Large Normal 228: Bananas - Game Over

[gobbledygook]

VC 3.4

NorwegianboyEE

ManateeDude (5) - Titus, Almost50, NorwegianBoyEE, SirCakez, Dr Easy Bake ( )

Almost50 (1) - LuckyLuciano
fwogcarf
Titus
LuckyLuciano
SirCakez
Dr Easy Bake

Not Voting

(2) ManateeDude, fwogcarf,

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to remove from the town.

JacksonVirgo replaces fwogcarf!
Adorable replaces SirCakez!
I apologize for my crappy modding. Thank you all for your patience.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-07-07 10:00:00)[/color]

ManateeDude,

Vanilla Townie

, has been removed from the town Day 3!

Night 3 ends in (expired on 2020-07-06 14:00:00)!

[gobbledygook]

Adorable,

Vanilla Townie

, has been killed Night 3!
Dr Easy Bake,

Mafia Goon

, has been killed Night 3!

Day 4 starts now!

VC 4.0

NorwegianboyEE
Almost50
JacksonVirgo
Titus
LuckyLuciano

Not Voting

(5) NorwegianboyEE, Almost50, JacksonVirgo, Titus, LuckyLuciano

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to remove from the town.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-07-17 11:00:00)[/color]

[JacksonVirgo]

Howdy currently in hospital but I’ll get to catching up ASAP. I got to like page 35 I think during the night

[JacksonVirgo]

This is possibly LyLo so I’m not gonna vote rn but from pages up to 30 Titus is on my SR list

[JacksonVirgo]

Second would be lucky though I haven’t got up to the bit where puppy replaced out and lucky back in

Of course not voting yet

[LuckyLuciano]

Titus is literally an innocent child.

[LuckyLuciano]

We're in 3v1v1.

[Titus]

Vla until the 10th

[LuckyLuciano]

The flips pretty much confirm A50 as the final mafia. If he's town, then mafia chose to double bus Drew over eliminating Manatee, who we now know is town, D1. It also explains why Nahdia's WIM drastically dropped after the Drew elimination. She was playing the game solo. I don't think she'd be so demotivated if the two main wagons {Wake, Cakez}, were both town. Instead she had a wagon on her teammate, and a wagon on town that was painted such that if he's town, she's gotta be scum.

So who is SK between Fwog (JV) and Norwegian? I'm going to look back into Cakez's case against Norwegian in a bit.

[JacksonVirgo]

Titus is literally an innocent child.

Oh? Alright

[JacksonVirgo]

We're in 3v1v1.

Alright so we are in lylo

[JacksonVirgo]

The flips pretty much confirm A50 as the final mafia. If he's town, then mafia chose to double bus Drew over eliminating Manatee, who we now know is town, D1. It also explains why Nahdia's WIM drastically dropped after the Drew elimination. She was playing the game solo. I don't think she'd be so demotivated if the two main wagons {Wake, Cakez}, were both town. Instead she had a wagon on her teammate, and a wagon on town that was painted such that if he's town, she's gotta be scum.

So who is SK between Fwog (JV) and Norwegian? I'm going to look back into Cakez's case against Norwegian in a bit.

Can I ask why A50 is confirmed mafia or whatever

[LuckyLuciano]

NorwegianBoyEE (1) - Drew-STA

ManateeDude (1) - SirCakez

Drew-Sta (8)

-

osuka, ManateeDude, Umlaut, Titus,

NorwegianboyEE,

Fenraiser, bob3141,

Nahdia

[L-0]

SirCakez (1)

- CantLynchAPuppy

Nahdia (1)

-

Black Ranger

Not Voting (1) -

Wake88

Wake = A50
Nahdia = Dr Easy Bake
Puppy = Lucky
Fwog = You

Manatee was pretty much the elimination D1. Last second Umlaut redirected to Drew, (If you are still reading this Umlaut, you're a hero). There was a decent chance that the day would end in a no elimination due to time running out once the original wagon splintered. Nahdia was in a bad spot in that she was actually around EoD and couldn't justify not voting and getting a flip. So either Norwegian and Nahdia

both

decided to dip their toes into the EoD water and help eliminate their buddy, or one mafia was off-wagon.

Also, apparently the mod missed Fwog's last vote D1 and he's nowhere on the original EoD VC. He was off-wagon on Cakez. Now this changes things. I guess I need to look back at the voting off-wagon discussion D2 and see if Nahdia ever supported the idea without mentioning Fwog being missing from the VC. Mafia would know how their buddies are positioned and wouldn't have missed that her buddy was being conveniently excluded from the elimination pool at that point. I don't remember her supporting eliminating off-wagon, but it's worth a check.

[Titus]

Based on a cursory view of the wagons, I like an EE lynch.

Please don't just sheep me because lylo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am VLA until 10th July. But might make some posts if i get the chance.

[Almost50]

This is possibly LyLo so I’m not gonna vote rn but from pages up to 30 Titus is on my SR list

Lamest fake slip I have ever seen in quite a while.

And with SC gone I am left with no TRs (except for Titus, of course).

In fact, I feel like Terminating JV still for that fake slip.

[Almost50]

Second would be lucky though I haven’t got up to the bit where puppy replaced out and lucky back in

Of course not voting yet

Also this pretension of worry about TLo is like... we are 3-1-1, so a vote on anyone isn't going to get them quick hammered, and if it did then GL dodging the "other scum's" bullet.

[Almost50]

Please don't just sheep me because lylo.

Well, I'm not gonna fight you either. I shall thus stay put to see if anything changes.

[LuckyLuciano]

I like A50's line here. Gotta double check what content was posted by page 30 to verify if JV would not know there's an SK, but even if he skipped the OP, Titus being IC was a talking point due to players voting her in RVS. I don't buy that he could have genuinely scumread her. Also pretty sure that part of Puppy's dispute with Titus was due to her not being more open with her reads as IC.

[LuckyLuciano]

My initial take on the day was to eliminate Norwegian and sort between A50/JV after. Then I started to believe that A50 was confmafia, but realizing the D1 EoD vote count was incorrect and that Fwog was off-wagon puts a dent in that theory. I need to look back at associations.

Thoughts on the night kills? DEB was the SK kill and Cakez was the mafia kill. Mafia probably avoided Titus hoping that SK would kill them. Why Cakez though?

[Titus]

We're in 3v1v1.

Alright so we are in lylo

We could be in 3 v 2 as well. Either way, lylo.

[LuckyLuciano]

I feel like 2 2-player mafias would be incredibly weak and townsided. It does make a difference to clarify that, for reading associatives and SK vs Mafia behavior.

[Almost50]

We're in 3v1v1.

Alright so we are in lylo

We could be in 3 v 2 as well. Either way, lylo.

I guess. Although there's a major difference in that if a miss-termination occurs we would still have a shot in a 2-1-1 situation provided both sides shoot each other, while in a 2-2 would instantly end the game.

However, my biggest argument of it being Mafia + SK is that both flipped Mafia had no hint in their PMs about them being primary/secondary or red/blue team. Then again, if could be Mafia + WWs and the mod decided to not differentiate between kill flavours because NORMAL GAME RULES, so not totally ruling it out.

[LuckyLuciano]

Is SK explicitly BP in normal games?

[LuckyLuciano]

Double-checking here, SKs don't have to be BP in normals. Care to explain how you

know

the SK is BP, A50?