Redneck Mafia GAME OVER PARTNER!

[TemporalLich]

what's wrong with refusing to let a strong associative slide?

It's not a strong associative at this point though, it's an outright claim unless I've missed my guess

I mean now it's a claim but it wasn't before and it made Pooky look like Pooky/DGB are co-aligned

[TemporalLich]

granted, I believe Pooky/DGB to be 300% co-aligned now, and think Pooky is town based on benefit of the doubt and thus DGB is town based on induction

[TemporalLich]

I really want to do a lead rist as it will anchor my feelings... but if I am at risk of being quickhammered it isn't worth it

[username]

Oh for gods sake just do a read list nobody's gonna quickhammer you dude

[chkflip]

They didn't have to "admit" anything about the gif posting dude. They announced in the signups before role PMs that they'd be doing that.

Bold of you to assume I read a signup thread.

[username]

Like, I like that even less than if you just did one


"Ohhhh what if I get quickhammered for sharing my reads" like, you should be sharing reads anyway, no matter how many or how few you have

And if anyone says AHAHA LOOK AT THEM SHITTY READS and quickhammers you, we punish them by sending them to join you in hell

[chkflip]

Wait how many votes are they at? I've only seen three.

[username]

They didn't have to "admit" anything about the gif posting dude. They announced in the signups before role PMs that they'd be doing that.

Bold of you to assume I read a signup thread.

I didn't assume any such thing, I was explicitly informing you of something that's been pointed out several times during a time period that you aren't reading


Like I get not wanting to read from before replacing in, cause I don't do it either. And I didn't join via the signup thread I was invited by FG.

So the point of my post is to inform you that you're retreading ground the rest of us have been over.

[username]

Wait how many votes are they at? I've only seen three.

No clue but I'm trying not to scare them away and to get them to share some reads instead of worrying about magic quick lynches

[TemporalLich]

I'm compiling a lead rist rn, I doubt it will do much but it will at least finally give me a good vote hopefully

[chkflip]

Oh word. Much obliged.

[TemporalLich]

here's a quick lead rist, don't send me to the aether if it's wrong because I skimmed everyone's ISO for this:

TR

TL

NT

HN

NS

SL

SR

3P

[Town]

DrippingGoofball

- Has a claimed inno by Pooky, no reason to doubt said inno as of now.

Logicalicaltist

- With great pushing and town initiative this is the townie we need.

PookyTheMagicalBear

- The GIFposting reduces content but I have a feeling the informed claim is true so I am putting this at townlean level.

Almost50

- Still seems like his towny self, but I have a feeling A50 is more reserved here.

chkflip

- He's starting to look more promising as time goes on...

pisskop

- Memey but an ISO skim looked content-rich.

Iecerint

- A decently good ISO, 423 is probably a good post.

Lavender

- Not much content in the ISO but I feel a townish vibe.

Alchemist21

- Claimed townsiding 3P, I don't have a reason to doubt this.

username

- I'm not sure what impression I get from the ISO. At least it's content-rich.

Pine

- Unreadable due to lack of game-related info, defaulting to hard null (assuming V/LAishness here)

gobbledygook

- Lurker with contentless ISO, 126 is approaching info but actually isn't info

Doctor Drew

- Memey, totally not concerned with appearances. However his content looks a little scummy.

Elsa Jay

- I don't like the ISO. Sorry, but I just don't. It doesn't ping me town.

Vecna

- I really don't like the ISO, the readlist is bad in light of future info and 696 feels abrasive to me

[Scum]

VOTE: Vecna

[username]

username - I'm not sure what impression I get from the ISO. At least it's content-rich.

great, i'm "content rich"

further proof that my attempt to make a low-effort alt has absolutely failed

[username]

I go back and forth with Drew in my head between wanting the slot dead and thinking it looks okay

I can't read Vecna for shit and I always think it looks at least a little scummy, maybe it's a playstyle clash. I think Vecna's been mostly okay tho tbh

can you elaborate why you don't like Vecna? And please don't use "abrasive" or "aggressive" as scumtells, because I'm absolutely the last person on this site that you'll ever convince of the idea that hostility or abrasion is scummy

[username]

696 doesn't even look abrasive to me, and I read emotion better than almost anyone on the site

it just more looks annoyed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

696 feels abrasive to me

[TemporalLich]

I go back and forth with Drew in my head between wanting the slot dead and thinking it looks okay

I can't read Vecna for shit and I always think it looks at least a little scummy, maybe it's a playstyle clash. I think Vecna's been mostly okay tho tbh

can you elaborate why you don't like Vecna? And please don't use "abrasive" or "aggressive" as scumtells, because I'm absolutely the last person on this site that you'll ever convince of the idea that hostility or abrasion is scummy

Vecna has really weird thoughtstreams that don't seem towny. Tried declaring scum in RVS for one, somehow did a 180 on me, really doesn't want nullreads for some reason, has a weird scumread on PK, and made a annoyed/abrasive post when he didn't like the conclusions people (mostly me) were drawing from Pooky.

I don't think Vecna is town, and the mostly pure thoughtstreams show this.

And I consider abrasiveness negative charisma.

[username]

And I consider abrasiveness negative charisma.

but that isn't alignment indicative, or I'd be scum in every single game ever

you might want to rethink that position going forward, it's holding you back from being the best mafia player you can be

[TemporalLich]

yeah I'm still not a high elo mafia player yet, I still don't have a calibrated list of scumtells

[TemporalLich]

but I thought charisma was good for town, and thus town-AI

[username]

There are other types of charisma besides friendly likeability

There's that, but there's also a strong leadership charisma. A menacing intimidation charisma. A quiet endearing charisma.

Charisma is anything that draws people to you and rallies them behind you, whether you use your charisma to invoke pity, fear, or friendship.

And there are players that lack any such charisma. These meek wallflowers are followers, they look for a leader to bond themselves to. And there's nothing wrong with that-- both leader and follower have their place, as well as their drawbacks. These are the players who find themselves upset in post game because they figured out the entire scumteam and nobody helped them lynch it.

And sometimes you have your natural personality clashes. Not everyone responds to the same type of charisma the same way. As someone who spread more than his share (and most peoples share) of hostility in games, not everyone responds by getting behind you. This goes whatever form your personal charisma takes. Sometimes, people simply don't respond.

[username]

yeah I'm still not a high elo mafia player yet, I still don't have a calibrated list of scumtells

I've been playing this game for thirteen years and I can count on one hand the number of things I'd consider solid scumtells. You learn to read people's intent rather than look for tells because A- scum can manipulate what you consider strong tells, B- Eventually your tell will fail you because you placed too much stock into a personality tick, and C- learning to judge personalities rather than checking off a list of tells is a far more sustainable play style

[TemporalLich]

in that case I still feel like Vecna's thoughtstreams say scum

[Logicalicaltist]

Dude.
They admitted they are informed of DGB.
The “Bolded” feels weird to me.
It’s like you don’t want to scum read them so you say “oh maybe they are Town I can’t read them don’t mind me”.

I'm not entirely willing to let go that it may be a town gambit. They've also "admitted" that the gif thing isn't a post restriction (though piss says this was covered so /shrug) so excuse me if I take what the slot is saying with a grain of salt. Idk what else I could say here.

They

Literally

mentioned they were only going to use GiF’s This game.
I reminded everyone of it.
You sir, clearly haven’t been reading the thread.

[Logicalicaltist]

Dude.
They admitted they are informed of DGB.
The “Bolded” feels weird to me.
It’s like you don’t want to scum read them so you say “oh maybe they are Town I can’t read them don’t mind me”.

I'm not entirely willing to let go that it may be a town gambit. They've also "admitted" that the gif thing isn't a post restriction (though piss says this was covered so /shrug) so excuse me if I take what the slot is saying with a grain of salt. Idk what else I could say here.

They didn't have to "admit" anything about the gif posting dude. They announced in the signups before role PMs that they'd be doing that.

Which I’ve stated previously before.