Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

Replacement for Sujimichi · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:41 am

I assume I'll get more context as I catch up, but feel free to provide your take on why you think your ability to read her has changed, Klick.

Replacement for Sujimichi · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:44 am

In post 132, UnaBombaH wrote:But then again, if you were to roll scum twice in a row, I guess you'd try and mix it up as well.

This is a good point. If Klick rolled scum in his last game, it is statistically less likely he rolled scum in this game.

Klick · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:45 am

I think I've only seen Hoopla's scumgame once, and it was years ago and I replaced in as her buddy. Last game (*takes shot*) Hoopla said she follows a similar formula every time D1, and based on that and the legends I've heard of scum!Hoopla, I assumed I wouldn't be able to read her today. But based on the reasons I've already given I think I could actually be onto something here.

Replacement for Sujimichi · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:46 am

In post 138, bob3141 wrote:
In post 129, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 126, bob3141 wrote:Una is gamblers fallacy right on you this time
Was it you who called that last game too?
What did you even mean by that given the context?
I know what it means, but if we are talking about the last game and that one post that stuck out to me, it felt out of place then and there.
Your last 7 games had been town. And now 8.

Wow. This means Una is very likely scum in this game. Good use of meta from Bob.

Isis · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:49 am

I was hoping to hear Klick tell me how brilliant I am and I'm a little let down

Klick · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:51 am

I'm not quite sure why you expected that, but you are indeed brilliant

Replacement for Sujimichi · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:03 am

I have reached the pinnacle of page 9.
Una's use of emojis alarms me, but I like his openness with reads and discussing his thoughts at this early stage.
Good use of a GIF from Dunnstral in 171. Top marks.

In post 173, geraintm wrote:is there someone in this game called Sujimichi????

As I am standing in for Sujimichi, I can answer this for you. Sujimichi has other matters to attend to and I will be standing in as their replacement.

In post 179, Hoopla wrote:
@mod

prod this sujimichi character

There is no need for this, mod. I have replaced Sujimichi and do not require prodding.

184: I disagree with this and enjoyed Isis' take, but I don't think your opposition is indicative of your alignment.
The power this Hoopla character demands scares me.
I am not enthused by Galron so far. His only take has been liking Hoopla's content and the rest has been fluff.

Replacement for Sujimichi · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:06 am

In post 602, Klick wrote:I think I've only seen Hoopla's scumgame once, and it was years ago and I replaced in as her buddy. Last game (*takes shot*) Hoopla said she follows a similar formula every time D1, and based on that and the legends I've heard of scum!Hoopla, I assumed I wouldn't be able to read her today. But based on the reasons I've already given I think I could actually be onto something here.

Well, I look forward to reading about these reasons. The fall of Hoopla from god emperor to wagonee should be entertaining.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:02 am

In post 606, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:I am not enthused by Galron so far. His only take has been liking Hoopla's content and the
rest has been fluff
.

I mean..coming from you? The bolded part?

Isis · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:09 am

High Fluff High Content > Medium Fluff Low Content

I don't know why people pretend fluff subtracts from how much content someone has posted, game after game.

Don't be a flareon

notscience · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:10 am

Replacement hasn’t mentioned me and I promise I won’t get a timeshare!

I’m actually way more outgoing in mafia than I am normally I’m normally really shy

Isis · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:10 am

it's a rant trigger for me cause I've been mislynched a couple jillion day 1s for wanting to have fun in my mafia games and it's so bad for site meta and doesn't even make sense

notscience · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:15 am

I agree. I fluff a high amount I feel like but I also am actively doing things too

Isis · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:22 am

I think evince a shy personality in mafia too, but that's not a bad thing.
I'm never shy but it is hard for me to find someone interesting unless they might be scum, so I usually leave parties early.

Isis · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:23 am

*I think you

bob3141 · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:33 am

In post 606, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:I have reached the pinnacle of page 9.
Una's use of emojis alarms me, but I like his openness with reads and discussing his thoughts at this early stage.
Good use of a GIF from Dunnstral in 171. Top marks.
In post 173, geraintm wrote:is there someone in this game called Sujimichi????
As I am standing in for Sujimichi, I can answer this for you. Sujimichi has other matters to attend to and I will be standing in as their replacement.
In post 179, Hoopla wrote:
@mod

prod this sujimichi character
There is no need for this, mod. I have replaced Sujimichi and do not require prodding.

184: I disagree with this and enjoyed Isis' take, but I don't think your opposition is indicative of your alignment.
The power this Hoopla character demands scares me.
I am not enthused by Galron so far. His only take has been liking Hoopla's content and the rest has been fluff.

So whats your exact read on una then?

notscience · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:51 am

That was a great catchup I truly feel like I know where you stand on the game bob

notscience · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:53 am

I could see it, I think I’m a touch more chatty than I am when you first meet me

But I do cling to familiar people a lot probably for that reason, so

Emperor flippyNips · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:03 am

I gotta do some catching up

Emperor flippyNips · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:04 am

I’ll probably read the last 10 pages soon, I’m gonna be a little on the busy side today

bob3141 · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:26 am

In post 377, Klick wrote:
In post 364, notscience wrote:Klick what’s worrying you about me
263 looked bad earlier, the 'sell me on Bella' pinged me a bit as you wanting to use Hoopla to formulate your read on Bella for you. but looking at it right now I feel completely differently and actually kinda vining with notscience-town. I feel like town-you is more likely to be like 'wtf why is Klick scumreading me for flimsy reasons'
But this is moderately drunk Klick logic now vs sober Klick logic earlier. I think I trust my gut rn though because I was having a lot of trouble getting into this earlier in any capacity. You can be town notty
In post 369, Hoopla wrote:@bella, @klick

i still want both of you to give me an honest appraisal regarding your accuracy of reading each other's alignment.

in the event one of you flips town, how much weight should your opinion of the other's alignment be given?
We haven't actually played much mafia together at all. But last time we were both town, and I pegged her as town rather quickly into D1, whereas she always had a lowkey scumread on me.
In IRL mafia I literally just can't play with her because if I'm scum she will instantly call me on it. I'm not nearly as good at reading her IRL.

Tl;dr: low sample size/evidence, but I do actually think I can read her well on forum. This doesn't really feel like town Bella to me yet.

Im starting to develop a mild scumread on Hoopla or at least I'm not vibing with her here at all on several things. Geraintm looks obvtown to me. The wagon is indeed ass. And I think she along with several others are going in a bit unnaturally hard on the Bob wagon. The idea that Bob was an easy scum push doesn't seem intuitive to me - it was too early and there wasn't enough substance for it to be the kind of thing scum would seriously expect to successfully push early. If anything the tinfoil I had in my head earlier was that Bob was scum and had at least one buddy on him earlier who knew the wagon wouldn't take off properly due to lack of evidence.

The fact a wagon formed on me so early should be a clear sign that I'm town. Just never happens when I'm scum.

Bobs been wagoned day one = bob is town
No wagon = could go either way

And that's forgetting the fact that a rvs stage wagon is almost always on town.

Fact flippy would vote me upto 5 on a rvs wagon. Is actually town indicative. Scum tend not to make blank votes that aren't much more than a counter joke vote. On a wagon that just has no foundation to it all.

Based on that i wouldn't be surprised if klick flips town as well.

bob3141 · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:33 am

In post 616, notscience wrote:That was a great catchup I truly feel like I know where you stand on the game bob

mostly from what ive seen. That una is whiteknighting. He is pushign a town read on me without realy explaining. Something scum do if they dont want to push a lynch but are not against it forming.

See how he keeps sayign i dont want bob, bob is a mislynch ect

But not once says a reason as to why he thinks that. Town come up with reasosn as they want to stop mislynches. Scum dont want to provide town with a reason not to vote that player. As thats against their wincon.

When i read his posts it just feels like im reading a newspaper.

bob3141 · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:36 am

In post 603, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:
In post 138, bob3141 wrote:
In post 129, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 126, bob3141 wrote:Una is gamblers fallacy right on you this time
Was it you who called that last game too?
What did you even mean by that given the context?
I know what it means, but if we are talking about the last game and that one post that stuck out to me, it felt out of place then and there.
Your last 7 games had been town. And now 8.
Wow. This means Una is very likely scum in this game. Good use of meta from Bob.

Whats meta got to do with it. Did the joke go over your head

As this just feels like making a comment for the sake of trying to get your post count up.

bob3141 · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:40 am

In post 609, Isis wrote:High Fluff High Content > Medium Fluff Low Content

I don't know why people pretend fluff subtracts from how much content someone has posted, game after game.

Don't be a flareon

I dont count fluff posts as they are Irrelavant. Doesnt take away but certainly doesnt add.

Often just a sign that person is feeling chatty.

bob3141 · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:44 am

In post 601, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:
In post 132, UnaBombaH wrote:But then again, if you were to roll scum twice in a row, I guess you'd try and mix it up as well.
This is a good point. If Klick rolled scum in his last game, it is statistically less likely he rolled scum in this game.

Same odds. Thats gambler fallacy.

Only time you can use gamblers fallacy is when you already think the player is scum or b. got a choice of two wagons you dont like has been forced on you day one

Hence the joke.