Smuggler's Port [Game Over]

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:20 am

In post 1673, Something_Smart wrote:Why would they refuse to take an investigation? Then they just get executed.

They could have made an excuse to investigate something else or just stayed on Linen right? Why did they move out to Wheat in the first place if they were scum? The best move would be to just stay in the largest pool no?

Alisae · Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:21 am

In post 1674, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1669, Hel wrote:Something_Smart is one of my favourite players on this site.
Aw you're gonna make me blush and I don't even know if Azelfs are capable of that.

its ok cuz azelf is objectively the worst of the lake trio

Alisae · Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:22 am

though being the worst out of the lake trio isn't actually bad considering all of them are awesome

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:26 am

Oh it was because of Iconeums post 1180 ok now i get it.

Not Known 15 · Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:35 am

In post 1675, NorwegianboyEE wrote:They could have made an excuse to investigate something else or just stayed on Linen right? Why did they move out to Wheat in the first place if they were scum? The best move would be to just stay in the largest pool no?

Did you forget? Iconeum decides the people to be investigated. When he decided the lynch and the investigations last day, everyone named was outed as Not TD. Refusing to switch would have very likely led to a Day 1 scum lynch which would have been bad for scum either way:Game-losing except for hitting TD if there was another scum in the pool of 4(lynch, invests), game-accelerating if not. Would YOU have declined to lynch someone who`d have refused to switch? I wouldn`t. Someone outed as Not TD should be investigated, or lynched. If they refuse to switch only lynch remains.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:39 am

Yeah i forgot that Ico basically set up everything. So going against that would be scummy. I see now why it ended up like this.

Moment · Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:50 am

I seriously considered refusing to ship wheat and may have done so if the day went on for longer.

Not Known 15 · Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:51 am

In post 1681, Moment wrote:I seriously considered refusing to ship wheat and may have done so if the day went on for longer.

Why?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:54 am

Townie confession.

ISO · Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:55 am

In post 1681, Moment wrote:I seriously considered refusing to ship wheat and may have done so if the day went on for longer.

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Umlaut · Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:51 pm

I started writing a catchup post earlier today then walked away and lost it, fml

Short version: I think NS is the scum on the shipment, Moment made himself look pretty town

Doing a real catchup sometime tonight

Umlaut · Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:53 pm

I think just letting Ico call the shipment is the safest option; either that or we build two mutually exclusive shipments, on copper and wheat, and let Ico direct the inspection votes onto one or the other. But haven't read whatever other mechanical ideas people have come up with so far

Umlaut · Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:55 pm

Also we

definitely

have to investigate NK15. If I could direct the investigation I'd say pair NK15 with a couple of others who are non-TD-spewed and check them all, then execute NK15 first if we hit tea (unless notscience flips green, then execute in the smaller pool)

Iconeum · Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:06 pm

rawr!

catching up today

Moment · Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:10 pm

In post 1687, Umlaut wrote:Also we
definitely
have to investigate NK15.

Why?

Umlaut · Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:12 pm

In post 1689, Moment wrote:
In post 1687, Umlaut wrote:Also we
definitely
have to investigate NK15.
Why?

I mean, mostly because I refuse to lose the game to a living NK15 who was caught in a lie midway through day 1.

Iconeum · Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:14 pm

In post 1690, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1689, Moment wrote:
In post 1687, Umlaut wrote:Also we
definitely
have to investigate NK15.
Why?
I mean, mostly because I refuse to lose the game to a living NK15 who was caught in a lie midway through day 1.

Give me 1 good reason scum!NK chooses to lie and fake claim like that, and in the process has a high chance of comitting seppuku

Iconeum · Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:15 pm

otoh i probably shouldn't be talking about reads too much

i think the play is for everyone to decide on 2 options to investigate, and 2 (or 3?) options to execute in which I have final say?

Umlaut · Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:16 pm

In post 1691, Iconeum wrote:Give me 1 good reason scum!NK chooses to lie and fake claim like that, and in the process has a high chance of comitting seppuku

As I said, I don't have a good reason but a bad reason could be that he just didn't understand the setup properly.

Moment · Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:17 pm

In post 1690, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1689, Moment wrote:
In post 1687, Umlaut wrote:Also we
definitely
have to investigate NK15.
Why?
I mean, mostly because I refuse to lose the game to a living NK15 who was caught in a lie midway through day 1.

Are you aware that this is a purely emotional play?

It seems to me that if your goal is to minimize your chance of losing or maximize your chance of winning, choosing an investigation based off of today's lynch is the method to do that. That is to say, an investigation based off of the information gained from notscience's flip.

Umlaut · Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:18 pm

Also that whole line of argument is inherently self-defeating: if you're refusing to execute or even investigate him precisely because he fakeclaimed then you can't also say it's a bad scum play

Titus · Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:23 pm

In post 1695, Umlaut wrote:Also that whole line of argument is inherently self-defeating: if you're refusing to execute or even investigate him precisely because he fakeclaimed then you can't also say it's a bad scum play

Ico too dumb to scum is an opinion not a fact. It would be best for the health of the town for him to be investigated.

If you're right, it'll turn up wheat anyway.

Titus · Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:26 pm

In post 1692, Iconeum wrote:i think the play is for everyone to decide on 2 options to investigate, and 2 (or 3?) options to execute in which I have final say?

I would recommed umlaut NK15 and EE as investigations tonight. This is VCA investigations so it holds no matter what notty flips (although I think its scum).

Umlaut · Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:55 pm

I'd be happy with that pool actually. Kind of small if it comes up tea-free but not unworkably so.

Umlaut · Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:56 pm

Oh wait, I didn't notice want me in there too. Not too small then.