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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:49 pm

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In post 722, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If C9++
Err excuse me I had like a thousand posts that game or something?

This is a somewhat reliable way to read me btw, but it’s more reliable over the course of a game, I can normally make myself effort the early game and then I burn out late D1 or on D2 and go quiet before picking up again in endgame
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:49 pm

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Also I don’t think I ever rolled scum against you in a newbie @norwee?
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 726, Menalque wrote:Also I don’t think I ever rolled scum against you in a newbie @norwee?
That one where you replaced out immediately.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:51 pm

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I’m giving ali an honorary “skitter pass” meaning that I will temporarily townread em despite not townreading em
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:51 pm

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In post 727, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 726, Menalque wrote:Also I don’t think I ever rolled scum against you in a newbie @norwee?
That one where you replaced out immediately.
Oh, that was illness, that really shouldn’t be considered representative of my meta. That probably would have been a high effort game if I hadn’t gotten ill
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:53 pm

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In post 722, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think you both are quite easy to read for me at this point tbh, and i'm ready to just settle on both of you being town.
If C9++ and that newbie game i had with Mena are any indication then he is lazy as scum. Here he actually efforts.
Alisae mostly agenda posts as scum, not what they're doing here.
jezz its scary how quickly ur learning to read me >_<
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:54 pm

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I'd like to think you're just complimenting me honestly, but that gave me a bit of goose skin not gonna lie.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:55 pm

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In post 724, Something_Smart wrote:Okay I reread your plan in (nice, btw). I think that a world where the tomboy daughter gets a majority vote, official or unofficial, is not a world we're winning in anyway. Letting NK15 veto executions might work but it probably won't? If we did, he'd have to come up with the right percentage of the time to randomly veto a non-daughter execution (probably 1/15).

Your plan doesn't fix the main problem, which is the chance of the daughter being caught with tea (or equivalently, the chance that NK has to reject an inspection because the daughter is on it). That chance should be zero. Not sure whether inspecting one or two people is best, but either way NK should have full control over who is inspected. Inspecting someone who is likely tomorrow's execution isn't really bad because like I said if that person is the daughter, we were in hot water anyway.
Okay but mechanics are boring and so I’m happy to let others try to solve the question of how we split resources and what we do about inspections

I think this setup is highly scumsided (my suspicion) so I’m kind of not expecting to win that much

The main thing is: is NK choosing between the two scummiest people on each day the best way to avoid lynching the tomboy daughter without giving info on their identity? Which should be doable so long as NK doesn’t give out reads and thereby indicate whether he actively chose one person > the other or because he flipped a coin. If this isn’t the best way to solve the lynching part of the problem, what is?
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:55 pm

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good
my intimidation tactics are working
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:56 pm

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Oh for Christ’s fucking sake
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:57 pm

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In post 725, Menalque wrote:Err excuse me I had like a thousand posts that game or something?
Also there's something to be said about the difference between tons of posts VS effort. They aren't always mutually exclusive imo.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:57 pm

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In post 732, Menalque wrote:
In post 724, Something_Smart wrote:Okay I reread your plan in (nice, btw). I think that a world where the tomboy daughter gets a majority vote, official or unofficial, is not a world we're winning in anyway. Letting NK15 veto executions might work but it probably won't? If we did, he'd have to come up with the right percentage of the time to randomly veto a non-daughter execution (probably 1/15).

Your plan doesn't fix the main problem, which is the chance of the daughter being caught with tea (or equivalently, the chance that NK has to reject an inspection because the daughter is on it). That chance should be zero. Not sure whether inspecting one or two people is best, but either way NK should have full control over who is inspected. Inspecting someone who is likely tomorrow's execution isn't really bad because like I said if that person is the daughter, we were in hot water anyway.
Okay but mechanics are boring and so I’m happy to let others try to solve the question of how we split resources and what we do about inspections

I think this setup is highly scumsided (my suspicion) so I’m kind of not expecting to win that much

The main thing is: is NK choosing between the two scummiest people on each day the best way to avoid executing the tomboy daughter without giving info on their identity? Which should be doable so long as NK doesn’t give out reads and thereby indicate whether he actively chose one person > the other or because he flipped a coin. If this isn’t the best way to solve the executing part of the problem, what is?
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:59 pm

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In post 735, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 725, Menalque wrote:Err excuse me I had like a thousand posts that game or something?
Also there's something to be said about the difference between tons of posts VS effort. They aren't always mutually exclusive imo.
I high efforted that game! I counter claimed skitter as a vig and then retracted and then spent a LONG ASS TIME pushing the execution of neither of the claimed cops while somehow not becoming obvscum for doing so! That was very clearly a game where I efforted! It’s like my 4th most efforted scumgame!
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:59 pm

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Also we won!!!
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:00 pm

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People just keep talking shit on my scumgame and then losing to me as scum or TRing me and it’s just a big fucking sigh
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:00 pm

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maybe you should channel that energy into this game so you could win this towngame >_>
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:00 pm

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Like yes, I enjoy town much more and yes it’s a slog when I roll scum but like, my scum record is actually pretty impressive and I feel like that hardly ever gets acknowledged
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:02 pm

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mena don't get ahead of yourself
u still got a lot to learn and if I can figure out you were scum by the end of d1 in TM then you still got a ways to go
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:02 pm

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In post 740, Alisae wrote:maybe you should channel that energy into this game so you could win this towngame >_>
I’m trying but Maki did have a point and I’m already at 125 posts and while I’m ready to get some votes on notscience and maxwell and get some blood flowing from a good ole guillotine I’m not sure everyone else is, and I’m trying not to drown the thread too hard with my posting
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:04 pm

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In post 743, Menalque wrote:Maki did have a point and I’m already at 125 posts
who cares
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:07 pm

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In post 736, Menalque wrote:is NK choosing between the two scummiest people on each day the best way to avoid executing the tomboy daughter without giving info on their identity?
The only way to avoid executing the tomboy daughter without giving any information away is for NK to randomize something to execute. The more randomness involved, the less information we give away. So if we offer up two and NK randomly picks one, that's twice as good as if we just execute one and pray.

... Except that the one who survived is not going to disappear from people's radars, and the above effect becomes weaker the more times someone survives being on the stand. The net effect is it either screws up our scumhunting by forcing us to treat the scummiest living player as conftown, or it makes us jump through a lot of hoops for a benefit that's not nearly as great as it seems.
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:08 pm

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Hadn't liked something Norwegian had said earlier but I liked his posts on page 25.

From Datisi is a bad post.

"scum may spam to hide things they don't want seen." in from titus is a very silly notion but it probably means she's town.

S_S's intro is meh. I really really really dislike that he put all his effort into talking about mechanics with no commentary on anyone in the game when there's plenty of material to go off.
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It wasn't actually a gotcha, I wanted to know if you were confident you could easily read Datisi or were talking out your ass (and honestly, you might've been on to something).

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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:10 pm

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In post 743, Menalque wrote:I’m trying not to drown the thread too hard with my posting
You're too late for that.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:10 pm

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In post 742, Alisae wrote:mena don't get ahead of yourself
u still got a lot to learn and if I can figure out you were scum by the end of d1 in TM then you still got a ways to go
In post 1984, Alisae wrote:also, I don't think anyone in my townbloc is to worry
maybe Mena but I don't think so.
Also no offence but even if you did figure it out N1 after that I’m pretty sure you weren’t winning if you tried to force it 1v1 on D2

And that’s a game where I was burned out for rolling scum
immediately
after GnR where I managed the entire scumteam fairly heavily and was not trying that hard. Like if I hadn’t been burned out I probably wouldn’t have bussed or if I had it would have looked better than it did (and it looked good enough that basically the entire thread townread me end of D1 and mastics TR me so hard she tried to masonize me) so
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:12 pm

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oh do not underestimate my ability to kill someone
i am very comptent at lynching people i will have u know
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