Mafia of Revelations ~ Game Over!

[CantHateAPuppy]

I don’t see how giving up a player who has a role is related to CLAP telling us he has info about three town trackers.

im not saying there are definitely three town trackers. i'm saying it's very plausible given what i know, actually, Vi, i think it would be kind of brilliant

[Hoopla]

I don’t see how giving up a player who has a role is related to CLAP telling us he has info about three town trackers.

we're only giving up where a role targetted - not the role itself.

i don't know where puppy is going with this, but intuitively, i think it will be useful to learn more about the setup (clarify the tracker situation) or learn more about puppy (clarify his slot).

there's little downside in revealing a hidden PR's target. we're not outing a PR here.

[Green Crayons]

here's little downside in revealing a hidden PR's target. we're not outing a PR here.

Did CLAP agree to this? I didn’t see that.

[Green Crayons]

it appears we can largely solve or at least gain good info about the puppy slot by some exchange of information here.

the only risk i see from this is outing a protection role. so, if it makes you feel more at ease; just claim who the person was tracked to, not the player you tracked. that protects the identity of potential town power, while also gives puppy something to work with.

puppy, will this information be useful to you in terms of revealing yours?

this information is going to help me decide who to lynch.

i don't want to overstate what i know here, and i don't want to reveal what i have to. so i'll put it like this: the way nightaction claims should be evaluated is different if you know what i know. i would rather not claim why to avoid poisoning the well. depending on what i have to work with i may claim more or less.

pedit: i have already decided kmd no longer makes sense as scum, null for now, possibly town. he knows i didn't visit anyone N1 which is a big point in favor.

This is ambiguous. I can see how he’s agreeing to reveal just the target, not the power role player. But I didn’t read this post that way initially.

[CantHateAPuppy]

agar is worried because with POE the PR can't be agar/kmd/GC, so that leaves a pool of 8/11, then figure 2 scum so 6/11, and then all the players who haven't visited anybody would be eliminated too

i promise i am not worried about this at all and i have a good reason. you can vote for me tomorrow if i fail to provide a good explanation

[AGar]

agar is worried because with POE the PR can't be agar/kmd/GC, so that leaves a pool of 8/11, then figure 2 scum so 6/11, and then all the players who haven't visited anybody would be eliminated too

i promise i am not worried about this at all and i have a good reason. you can vote for me tomorrow if i fail to provide a good explanation

Yeah you haven’t inspired me that you’re operating in good faith here.

We can move on as far as I’m concerned, I don’t think this is going to proceed anywhere that benefits the town. My fear is the PR will be PoEd even further than that based on gameplay and associatives.

[CantHateAPuppy]

what do you want to know here? work with me a little. I do, in fact, want to "operate in good faith" here

i am 100% convinced that in my position you would want to know the same question, and would not be worried in the slightest about the PR being POE'd

[Hoopla]

i think agar is too attached to his scumread on KMD to see the forest for the trees here. we only narrow the PoE on a town PR a little. scum have a lot of work to do at night to kill off any/all town trackers - they won't risk shooting into a pool of unknowns (though shrinking).

i get he thinks KMD is scum, but puppy has claimed potentially contradictory information apropos of nothing. puppy is probably town - scum don't run such nuanced interference out of the blue.

this means the value of agar's information has since plummeted, and i think it's more important for everyone else in the town to get a better read of the situation, than for agar to cling to his info that may well be leading him in the wrong direction.

[AGar]

i think agar is too attached to his scumread on KMD to see the forest for the trees here.

My reticence has nothing to do with that read.

[Hoopla]

okay, that's fine.

do you believe puppy is town here?

[VP Baltar]

agar is worried because with POE the PR can't be agar/kmd/GC, so that leaves a pool of 8/11, then figure 2 scum so 6/11, and then all the players who haven't visited anybody would be eliminated too

i promise i am not worried about this at all and i have a good reason. you can vote for me tomorrow if i fail to provide a good explanation

Yeah you haven’t inspired me that you’re operating in good faith here.

We can move on as far as I’m concerned, I don’t think this is going to proceed anywhere that benefits the town. My fear is the PR will be PoEd even further than that based on gameplay and associatives.

Just spitballing here, would it make sense to list a group of targets (maybe 3? 2 false, 1 true) and puppy can infer whatever he needs to know from that?

Maybe this is a question for puppy.

I'm with hoops that figuring out some of the setup stuff seems a higher reward for town than scum given the current numbers.

[CantHateAPuppy]

can someone please post all the track claims so far? i know when i was rereading someone had a post like this but i can't find it now and i want to see before i consider how much to reveal

[Blair]

He isn't asking who you tracked, AGar.

He's asking for the result - just the result. (i.e. "Where did they go?")

That has been abundantly clear all along, so I'm not sure why you're pretending he's asking you to out a PR.

[CantHateAPuppy]

@mod

is it possible for roles in this game to target the mod?

[VP Baltar]

AGar: Hoopla n1, someone who visited n2
GC: Kmd n1, ??? n2
Kmd: CLAP n1, Hoopla n2

[CantHateAPuppy]

AGar: Hoopla n1, someone who visited n2
GC: Kmd n1, ??? n2
Kmd: CLAP n1, Hoopla n2

thanks! GC claimed IIAU went nowhere N2 so we have this:

Agar: n1 Hoopla goes nowhere, n2 someone goes ???
GC: n1 KMD goes to Puppy, n2 IIAU goes nowhere
KMD: n1 Puppy goes nowhere, n2 Hoopla goes nowhere

[Gammagooey]

Lordy this is too dumb and not worth the effort

I am also a tracker
I tracked Starbuck n1 and UT night 2, both of them visited no-one, and agar prob tracked me n2

I'm watching Dark with a friend so I'll be back in an hour

I still think we should yeet chlflip

cya soon

[CantHateAPuppy]

Vi please let me know when you host again

[Blair]

I want to hear why Gamma felt so strongly that AGar visited him that it was worthwhile for him to claim there.

[CantHateAPuppy]

Lets start with this: Agar, the mysterious masked stranger you visited N2. Who did they visit?

@mod

is it possible for roles in this game to target the mod?

I want to hear why Gamma felt so strongly that AGar visited him that it was worthwhile for him to claim there.

i need answers to at least 2/3 these

[CantHateAPuppy]

"I wanted controversy, arguments, fights, discussions, people in anger waving fists in my face saying, 'how dare you?'"
—

Patrick McGoohan

Vi designing this setup

[CantHateAPuppy]

people are going to be very angry about this game, vi but i think it's brilliant. i think people will be still talking about this setup years from now

[Untrod Tripod]

this is the dumbest shit imaginable

CLAP is not in any position to hold the game hostage or demand information roles out their info

[CantHateAPuppy]

u wanna confirm u went nowhere n2 UT?

[chkflip]

1 Mafia Tracker v 4 Town Trackers?

There's definitely a Ninja. Or perhaps a false Framer that shows mafia as not visiting anyone. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a Roleblocker, but nobody has said they failed. Busdriver makes more sense there.

I'm still yeet one.