Isn't that what i'm doing? Oh well, keep pushing false premises. Night sweetie.In post 198, Battle Mage wrote:If you're town, you could try actually scumhunting.
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i want a response to thisIn post 194, innocentvillager wrote:
you said yourself that there is no way to distinguish between them because they haven't posted, how would scum!you even push "one of them"?? this makes no senseIn post 181, NorwegianboyEE wrote:For example. I'm stating that if i were scum here, you could expect me to agree on you that one of Deimos/Nash are scum. And then i'd push for the one of them i know isn't town. But here i'm not wanting to vote either of them, because we don't know which one of them it is.
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this is a high quality post.In post 180, word321 wrote:norwee, with all due respect, ur arguments r insanely weak
bms meta has been on point, we need 100% town vote to lynch from the nature of the game so it is necessary to gather every support possible, u asked for my opinion when the only possible bad scenario is me trying to become unrelated to the hammer of a town from town persepective, when the most profitable alternative is getting towncred by the defense of the rashness by other town
well, nothing will change the fact that BM has his target, and I rly dnt think that innocent villager will change his mind at some point; that by itself is already damning, if anyone of em is town, cause that means we have 100% of a townhammer this round.
its a hole for both town and scum. The thing is that this kind of scenario has a possible alternative; death by overpush, where the arguments given become increasingly weaker and the idea that we r lynching scum and u r trying to ditch a defense becomes more and more plausible, in a self feeding loop. But given the evidence, and bc this is just a game, i rly would go for the hammer a priori.
thats what I mean.
and yes, u r right with ur probabilities; the state of the game pushes it that way.
but it is a fallacy to work only with raw probabilities; none of us have strong connections to each other by attitude. the fact we default to nash and deimos is not due to simple probabilities to defaulting on ppl who dnt talk, but by making connections with already aquired knowledge. its simply how the game developed.
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Something i had to ask.
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@Word321 Are you familiar with BM’s town meta? Are you seeing it here?Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Oh, thinking about it. BM did vote Deimos in RVS. So unless that was an RVS buss. BM/Nash seems like the most likely team.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Either way, i’d always advocate BM because that’s a bigger chance than guessing from the 2 unsorted slots.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Not that a BM/Word team is impossible. But once again, previous logic apply.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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on BMs meta:
yeah, I am
i think he is also aware of it
but ive seen some times now both in games with him and previous metareads on other occasions that focusing and dismantling like he is doing rn is pretty much part of the core of his meta
I dnt always agree with it, the level of confidence in being scum either dnt need to be that high or he has other ways of evaluating slots that i dnt see (i think he is pretty confident himself this time tho), but its just like that
I also think he plays with the notion of being a "suicidal" kind of player and making "blatant mistakes" to bait scum push opportunities, but I havent seen it here this time (exept perhaps the im town sheep me).
Either way, i think he is quite aware of his meta; but he DEFONETELY aint playing to his scum meta, and thats the point.Played inNewbie 1992,Newbie 1997,Newbie 1999,Large Normal 227,Newbie 2006,Open 784,Open 787,Newbie 2019, Open 790, Newbie 2022.
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I haven't seen you push 1 possible scum, despite your relentless spamming. it's a poor rate of return.In post 200, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Isn't that what i'm doing? Oh well, keep pushing false premises. Night sweetie.In post 198, Battle Mage wrote:If you're town, you could try actually scumhunting.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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word is a smart dude, and he's actually seen me as town. unlike you.In post 203, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Something i had to ask.
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@Word321 Are you familiar with BM’s town meta? Are you seeing it here?
also word is reminding me of the same solving style he used as town in our last game together.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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From your POV.In post 209, Battle Mage wrote:
I haven't seen you push 1 possible scum, despite your relentless spamming. it's a poor rate of return.In post 200, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Isn't that what i'm doing? Oh well, keep pushing false premises. Night sweetie.In post 198, Battle Mage wrote:If you're town, you could try actually scumhunting.
- you townread Word/IV
That leaves Deimos/Nausi or whatever his name was.
Are you aware that these players haven’t posted once and aren’t online? You’re basically saying that unless i’d "pushed" a slot with no content as scum. (Which is fucking laughable) i’m not town from your POV. Which just shows you aren’t genuine at all.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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now i definitely want a response to thisIn post 201, innocentvillager wrote:
i want a response to thisIn post 194, innocentvillager wrote:
you said yourself that there is no way to distinguish between them because they haven't posted, how would scum!you even push "one of them"?? this makes no senseIn post 181, NorwegianboyEE wrote:For example. I'm stating that if i were scum here, you could expect me to agree on you that one of Deimos/Nash are scum. And then i'd push for the one of them i know isn't town. But here i'm not wanting to vote either of them, because we don't know which one of them it is.
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Because one could make up association tells.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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can you make up a post that scum!you would write to plausibly try and push one of them? just try. if scum!you can do it then town!you can do it too. i just don't think this makes any senseIn post 213, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Because one could make up association tells.-
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Alright, then i guess it doesn’t make sense.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Why? This makes me TL you, scum would try to be logical in their approach.In post 219, innocentvillager wrote:Actually idk I’m kinda townreading Nash now, maybe it’s Deimos-Norway?im gonna put some dirt in your eyE-
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Not yet. But I think a correct townblock of two will win us the game.In post 222, innocentvillager wrote:did you read the thread? what are your thoughts on the thread so far?im gonna put some dirt in your eyE-
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One of my 100 lines of defense? Sure.In post 216, innocentvillager wrote:so you admit your defense doesn't work?Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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