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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:21 am

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Roughly where I stand. The middle ground is shaky as hell, but I'd say everything chk and above is fairly solidly town and I'd be shocked if neither Galron nor TLich were scum.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 1923, chkflip wrote:Town "leaders" can be scum, y/n?
No, town leaders can't be scum
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:32 am

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If someone thought to be a town leader ends up being scum, they're not a town leader because they weren't town... and that's some god tier deepwolfing
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:41 am

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also bingle your vote without explanation makes no sense
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:08 pm

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Literally nothing about your play is towny.
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:09 pm

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In post 1927, TemporalLich wrote:and that's some pretty mediocre deepwolfing

FTFY
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:13 pm

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If you're just trying to throw a look of shade at me I'm not swayed by your vote
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:15 pm

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and you have ludicrously high standards for deepwolfing... you might as well be an openwolf if you want to play the bad logic game
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:28 pm

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:yawn:

I'll case you when I feel like it. The flail is real.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:56 pm

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In post 1894, Galron wrote:
In post 1871, Vecna wrote:
In post 1725, Galron wrote:
In post 1719, Logicalicaltist wrote:Looking at all of it though.
Chkflip seems to be the occurring main pusher on a wagon.
He is also my top scum read, PK nearing them in second place.
VOTE: Chkflip
I need to look at this I guess. I've been town leaning that slot. I thought votato was town and chkflip seemed towny too.
What do you actually feel was towny in votato's play? Did you actually read all of the game? How come you have so little to report if you read the game in such detail level that you know how votato read? What happened to all the other detailed reads?

This reads fake.
God no I haven't read the whole game. I did speed through a few slots though.
Now, answer the actual important part of the question please

VOTE: Galron
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:00 pm

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In post 1900, TemporalLich wrote:yeah I'm not sure why Vecna is trying to throw a small look of shade at me

also I'd like to know at least something about why Vecna townreads chkflip though I don't think I'm getting that answer
Who says im townreading him?

Im trying to grasp why the fuck I got zero traction yesterday, while the person that was obv-clueless-town flailing about got hammered, even after making a super believable claim.

The shift in reads from people seems to just appear out of thin air.

Chkflip really didnt do anything to become more scummy. I really didnt do much to suddenly become more towny. Yet, the reads suddenly just do this shift. Yeah, I feel there is high scum incentive to push and cuddle this way if Im wrong on my earlier scumread on Chkflip.

Ill add to this though: Chkflip was a lot scummier on d1 than he has been on d2 so far. Yet noone was sheeping me. So now, im indeed highly suspicious
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:02 pm

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In post 1913, chkflip wrote:
In post 1559, chkflip wrote:VOTE: Lavender
In post 1594, chkflip wrote:Lynch Iecerint. Lavender town told and Iec doesn't know it because he couldn't.

Truuuuust me lynch Iec.
Oh snap. I did vote Lavender.

I did call out the town slip.

Where

Is

The

Fucking

Liiiiiiie

Because at first the lie was that you weren't mostly on vanity wagons. That's why you quoted two vote counts where you weren't on vanity wagons.

Now it's that I didn't vote Lavender and call out the town tell. The quotes above show that I did in fact do those things.

Soooo

WHERE IS THE FUCKING LIE.

AND WHY ISN'T THE LIE THE SAME THING THAT YOU JUST FUCKING SAID IT WAS, BUD.

You can't even choose what your narrative is at this point.

But I'm the fucking scumbutt here?

Excuse me while I laugh in your Goddamn face for a second.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

HA


HAHAHAHA
This literal adherance to events though......yikes
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 1922, TemporalLich wrote:Are you seriously suggesting we eliminate the town leader over setup spec? Congrats, you're now scum spewed
Its funny how youre the only one under the impression that he's been a townleader.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:10 pm

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maybe because you might be partners with chkflip?
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:33 pm

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so, am I starting to look towny, or am I scum? Which is it?
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:52 pm

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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:16 pm

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Hmmm, I don't know how I feel about Temp as scum, I need to look at my D1 interaction with him again.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:22 pm

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In post 1939, Vecna wrote:so, am I starting to look towny, or am I scum? Which is it?
I thought you were but you have an associative with chkflip

If chkflip somehow flips green then I will be surprised, but that would vindicate you
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:20 pm

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In post 1939, Vecna wrote:so, am I starting to look towny, or am I scum? Which is it?
I think he’s confused lol.
Not sure if that’s a scum tell though.
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 1942, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 1939, Vecna wrote:so, am I starting to look towny, or am I scum? Which is it?
I thought you were but you have an associative with chkflip

If chkflip somehow flips green then I will be surprised, but that would vindicate you
Can you explain your read on him in detail please.
Is it the same reason I have on him? Or is it a different reason all together on why you view him as scum.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:22 pm

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If I missed your reasoning, my apologies.
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:07 pm

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My mimd is al messed up by the chkflip-Logical confrontation. Like, I understand chkflip's side of it, but I'm not as sure I can comprehend what Logical's argument is. I mean, he missed chk's vote on Lavender. Fine. But even if chk didn't vote Lavender at all (which isn't true but let's say Logical did miss the vote).. why is that indicative of scum!chk at all?

Also, chk did notice the town!slip. I don't think scum would have, but even if they did they would not have pointed it out.

I did have a TR on Logical from D1, so I am not exactly ready to eliminate him based on a bad case that I don't even understand, but I sure as hell would appreciate it if he explained it to me in tiny little bits at a time. Once I understand that I think I may be able to assess TL next.

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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:11 pm

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Hey logical. Do you think you are obvtown to the point where scumreading you or questioning your alignment is a scumclaim?
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:22 pm

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In post 1947, Bingle wrote:Hey logical. Do you think you are obvtown to the point where scumreading you or questioning your alignment is a scumclaim?
Absolutely not.
If you believe I’m scum then you pressure me and interact with me.
Same can go for anyone.
As long as someone isn’t mechanically town, they will always be a chance for them to be scum.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:28 pm

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In post 1946, Almost50 wrote:My mimd is al messed up by the chkflip-Logical confrontation. Like, I understand chkflip's side of it, but I'm not as sure I can comprehend what Logical's argument is. I mean, he missed chk's vote on Lavender. Fine. But even if chk didn't vote Lavender at all (which isn't true but let's say Logical did miss the vote).. why is that indicative of scum!chk at all?

Also, chk did notice the town!slip. I don't think scum would have, but even if they did they would not have pointed it out.

I did have a TR on Logical from D1, so I am not exactly ready to eliminate him based on a bad case that I don't even understand, but I sure as hell would appreciate it if he explained it to me in tiny little bits at a time. Once I understand that I think I may be able to assess TL next.
Right so I Re-Evaluated and came to the conclusion that one of the 5 top wagons of Day 1 had Scum motivation behind it.
Chkflip led the most wagons.
So I pressured him and I didn’t really like his reaction towards it.
Although it wasn’t necessarily scummy, it also wasn’t Townie either.

Chkflip claimed he should be “^Rand Town” based upon him seeing lavender spew.
Despite others seeing it as well.
Saying his mind completely changed on Lavender.
I couldn’t remember him ever voting lavender though so I looked at the Vote Count and couldn’t find it.
Yes I should have read their ISO to find it and I eventually did and it makes me even more conflicted on him because when he showed me his vote on Lavender to prove himself accurate, he left out the rest of his post and only included the vote he made as if he felt the entire post was irrelevant except for his vote on Lavender.

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