Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Klick]

from my perspective, it is clear there was some opportunism in the early-mid part of my wagon. given klick appears to understand the purpose of my play, his vote is highly suspicious. occam's razor: is it more likely he actually thinks i am scum here, or is he seizing the moment when whispers of hoopla suspicion started floating about? i think the latter. and as a bonus moment of suspicion; calling for bellaphant to join the wagon in 536. isn't she your suspect?

Given you've expressed similar wariness of myself and notty for not seeing eye-to-eye with you before this, why is it unlikely that I scumread you for it?
Bella had already started being more town by 536 (and at the present moment is a pretty strong townread). Even outside of that, why should I care what Bella's alignment is when asking her to join the wagon on you? It calls for support on your wagon

and

gives me info on her.

I don't think Hoopla has enough justification as town to want to vote me here over some of the less active/high-utility players in this game (see ALL of her Neutral pile in her reads - Dunn, Suji, popo and Flippy).

[Klick]

if there were scum amongst us, why do you expect it to be the one with independent thoughts, as opposed to someone mimicking the de facto narrative? an easier position for a you/una/klick type character as scum to take is to agree with the orthodoxy, especially if it isn't threatening to yourself/teammates.

Then why did you find it odd/suspicious in the first place when you weren't on the same page with myself and notty?

[Klick]

Page 27 interaction between Dunn and notty is TvT.

[Klick]

Can you explain why you thought those slots were town? Like, I was literally only strongly town reading Una there....

so,

you are asking me to time travel,


embody a previous version of myself,



just so i can relay to you a grainy snapshot of a moment long since passed?

I mildly suspect Hoopla stated early townreads on popo/Flippy for convenience so she didn't have to push at least one of them. Especially Flippy, since in her reads list she doesn't mention anything about a previous townread on him.
Thid lines up with popo and Flippy both being players I have no town feelings about. If Hoopla is scum I'd expect at least one of these two to be a buddy.

[Klick]

It’s not really that outrageous hoops, it happens all the time

It’s only hard if it’s made up

Ding dong

[Dunnstral]

She hasn't claimed, you're better than that Dunnstral

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[Klick]

Why is everyone voting for Hoopla if she isn't scummy?

I missed where people who are voting her said she wasn't scummy?

[Klick]

bob3141

notscience
geraintm
UnaBombaH

Replacement for Sujimichi

Klick
Bellaphant

Emperor flippyNips

Galron

Hoopla
popopopopopopo

Isis
Dunnstral

Crossed out is town, italics is probably not scum, bolded is where the scum are likely to be.

[Dunnstral]

So you scumread all the lurkers and townread all your friends, with Hoopla being an anomaly

[Isis]

UNVOTE:

[Klick]

bob3141

notscience

geraintm

UnaBombaH
Replacement for Sujimichi

Klick

Bellaphant

Emperor flippyNips
Galron

Hoopla

popopopopopopo

Isis

Dunnstral

Green = friends
Black = neutral
Red = randomly passive-agressive

[Isis]

Klick you're still kind of scummy I hope you mean we're friends outside this game

[Isis]

I think Dunn seemed disgruntled like this in Crown and Assassin

But he seems to be for real mad and not pretend mad which makes it closer to Assassin.
And he was town there.
Wouldn't be excited to be the game on it though

[Hoopla]

apologies friends,

have been undergoing a significant transformative experience in my personal life recently. i'm back (mostly), and will get around to answering questions as soon i can - i know there are a few lined up for me.

[Klick]

Yes, friends out-of-game

I don't really know how to respond when you say I'm scummy because you've yet to be able to put it to words. I got the earlier scumreads because I was being weird early on, but I'm not really seeing where you get a scumread on me at this point.

Im assuming you unvoted to remove the lolhammer possibility?

[Isis]

Yes apparently Dunnstral is not better than to lolhammer unclaimeds

[Dunnstral]

Yes apparently Dunnstral is not better than to lolhammer unclaimeds :(

Don't worry, I was scum in all of those games

[Hoopla]

@hoops...yes, I do expect you to do exactly that? Remembering things is only difficult if it was a made up comment, surely. Like....you declared a bobbins wagon town anf when I ask you to explain, you reply back with waffle about time travel??

a confession;

i dislike talking about my personal life here, so this is hard to say.

it has been my real life birthday recently, and as celebration i will often enter a transcendental meditative state through the use of specific portals. i didn't realise i would be gone so long - and i attempted to post while i was in an altered state. this was a mistake because it clouded my judgement and added extra layers of obfuscation to a game where we are trying to peel back the layers. in such states i literally don't have any longterm memory, so my comment - while facetious - was also true.

this is a cerebral game that lasts a long time. a challenging commitment when pockets of time come up in real life when i am not capable of cerebral thought processes.

i don't recommend reading into this alignment-wise either way. this is more just to apologise, and explain myself for that comment. i'll attempt to answer it sincerely.

[Dunnstral]

it has been my real life birthday recently,

we know, it shows the cake on your profile

[Dunnstral]

bob3141

notscience

geraintm

UnaBombaH
Replacement for Sujimichi

Klick

Bellaphant

Emperor flippyNips
Galron

Hoopla

popopopopopopo

Isis

Dunnstral

Green = friends
Black = neutral
Red = randomly passive-agressive

Tell me if I'm wrong

[Isis]

I was on my phone so I couldn't investigate thoroughly.

I feel trolled.

VOTE: Hoopla

[Isis]

it has been my real life birthday recently,

we know, it shows the cake on your profile

Hoopla's account, uniquely across site, is rigged to always show it as both her scumday and birthday

[Hoopla]

I was on my phone so I couldn't investigate thoroughly.

I feel trolled.

VOTE: Hoopla

it was a sincere post.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 1's Thirty-Fifth Votecount

Hoopla (6): Klick, Bellaphant, UnaBombaH, notscience, Galron, Isis
geraintm (2): popopopopopopo, bob3141
Klick (2): geraintm , Hoopla
bob3141 (2): Emperor flippyNips, Replacement for Sujimichi
notscience (1): Dunnstral
Replacement for Sujimichi (0):
popopopopopopo (0):
Dunnstral (0):
Bellaphant (0):
Emperor flippyNips (0):
Galron (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Isis (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 voters, 7 votes are required to execute.

Votes Not Reflected Since Last Votecount:
Not Voting (1): Isis

Day 1 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-20 00:15:00).

[notscience]

I believe hoops I think.

I’m assuming this is why you’re struggling to answer the thought process early on?