In post 1845, Almost50 wrote:I need some answers form ALCHEMIST before I can make up my mind here,
Ask me anything
Basically I want to understand what you're doing today; so..
In post 1845, Almost50 wrote:My question is why would Alch claim it? And why would he claim he didn't receive anything else? And why talk about it in-thread before he asked and got a response from the mod. THESE are the questions you should have asked.
Let me reorder these though: You received the PM about the day start. You didn't receive any notifications about any 1-shot abilities gained. You PM'd the mod to verify he didn't forget. Now, why did you talk about it here before he responded? THAT is the starting question, because if you had waited you would not have had to announce you receive/didn't receive anything, so why did you do that knowing it would draw some negative flack your way, and you did it before you were even sure it is the case (and it turned out not to be the case)?
In post 1846, Almost50 wrote:I think I know exactly what you're talking about, but if I speak first then nobody else can claim they saw it too. Should I still say what I think you are calling a town slip?
Stand fast, soldier.
Sir, yes, sir! All actions ceased immediately, sir.
In post 1850, Almost50 wrote:Let me reorder these though: You received the PM about the day start. You didn't receive any notifications about any 1-shot abilities gained. You PM'd the mod to verify he didn't forget. Now, why did you talk about it here before he responded? THAT is the starting question, because if you had waited you would not have had to announce you receive/didn't receive anything, so why did you do that knowing it would draw some negative flack your way, and you did it before you were even sure it is the case (and it turned out not to be the case)?
2 reasons:
1) I am acting with full transparency in this game.
2) I tend to assume no mod error before mod error so my belief at the time was that I was not targeted at all and I was incredibly annoyed. There was a more colorful way I was going to phrase that announcement but I didn’t want to be an ass just in case there was a mod error. And obviously I’m still a bit annoyed.
Like, I want to believe you, and I do sincerely sympathize with the situation you're in (3P survivour is hard to play no matter how the mod tries to help them. I know because I played it and I also tailored a couple of roles in my own games, and had to give them some silly abilities to give them a chance. Ask EJ).
OTOH, I am also eying the best play (and my view could still be tainted by my town PoV, although I wouldn't say so). "I didn't receive anything" would have been good for you to dodge the scum NK, but is extremely bad for your chances to survive by day. "I have a Cop shot" is an invitation for scum to either kill or RB you, so that defies any +ve you gained from the previous "I didn't receive anything" and it does NOT improve your chances to survive the day either.
Knowing you, I do know you are a GOOD player as EITHER alignment (I dunno about 3P though), so I was wondering what exactly you were trying to accomplish here.
Anyway, what's done is done. I probably won't support a wagon on you still, but that's just me. I don't speak for anyone else.
I’m holding a strong belief that scum are going to let me remove myself from the game rather than waste a NK on me and I don’t think a 1-shot Cop is enough to make them change their minds on that. Maybe I’m wrong on how they feel about it but a 1-shot that’s more likely to hit Town is a lot less scary than someone who can do it every Night.
In post 1778, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m annoyed that 2 people who promised to target me D1 didn’t, and now a 3rd is saying he actually did but for whatever reason I don’t have a copy of his ability. Something’s better than nothing though.
In post 1773, Logicalicaltist wrote:If you aren’t voting someone and you call them Town/Town Slipped it’s NAI.
You can do that as either alignment. It’s honestly not hard.
At a normal occasion no. Pushing Wagon’s aren’t anti Town.
But due to the fact the top 2 wagons were both Town.
It has me thinking that there might be Scum motivation in them.
You pushed for Multiple Wagons and your previous took part in this as well.
Like both of you were quite motivated to push for wagons.
As we seen 1 of them was the Cop.
If Bingle and Pooky are also Town, that’s even more evidence as to why you are probably scum.
Like do you think that none of the 5 wagons were Scum Motivated?
VOTE: Logicalicaltist
I was voting for her. I switched to Iec when she town-slipped. Your attempts at painting this narrative lacks any sort of town motivation and your use of wagons that haven't flipped is something I've literally never seen town do in the ten years I've played this game.
You completely ignored my question re: the town slip because you don't have an answer.
We'd gotten Iec to e-2 iirc and I don't see you even remotely interested in any of the other voters.
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Fuckin tight that Iec had the wherewithal to give Alch a cop shot and it's hilarious to me that Galron doesn't want to give him the opportunity to use it.
I'd eliminate either of them but Log is really pushing the strangest mindset I've ever seen.
In post 1731, TemporalLich wrote:Chkflip looks a little scummy, a speed-skim shows his votes feel opportunistic
A50 also doesn't look too good VCA-wise, but I still townread A50
It just seemed like you were in the mood to repeat yourself, and I was the one out of the two of us that actually formed and pushed wagons D1, but go on.
You realize pushing/forming a wagon is NAI right?
Anyone can do it. It’s like your trying so hard to receive town credit, why?
In post 1712, Almost50 wrote:Also
@Mod: Nice PM. I've read it THRICE before I head to the thread, and still couldn't find the victim's name. I only found out it was Iec when I got here. Thanks for messing with my mind a little (I needed a little refreshment)
Weak reasoning, but one could make the argument that scum would not be that attentive to that detail since theyd know beforehand who the kill isnt, and might not be attentive to the fact that the name was ommited from the pm.
I see zero town motivation in not letting him use it.
So you believe that Iecerint who is dead and cannot confirm, wasted his investigation on a third party?
If Alch isn't your scumpal... think... think...
Iecerint, who as town cop knew he was dead unless there's a protect (like the one you lynched), used his ability on someone who could reciprocate it.
Yes.
I firmly believe that.
So they would automatically go to kill him despite him being a strong SR?
I think scum probably wanted to set something in motion upon his death or something.
While him dying makes sense due to his PR claim. He was also an easy mis-Execution target.
Heck, Roleblocker could have Roleblocked him instead of me but didn’t.
In post 1719, Logicalicaltist wrote:Looking at all of it though.
Chkflip seems to be the occurring main pusher on a wagon.
He is also my top scum read, PK nearing them in second place. VOTE: Chkflip
I need to look at this I guess. I've been town leaning that slot. I thought votato was town and chkflip seemed towny too.
What do you actually feel was towny in votato's play? Did you actually read all of the game? How come you have so little to report if you read the game in such detail level that you know how votato read? What happened to all the other detailed reads?
He could easily be telling the truth.
Why do you want him gone so badly?
How would you like it if you Claim Survivor and everyone calls you a lair and gets rid of you and you lose.
How would you feel?
will there be a tomorrow for you?