Mini Normal 2148 (Post Game)

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Should we massclaim

[NoPowerOverMe]

Reading is overrated. At any rate, what is it that you think I don't understand?

[Not_Mafia]

Mafia Vanilla Cop would actually fit well in this set-up, bob might not be lying about his role

[maxwell]

MN2149

VT x 6 + Vigilante + Odd-Night Loyal Doctor + Odd-Night Gunsmith + 1-Shot Watcher

vs

Mafia Goon + Mafia Multitasking Watcher + Mafia Night 3 Jailkeeper

MN2147

VT x 7 + Town Announcing Neapolitan + Town Jailkeeper + Town Universal Backup

vs

Mafia Goon x 2 + Mafia Rolestopper (only 3 power roles here but note they're all fairly strong)

MN2146

VT x 6 + Town Roleblocker + Town Doctor + Town 3-shot Combined Fruit Vendor Gunsmith + Town Backup Roleblocker

vs

Mafia Goon + Mafia Night 2 Alien + Mafia Watcher

MN2143

VT x 5 + Town Tracker + Town Neighbor Encryptor + Town Neapolitan Neighbor + Town Neighbor + Town Back-up Neapolitan

vs

Mafia Goon x 2 + Mafia Vanilla Cop

MN2141

VT x 6 + Town Disloyal Fruit Vendor + Town Tracker + Town Traffic Analyst + Town Night 4 Vigilante

vs

Mafia Strongman x 3

MN2139

VT x 5 + Town Neighbor + Town 1-Shot Cop + Town Informed Fruit Vendor + Town Combined Tracker Follower + Town 1-Shot Bulletproof Traffic Analyst

vs

Mafia Neighbor x 3

MN2138

VT x 6 + Town Even Night Roleblocker + Town Voyeur Mason + Town Follower Mason + Town Odd Night Jailkeeper

vs

Mafia Goon + Mafia Even Night Jailkeeper + Mafia Odd Night Ninja

MN2137

VT x 5 + Town Jailkeeper + Town 1-Shot Voyeur + Town 1-Shot Weak Follower + Town 1-Shot Voyeur + Town 1-shot bulletproof 1-shot watcher

vs

Mafia Goon x 2 + Mafia 1-shot Voyeur

MN2135

VT x 6 + Town Miller x 2 + Innocent Child + Town Ascetic Encryptor + Town 1-shot Rolecop

vs

Mafia Goon x 2

MN2132

VT x 5 + Town Neighborizer Enabler + Town Role Cop + Town Ascetic + Town Indecisive Babysitter + Town Watcher

vs

Mafia Encryptor + Mafia Compulsive Weak Neighborizer + Mafia Informed 1-shot Jailkeeper

[maxwell]

It would be nice if someone I didn't already have a town read on had a power role to claim.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Is vanilla town a power role?

[Green Crayons]

Wait vanilla cop is a role cop?

[Green Crayons]

VOTE: NPOE

[Not_Mafia]

Is vanilla town a power role?

No

[Green Crayons]

I’m still inclined to believe both bob and NM.

I have NM as basically confirm town. I don’t know why anyone sees this otherwise.

NPOE’s defense of bob and following bob’s attacks on NM look opportunistic. Makes more sense if bob is town than scum.

[Not_Mafia]

Wait vanilla cop is a role cop?

A vanilla cop checks whether a role is a power role or vanilla, checking a VT or mafia goon would return a result of vanilla, checking a cop, doctor, mafia encryptor, mafia roleblocker etc... would return a result of not vanilla

[Green Crayons]

You don't find bob's claim too convenient?

I mean, if bob is town, what exactly would be an inconvenient role for him to have in this situation?

[Green Crayons]

Wait vanilla cop is a role cop?

A vanilla cop checks whether a role is a power role or vanilla, checking a VT or mafia goon would return a result of vanilla, checking a cop, doctor, mafia encryptor, mafia roleblocker etc... would return a result of not vanilla

lol

[Green Crayons]

That’s some weak tea.

[Green Crayons]

Also I'm still in the game last I checked.

My bad I copied from post 1.

[Green Crayons]

Wait vanilla cop is a role cop?

A vanilla cop checks whether a role is a power role or vanilla, checking a VT or mafia goon would return a result of vanilla, checking a cop, doctor, mafia encryptor, mafia roleblocker etc... would return a result of not vanilla

Okay so this is a valid scum role too.

Yeah, I might be inclined if another town investigative role claims, like max said. But otherwise I’m disinclined.

[Looker]

reading/ego

[maxwell]

I think last scum is in {Looker, CSF, DoctorPepper, NPOM} and we just need to find one that's town. Need to piece together who was willing to vote HK50 yesterday and who wasn't. Sort of just want to punt nopower into the sun regardless.

I played one game with CSF where he replaced into a scum slot and was basically a dead fish but I've no idea if this is a consistent thing for him or not. I disliked stungun significantly but felt CSF has been okay.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If you lynch based on personality conflicts town is not going to win this game. But maybe that's what you want.

[NoPowerOverMe]

There's no logical argument to suggest that NM is "confirmed town".

[maxwell]

There's no logical argument to suggest that NM is "confirmed town".

Shut up unless you've read the game.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Don't ask me for my vote then.

[Jake The Wolfie]

No one had seen Jake all day. Not even a peep. The pentagram glowed an unholy red, and a paper was found laying on it. It appeared to be an accurate votecount, with the note that Jake was off on official buisness and that a servant would soon be sent to fill in his place. The congregation needed a sacrifice by the end of the day to summon the servant however, so he had remotely summoned a votecount paper in the meantime.

Vote Count 3.1

bob3141 (2):

Not_Mafia, Cat Scratch Fever

Not_Mafia (2):

NoPowerOverMe, bob3141

NoPowerOverMe (2):

maxwell, Green Crayons

Not voting (2):

DoctorPepper, Looker

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Mod Notes:

Majority is 5 players.

Day 3 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-07-21 16:57:25)

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[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: NPOM

[maxwell]

To be clear, NPOM is pretty much a pure policy vote on the grounds that if he's town he is a net negative who contributes nothing useful and is very likely to lose the game if left alive.

I had a weird associative case on the stungun/votato slots on night 1 when I replaced in but pretty much threw it in the garbage after seeing the flips. If we assume that scum weren't trying to double bus clidd for no reason, that pairing suddenly becomes a lot less likely. I think the HK 50 slot definitely isn't paired with the stungun slot either. Only plausible partner then is doctorpepper, I guess? Probably not voting CSF today. I think if anything best odds are probably in doctorpepper/looker here, both being off the clidd wagon. doctorpepper could make sense as a partner for anyone, looker only non-aligned with CSF.

If one of the 4 players I mentioned could do something townish, it would be great.