Grand Idea GPick [Game Over]

[Chateau Lobby]

i really don't wanna follow 'the cop' on someone who open wolfed (alien'd?) and previously lied about alien information

Someone gets its. Give me hope please.

VOTE: Porkens

[Iconeum]

VOTE: porkens

[Iconeum]

too many lies and i don't feel porkens has justified it with them being 'gambits' as i don't see anything pro town in them

[Morning Tweet]

[The running theory is that Chateau is a werewolf, yes? haven't found any werewolf roles that fit the bill yet sadly. But i think by VCA chateau didn't make sense as a mafia, if i recall correctly]

Why are people still ignoring the fact that Porksn claimed to be an alien with no other aliens in the game?

Then suddenly, WE DO HAVE aliens. I liked this site so much better when people stuck to the lgl policy. I get this is a game of deception but principal should still stand.

Ok I was roleblocked, good to know.

I lied about rolling through alien reroll sympathizer. I was alien fishing. I initially thought I caught one with hellbooks. But then she claimed role cop.

Now I understand why hellbooks was herself looking for aliens: she knew they are in the game.

And this, I believe, is the alien: viewtopic.php?p=6318346#p6318346

VOTE: titus

It's just the one thing that irks me the most in this game. Getting lynched while no one believes you. Then tomorrow will come and people will just shy away from Porkens again and its just super frustrating.


Sorry for ranting, these things just build up and lead to my implosion, I'm working on it.

[I'm more bothered by his werewolf claim yesterday than the alien claim earlier in the game. So he's trying to trick both remaining scum to nightkill the same person or something? I don't exactly get what the town benefit to telling the scum he was gonna kill Ico was. Wouldnt it make more sense to tell the other person who to kill?]

[Knowing Ico is town makes me more inclined to vote Pork. Plus CL's reaction is pretty good. I can't be sure that farside/TSE are both town. I do NOT understand how starbuck survived the d1 lynch]

[however! there was no kill last night. And if Pork is the last scum, no-killing there and getting Chateau exiled doesnt win him the game. So why was there no kill other than maybe cuz of a roleblock?]

[unofficial VC]
Chateau Lobby (3) - Porkens, farside22, TrueSoulEnergy [E-1]
Porkens (2) - Chateau Lobby, Iconeum [E-2]

[Chateau Lobby]

[however! there was no kill last night. And if Pork is the last scum, no-killing there and getting Chateau exiled doesnt win him the game. So why was there no kill other than maybe cuz of a roleblock?]

[unofficial VC]
Chateau Lobby (3) - Porkens, farside22, TrueSoulEnergy [E-1]
Porkens (2) - Chateau Lobby, Iconeum [E-2]

Well, Pork could be an alien himself. And since assuming that Titus loverized and killed a couple night backs would mean there are no more alien factional kills since titus' role PM says that aliens can only kill once.

[Porkens]

CL: What that I said are you claiming was direction from me to you to vote for TSE?

The only 2 lies were rolling through alien reroll sympathizer and that I would kill iconeum. Both were explained but again; There was alien talk early in the game, way before I replaced in. I saw an opportunity to flush out any aliens and I took it. I ran interference in the event A) that looker flipped orange town and B) on the off chance there were two scum left anyway.

Boring checked Bingle, and went from a scum read to a townread over night because of it.
I killed drew there is no CC to that.
I doc'd Bingle and there was fewer kills that night.
I RB'd CL and there was no kill.

My claim up because it's true. CL is scum here.

[Chateau Lobby]

CL: What that I said are you claiming was direction from me to you to vote for TSE?

....

Chetau's line towards TSE calling it a slip while voting me don't mesh.

[Porkens]

[however! there was no kill last night. And if Pork is the last scum, no-killing there and getting Chateau exiled doesnt win him the game. So why was there no kill other than maybe cuz of a roleblock?]

[unofficial VC]
Chateau Lobby (3) - Porkens, farside22, TrueSoulEnergy [E-1]
Porkens (2) - Chateau Lobby, Iconeum [E-2]

Well, Pork could be an alien himself. And since assuming that Titus loverized and killed a couple night backs would mean there are no more alien factional kills since titus' role PM says that aliens can only kill once.

You voted for me while calling out TSE for a slip. I pointed that out to illustrate your self-contradiction.

[Chateau Lobby]

[however! there was no kill last night. And if Pork is the last scum, no-killing there and getting Chateau exiled doesnt win him the game. So why was there no kill other than maybe cuz of a roleblock?]

[unofficial VC]
Chateau Lobby (3) - Porkens, farside22, TrueSoulEnergy [E-1]
Porkens (2) - Chateau Lobby, Iconeum [E-2]

Well, Pork could be an alien himself. And since assuming that Titus loverized and killed a couple night backs would mean there are no more alien factional kills since titus' role PM says that aliens can only kill once.

You voted for me while calling out TSE for a slip. I pointed that out to illustrate your self-contradiction.

Since when are we not allowed to SR more than 1 person?

[Porkens]

I didn't say you weren't, but I don't recall you expressing a 2-scum-left opinion at that time, and it looked like flailing for an 'anyone but me' counter wagon.

[Chateau Lobby]

I didn't say you weren't, but I don't recall you expressing a 2-scum-left opinion at that time, and it looked like flailing for an 'anyone but me' counter wagon.

I never made any assumptions about the number of remaining scum. I still don't. With multiple factions confirmed there could be more than 2, maybe even 3-4 scum alive.

[TemporalLich]

VC 7.2

Chateau Lobby (3) - Porkens, TrueSoulEnergy, farside22 [

E-1

]

Porkens (2) - Chateau Lobby, Iconeum [E-2]

Not voting: Morning Tweet

With 6 alive it takes 4 to eliminate.

Day 7 will end in (expired on 2020-07-14 05:20:00) or when an elimination is reached.

[Iconeum]

if the game isn't over after we lynch porkens, and there's a night kill

we can kill CL i guess

[Porkens]

and your 100% townread of TSE is based on...?

[Iconeum]

and your 100% townread of TSE is based on...?

if you don't give at least a semi-decent explanation for your fake claiming shenanigans wrt aliens and your EoD actions last day i'm pushing your lynch

[Iconeum]

porkens how do you explain the lack of a nightkill?

[Iconeum]

because as far as i know, you called a roleblock last night on CL while you were one-shotted already so??

[TrueSoulEnergy]

If CL isn’t Werewolf then I think Farside is that had an ability to save their buddy.

Why do you label me as Werewolf and not alien or MAFIA?

2 Alien.
2 Mafia.
1 Werewolf.
Where’s the other Werewolf?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

if the game isn't over after we lynch porkens, and there's a night kill

we can kill CL i guess

No I refuse.
As I also think Farside is full of BS.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Farside’s Claim is legit fake.

[Iconeum]

Farside’s Claim is legit fake.

ok what do you mean exactly?

[farside22]

[The running theory is that Chateau is a werewolf, yes? haven't found any werewolf roles that fit the bill yet sadly. But i think by VCA chateau didn't make sense as a mafia, if i recall correctly]

Why are people still ignoring the fact that Porksn claimed to be an alien with no other aliens in the game?

Then suddenly, WE DO HAVE aliens. I liked this site so much better when people stuck to the lgl policy. I get this is a game of deception but principal should still stand.

Ok I was roleblocked, good to know.

I lied about rolling through alien reroll sympathizer. I was alien fishing. I initially thought I caught one with hellbooks. But then she claimed role cop.

Now I understand why hellbooks was herself looking for aliens: she knew they are in the game.

And this, I believe, is the alien: viewtopic.php?p=6318346#p6318346

VOTE: titus

It's just the one thing that irks me the most in this game. Getting lynched while no one believes you. Then tomorrow will come and people will just shy away from Porkens again and its just super frustrating.


Sorry for ranting, these things just build up and lead to my implosion, I'm working on it.

[I'm more bothered by his werewolf claim yesterday than the alien claim earlier in the game. So he's trying to trick both remaining scum to nightkill the same person or something? I don't exactly get what the town benefit to telling the scum he was gonna kill Ico was. Wouldnt it make more sense to tell the other person who to kill?]

[Knowing Ico is town makes me more inclined to vote Pork. Plus CL's reaction is pretty good. I can't be sure that farside/TSE are both town. I do NOT understand how starbuck survived the d1 lynch]

[however! there was no kill last night. And if Pork is the last scum, no-killing there and getting Chateau exiled doesnt win him the game. So why was there no kill other than maybe cuz of a roleblock?]

[unofficial VC]
Chateau Lobby (3) - Porkens, farside22, TrueSoulEnergy [E-1]
Porkens (2) - Chateau Lobby, Iconeum [E-2]

Tse could be lyncher or mafia with info. I mean he didn't claim till day 2 about bm so he could be rc scum or informed townie.
As for why i vote cl is for this exact reason. I cant fathom no kills unless there is a cult in the game. No one flipped so far though supports that idea.

[farside22]

Farside’s Claim is legit fake.

So why sb lynch proof day 1 if im lying?

[Porkens]

porkens how do you explain the lack of a nightkill?

because as far as i know, you called a roleblock last night on CL while you were one-shotted already so??

When I replaced in I caught up on the thread. ALIENS were brought up two or three times. First in a sort of jokey way, then in a semi-firm kinda accusatory way, and then it just sort of fizzled out. I did some research in the GI thread found the alien reroll sympathizer, and saw an opportunity to rattle the cages of any aliens that were actually in the game.

After majority yesterday, while I was fairly confident that Looker was some flavor of scum, I was also worried about coordination between remaining scum, and so I made up a scenario to run interference. It was all pretty last minute as it was late in the night, and I knew I'd have to explain in the morning if I were still alive. It was also possible that I'd catch a nightkill for it if any remaining scum wanted a solo victory or if there were multiple scum left that had already coordinated in the thread. Since I'm spent of all usefulness anyway, I thought it was worth the risk. I announced my intention to kill iconeum hedging on the margin that scum did go along with my "plan" we would still have a clear.

I roleblocked CL last night; and that's why I think there was no NK. Of course there may be another scum that holstered, or another alien, but I think the simplest explanation is the former.

I started the game with 4 one-shot abilities. The one-shotizer made my abilities one-shot redundantly so there was a net zero effect.

I have a very narrow pool of remaining scum candidates, and CL is at the top.

[Porkens]

If CL isn’t Werewolf then I think Farside is that had an ability to save their buddy.

Why do you label me as Werewolf and not alien or MAFIA?

2 Alien.
2 Mafia.
1 Werewolf.
Where’s the other Werewolf?

Farside’s Claim is legit fake.

Why are you sure it's 2, 2, 2 and not 2, 2, 1, 1 or 3, 2, 1 or any other configuration?

Have you found a scum effort-saver in the GD thread?