside Nahdia I think their push on me is realistic but wrong, their opening matches a 1 note DM where we agreed our old playstyle were overwelming. Neither of which make Nahdia town but they both justify what they have done.

But we both agree Kanna and MT are playing like town and we both are getting pings from Votato without overly getting a scum read. And we have similar meta pools on all 3 players. Albeit I could be giving Kanna needless space due to noughts and crosses and I may just get slapped one day because of that.

Why is it bothering you? Are you no longer scumreading Tux because his reads line up with yours?

It's not that simple. I feel like the self doubt he expressed was making me think he could just be having a rough time with bad reads. It's not the first time I've been tunneled by town for bad reasons.

I don't think he is town yet but I am moving towards being unsure because I am getting pings elsewhere from Votato and Drusilla

[lilith2013]

i dont know how one reads Raven' posts as disconnected when they all seem to follow a very clear progression. like, she's devoid of content, yes, but it's all rather consistent content. she outs a few scattered thoughts as the game progresses, but there are two consistent arcs:
her confusion on how to read me

Already mentioned that I think her confusion comes off as performative

and her read on votato, which she updates as she goes.

And I don't think the votato read/progression is a valid one. 467 is like, leading up to scumreading both votato and you. She agrees with your push on votato but questions it at the same time.

I mean, I feel like I've developed decent reads on everyone who I've interacted with, so who's left? people who I haven't talked to, which is pretty much equivalent to low-content

so you're townreading everyone you've interacted with?

No - what I mean is that I feel like the people who I still need more content from to sort are mostly in the low-content end of the playerlist. Also I feel like I've followed up with most of those people in one way or another (see 512 - this includes drusilla, MT, raven, and midway)

[midwaybear]

Spoiler:

midway, did you ever elaborate on your beeboy read and why you think he's town? has he done anything that pushes you in one direction or the other since you initially said this?

I don't think I did, but he still remains townie to me. I was understanding what he was saying in 351 about justifying reads, and he seems pretty open with what he's thinking in the moment which is hard to fake(?).

I’m with skitter on this one - nahdia didn’t seem to react to tux at all, only to beeboy’s reaction to tux, which links back to my hypothesis of scum being more at arms’ length from interactions

It's true that there wasn't really any thoughts on tux provided. I don't really think this is necessarily scum-indicative though.

What did you think beeboy’s post meant/what the intentions were behind it and did you think this post was scum-motivated?

I didn't think it was scum-motivated. I just didn't really understand it. I never really got the feeling that votato wanted to take a leadership role, so I didn't get why beeboy was calling him out for being passive.

[lilith2013]

I'm mind melding with tux on his other reads and that is bothering me a lot. Outside Nahdia I think their push on me is realistic but wrong, their opening matches a 1 note DM where we agreed our old playstyle were overwelming. Neither of which make Nahdia town but they both justify what they have done.

But we both agree Kanna and MT are playing like town and we both are getting pings from Votato without overly getting a scum read. And we have similar meta pools on all 3 players. Albeit I could be giving Kanna needless space due to noughts and crosses and I may just get slapped one day because of that.

Why is it bothering you? Are you no longer scumreading Tux because his reads line up with yours?

It's not that simple. I feel like the self doubt he expressed was making me think he could just be having a rough time with bad reads. It's not the first time I've been tunneled by town for bad reasons.

I don't think he is town yet but I am moving towards being unsure because I am getting pings elsewhere from Votato and Drusilla

What pinged you about votato? was it just the incongruency between him saying he was excited for the game and then not really taking much of a lead on pushing people?

[Nahdia]

i dont know how one reads Raven' posts as disconnected when they all seem to follow a very clear progression. like, she's devoid of content, yes, but it's all rather consistent content. she outs a few scattered thoughts as the game progresses, but there are two consistent arcs:
her confusion on how to read me

Already mentioned that I think her confusion comes off as performative

and her read on votato, which she updates as she goes.

And I don't think the votato read/progression is a valid one. 467 is like, leading up to scumreading both votato and you. She agrees with your push on votato but questions it at the same time.

I mean, I feel like I've developed decent reads on everyone who I've interacted with, so who's left? people who I haven't talked to, which is pretty much equivalent to low-content

so you're townreading everyone you've interacted with?

No - what I mean is that I feel like the people who I still need more content from to sort are mostly in the low-content end of the playerlist. Also I feel like I've followed up with most of those people in one way or another (see 512 - this includes drusilla, MT, raven, and midway)

whether or not the confusion is performative or the votato progression is invalid, it's consistent. which i point out because you referred to her posts as "disconnected". and i dont see how you could have come to that conclusion

[Nahdia]

Idk if it’s really as easy as raven/nahdia but that’s kind of where I’m at

which is it. do you need more content from our slots, or do you think we're scum?

VOTE: lilith

[midwaybear]

don't like the vote

[beeboy]

What pinged you about votato? was it just the incongruency between him saying he was excited for the game and then not really taking much of a lead on pushing people?

His town bloc pushes with both MT and Tux were very bizzare to me. Had a slimy mix of being both tactical and presented as for fun.

I just don't think it was accomplishing anything outside giving himself a safety net given he isn't working that close to either Tux or MT. Not to mention Tux was getting pinged by Votato so it doubles as a "please back off"

You don't see me appeasing to Nahdia because we are friends,I am just playing it out.

[lilith2013]

Idk if it’s really as easy as raven/nahdia but that’s kind of where I’m at

which is it. do you need more content from our slots, or do you think we're scum?

VOTE: lilith

.... can’t it be both?

[votato]

i still feel like ive been very aggressive compared to my normal page 20 self.
midway, please provide your reads.

[lilith2013]

@Dunn, what makes you think Skitter’s posting is “fake”?
I don’t understand Nadhia at all.

@Votato, what is so scummy about Clover not having any confident scumreads early on D1?

these 3 lines are about completely separate things - so I don't see a coherent thought process behind this post.

[lilith2013]

The more I read from this game, the more confused I get. I’m liking Votato a bit better now but I still don’t understand why Clover is his #1 scumread.

I have 0 experience with Lillith but nothing she’s posting is particularly pinging me.

Anyone here have meta on Nadhia? I’m having the most trouble trying to parse her.

@Dunn, can you please answer my Skitter question? Thanks.

And thanks @mod for preventing me from undue eyestrain.

Also these

[lilith2013]

Nahdia, I'm arguing that each of her posts, taken individually, doesn't make sense to me and I don't understand how she comes up with a post with this many different things going on that don't seem to be connected.

[midwaybear]

lilith, beeboy, votato, mt are probably town
kanna seems legit
nahdia, skitter, clover, tux have a good amount of posts but I may have not been paying attention
idk about drusilla and raven
dunnstral is probably scum

[votato]

not only does each post not seem to be coherent, but the overall pattern of posting is not much better. things are being said, but those things dont really say anything.

[votato]

lilith, beeboy, votato, mt are probably town
kanna seems legit
nahdia, skitter, clover, tux have a good amount of posts but I may have not been paying attention
idk about drusilla and raven
dunnstral is probably scum

did i already ask you how your read on me progressed? because i remember you scumreading me. im pretty sure i asked, but did you answer?
also saying: "nahdia, skitter, clover, tux have a good amount of posts but I may have not been paying attention" is not a read. that says nothing about whether you think theyre scum or not.

[Clover Ebi]

Am I missing out on why Kanna is townread cause I'd love to be clued in. I think it's hard to gauge Ravens 466 without knowing exactly where she was during the catch up. Being disconnected/having a dif viewpoint isn't scummy it's how you present it that should be what you're looking at.