Open 785: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Game over!]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.11

Mohab500

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(2):

Umlaut (88), RCEnigma (238)

Menalque

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(2):

HoldenGolden (129), Ydrasse (182)

RCEnigma

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(2):

Eevee (292), Menalque (296)

Ydrasse

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(1):

Fredrick A Campbell (277)

HoldenGolden

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(1):

Raya36 (21)

Fredrick A Campbell

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(1):

Snowblaze (290)

Not Voting

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(4):

Sujimichi, Chemist1422, Mohab500 (51), Homura (235)

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-14 12:17:59).

[RCEnigma]

I've played with RCEnigma two-ish times and he seems very different.

Fwiw I don't think Frederick is with snow or ydrasse. Feel less strongly about Frederick not being with menalque.

Strongly believe menalque is not with snow or ydrasse since I know that he would know this is an anti-bus setup.

It seems a bit early to look for partners, no? And I think these conclusions come from very mild shade; not sure they mean much.

~Eva

The last 3-4 times this was used as a base argument against me have all been wrong. Links available if necessary but I see you're already falling into a bias.

I don't know how eliminating pairings is shady.

For the most part I'm not a huge fan of pre flip pairings, but I'm also not going to ignore interactions that I feel provide context for more informed hunting.

[RCEnigma]

Frederick comes off genuine. Didn't really think claiming there was no day talk to discredit Mohab made much sense in the first place.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Frederick comes off genuine. Didn't really think claiming there was no day talk to discredit Mohab made much sense in the first place.

I don't think the post quoted below was discrediting anyone.

Bear with me since I rarely play setups besides the Newbie one, but is Holden being post-restricted? I don't remember which game it was that had a player similarly bound by pirate-speak.

in contrast to Mohab's setup question - this i like

Homura usually plays newbie games and she's apparently played in game where a player had a pirate speak post restriction before so this is a legitimate question to ask
it being a legitimate question means she could've asked it in her scum PT or not suspected it in the first place if scum have said soemthing about the open setup in there

it's minor High Seas points to Homura - let's just say 1 actually i don't do halves

~Eve

I would like to point out that mafia doesn't have daytalk and Homura thus couldn't have asked it in the scum PT. Also, scum might not have said anything about the open setup in there, causing what we observed.

[northsidegal]

Prodding Homura and Sujimichi. Ydrasse is on V/LA and thus will not receive an official prod, but will receive a reminder to post.

[Snowblaze]

UNVOTE: Fredrick A Campbell, since that remark apparently wasn't a scumslip. Not sure who to vote for next; I'm slightly concerned I may have too many townreads.

[Ydrasse]

hello i have finally decided to try and dig my claws into this game but it has in fact meant the claws ended up in my brain. it's late here but i'll be here before work tomorrow.

@rc: can you walk me through your read on eevee. there seems to be a Moment (238/239) where you're speculating that they're scum/on a specific team and then throw them into a no-elimination pile in 262. what caused that turnaround?

@eevee: is meta the sole reason that snowblaze gets a little scum ping for having reads so early on? (145) you liked when umlaut provided a reads list that had little to substantiate it. (101) so i guess i don't see how the situations distinguish themselves from one another save for the meta...?

@fredrick: what reasons do you think i would have for not posting here as much? (303)


p-edit: i was already trying to read through this game pls

[RCEnigma]

Frederick comes off genuine. Didn't really think claiming there was no day talk to discredit Mohab made much sense in the first place.

I don't think the post quoted below was discrediting anyone.

Bear with me since I rarely play setups besides the Newbie one, but is Holden being post-restricted? I don't remember which game it was that had a player similarly bound by pirate-speak.

in contrast to Mohab's setup question - this i like

Homura usually plays newbie games and she's apparently played in game where a player had a pirate speak post restriction before so this is a legitimate question to ask
it being a legitimate question means she could've asked it in her scum PT or not suspected it in the first place if scum have said soemthing about the open setup in there

it's minor High Seas points to Homura - let's just say 1 actually i don't do halves

~Eve

I would like to point out that mafia doesn't have daytalk and Homura thus couldn't have asked it in the scum PT. Also, scum might not have said anything about the open setup in there, causing what we observed.

Err I meant Homura there. You aren't discrediting a read directly but by challenging Eevee's basis for defending Homura by pointing out no day talk it nullifies the reasoning eevee had.

But day talk can be confirmed or disconfirmed so it's not something scum would fake having or not having. I'm saying I don't think that's what you were doing there.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

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@fredrick: what reasons do you think i would have for not posting here as much? (303)
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I am not going to give you the reasons I thought up so that you can use them. Give us your reasons.

[RCEnigma]

@rc: can you walk me through your read on eevee. there seems to be a Moment (238/239) where you're speculating that they're scum/on a specific team and then throw them into a no-elimination pile in 262. what caused that turnaround?

It's not a turnaround, I said in 239 it wasn't a world I was evaluating yet since I townread most of the slots I included. Eevee's questioning is *mostly* indicative of solving and that's going to lead to stances and stances lead to scum. Regardless of their alignment their making the game easier to parse and aren't an option today.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

@Mod:

How long does a day last in this universe?

[Menalque]

You think scum just....isn't playing the game?

I mean... yeah? Potentially?

I don’t see any reason to have paranoia on my TRs right now and I think 2 scum is very probable in that group, and especially if suji is scum or something it would explain a lot about the gamestate

You never hit me back about this, RCE

The gamestate feels very weird right now

[Menalque]

@Mod:

How long does a day last in this universe?

We have like 7 days left, check the last VC

[Raya36]

I think Fredrick is ok. No slip there. Unless he backpedaled hard and successfully

What is "backpedaled"?

Going back on what you said

[Fredrick A Campbell]

@Mod:

How long does a day last in this universe?

We have like 7 days left, check the last VC

According to my calculations, I calculated that we were given 12 real-life days to start the day.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

EBWOP: According to my calculations, I calculated that we were given 12 real-life days for this day.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I think Fredrick is ok. No slip there. Unless he backpedaled hard and successfully

What is "backpedaled"?

Going back on what you said

I don't remember backpedalling on anything.

[Raya36]

Just referring to the potential "scumslip" of knowing about daytalk

[RCEnigma]

You think scum just....isn't playing the game?

I mean... yeah? Potentially?

I don’t see any reason to have paranoia on my TRs right now and I think 2 scum is very probable in that group, and especially if suji is scum or something it would explain a lot about the gamestate

You never hit me back about this, RCE

The gamestate feels very weird right now

Sorry, didn't see this.

Err sure there isn't much reason for paranoia because nothing's happened. 2 scum in that group could be true. But fmpov that only leaves snow and ydrasse and that feels too good to be true. Fred I town lean and Homura I sorta townlean via eevee.

If you're town I'd probably look back at your wagon formation but it never really went anywhere. None of the wagons have.

I think the game state is weird because everyone's shaking hands on townreads. Which could be inactive scum or scum agreeing and banking on a low info lurker lynch by deadline.

[RCEnigma]

You think scum just....isn't playing the game?

I mean... yeah? Potentially?

I don’t see any reason to have paranoia on my TRs right now and I think 2 scum is very probable in that group, and especially if suji is scum or something it would explain a lot about the gamestate

Also, you didn't mention suji in your initial scum grouping?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: Chemist1422

I would like to point out what this player has done is worse than Ydrasse. (citation)

[northsidegal]

@Mod:

How long does a day last in this universe?

A Day lasts for 12 real life days. All deadlines are available in the rules post. The current deadline for any phase is always located in post 0.

[Mohab500]

Can I get some idea of the current wagon? skimmed the last few pages but everything seems so disconnected to me, I am not sure what's going on anymore.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chemist1422

I would like to point out what this player has done is worse than Ydrasse. (citation)

wat

[Umlaut]

VOTE: Chemist1422

I would like to point out what this player has done is worse than Ydrasse. (citation)

Your citation is their list of posts sitewide. Could you be a little more specific?