Redneck Mafia GAME OVER PARTNER!

[Vecna]

need i remind you that when DGB was saying "Let's kill the third party," a bunch of you said, "Let Elsa Jay vig it."

So then someone else claims vig, and it's "Oh Elsa, you so silly"

this shit right here is what's wrong with towns these days

elsa jay just claimed generic pr so the 3p would have to guess.

[Vecna]

It says Vigilante in green, Galron. My alignment and the even-night modifier is described below that.

First of all this isn't how Role PMs work, like, at all.

Second, look at the flipped PRs and compare them to this.

Spoiler: Skeeter Wallis

Hillbilly PR

Skeeter Wallis

You are a

Lawman.

You come from a long line of Lawmen, all the way back to your great, great, great grandaddy.
Albeit, they have not been the best at that job.
You've vowed to be the best Lawman that the Wallis family has ever produced.
Getting rid of these

Rednecks

is your first big task.
Show this town you're not like the

Lawmen

that have come before you.

Each night you may target a player. They cannot die, or perform any action that night.

You win when all of the

Rednecks

have been run out of town.

Spoiler: Diemon Dave (Iecerint)

Hillbilly PR

Diemon Dave

You are a

Kung-Fu Hillbilly

After your short stint on the Jerry Springer show, you had lots of fame.
That quickly died out, and now you've settled in Wiltwickee.
This has become your new home. You even opened up your own dojo to make sure all the kids of this town can stay safe.

Each night you may target a player. You will be told if they are a

Redneck

or a

Hillbilly.

Thanks to your extensive training, this ability is untraceable.

You win when all of the

Rednecks

have been run out of town.

YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT BAKER

WHO FLAVORED JAILKEEPER AND NINJA COP INTO THAT

JUST WENT "yeah nah we'll just call you a vigilante"

NAH B

this is convincing though

[Vecna]

gadzooks

Elsa is not a vig

also a good spot

[Galron]

I can almost see the mod using "vigilante" just because I don't have the imagination to know what to replace it with. BUT I would think he'd make an effort to do so. Another BUT: Elsa's been a liar from the beginning and User digging up 1403 gives me pause. Otherwise my vote would be on Thun right now.

Here's where I am. The whole Alchemist, Elsa, Logic, Iecerint debacle is a CF, and there's no intent to sort it today. Whatever. I think letting it go another night is a mistake. With this Thun claim and the Elsa claim (Elsa says she still "gave" Alchemist something and Alchemist says she's trolling -- who's zooming who?) I want to fake kill Elsa because she's common to both situations. If not, she's just going to mess with us tomorrow, and everyone knows that something is going to happen with this 3P deal where something is going to go sideways and he won't be confirmed again. If we're not going to oust the alleged 3P then let's at least get rid of one of the components close to that situation and close to the Thun claim.

[chkflip]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[Logicalicaltist]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

I can get on this!
VOTE: Doctor Drew

[Vecna]

ofcourse, pre-determiming what your fakeclaim is gonna be, and then softing it once, is not that uncommon as scum.

[Vecna]

but chkflip doing the "it cant coexist with my role thing" the naming argument, and now his vote is suddenly elsewhere...

[Logicalicaltist]

but chkflip doing the "it cant coexist with my role thing" the naming argument, and now his vote is suddenly elsewhere...

So what’s your current read on Chkflip?

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Dr Drew

[chkflip]

So what’s your current read on Chkflip?

Isn't it obvious?

Don't be...



...illlogical.


YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

[chkflip]

but chkflip doing the "it cant coexist with my role thing" the naming argument, and now his vote is suddenly elsewhere...

To be honest, it feels like I'm the only one that gives a fuck and I'm dead tonight if scum doesn't believe my claim, so, it's not on me anymore bubba. I don't have the energy to shout from the mountaintops anymore.

He's the elimination I want, trust. But it's like... fuck it if town ain't on board.

[chkflip]

By the by, and I know you know this, but testing the fucking waters instead of just outright voting me is fence-sitty bullshit you've done all game and I'm pretty tired of seeing it.

[Bingle]

gadzooks

Elsa is not a vig

also a good spot

He also softclaimed generic PR.

What the fuck is going on?

Pooky’s just gifposting and I’m a 3p that needs Actions used on me. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Ill target you

I'm not really a fan of the claim, both for the fact that even night vig doesn't really preclude an odd night vig like pk's crumb was hinting at (that's exactly the kind of symmetry mods love to use), PK's complete lack of clarification regarding the Alchemist role today (marginally explained by the fact he hasn't done shit), and chk's point wrt a lack of flavor in the claim.

I'm MORE not a fan of the reactions to it. I am 100% convinced there is scum in our PR claims. I was vaguely hoping for a VT claim, as that would have been majorly inconsistent with pk's play.

[Bingle]

I can almost see the mod using "vigilante" just because I don't have the imagination to know what to replace it with. BUT I would think he'd make an effort to do so. Another BUT: Elsa's been a liar from the beginning and User digging up 1403 gives me pause. Otherwise my vote would be on Thun right now.

Here's where I am. The whole Alchemist, Elsa, Logic, Iecerint debacle is a CF, and there's no intent to sort it today. Whatever. I think letting it go another night is a mistake. With this Thun claim and the Elsa claim (Elsa says she still "gave" Alchemist something and Alchemist says she's trolling -- who's zooming who?) I want to fake kill Elsa because she's common to both situations. If not, she's just going to mess with us tomorrow, and everyone knows that something is going to happen with this 3P deal where something is going to go sideways and he won't be confirmed again. If we're not going to oust the alleged 3P then let's at least get rid of one of the components close to that situation and close to the Thun claim.

If Alch is a player in the game on D4 I'll vote him. If he's not, IDGAF.

Why is it you try to bring every conversation back to the claimed 3p instead of looking for actual groupscum?

[Bingle]

VOTE: TLich

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: TLich

What's this vote for?

[Bingle]

Getting rid of scum...?

[TemporalLich]

oh, your vote is an actual one.

Please give me a summary of your feelings about me, because your vote looks like a naked vote seemingly put on to pressure me to claim (which I'm not doing until I'm in the tent, as in I'm at E-1 and someone intends to hammer)

[chkflip]

Homeboy disappearing relit my fire.

VOTE: Thun

Let's burn this candle.

[Logicalicaltist]

Hmm yeah I want Elsa Jay’s Full reads.

[Logicalicaltist]

Same with Drew and Galron.

[Bingle]

oh, your vote is an actual one.

Please give me a summary of your feelings about me, because your vote looks like a naked vote seemingly put on to pressure me to claim (which I'm not doing until I'm in the tent, as in I'm at E-1 and someone intends to hammer)

I posted a case on you not long ago, which I have since repeatedly asked people to engage with. I have since expressed that I didn't like your reaction to Thun's claim. One could surmise that my feelings on you are those expressed in the case I posted on you and that I don't like your reaction to Thun's claim. I don't think you're an idiot, and this feels like you're trying to play one with this frankly useless line of questioning.

[Vecna]

By the by, and I know you know this, but testing the fucking waters instead of just outright voting me is fence-sitty bullshit you've done all game and I'm pretty tired of seeing it.

I think you also know very well I dont care about whether im sitting on a fence, and I rarely give a shit how people feel about my process of reaching my conclusions. If im the only one that thinks youre town ill still defend you to death (like with votato last game we played together) and if im the only one that thinks youre scum I also really dont give a shit being the only vanity voter just for the sake of it.

Having said all that, I really didnt care for your "everyone not one of these 6 votes is wasting their shit, blabla". Especially now that youre actually encouraging me to do that.

But whatever to all that. Im still in the ongoing process of making up my mind. Your play this game is completely wtf-all-over-the-place. Im not used from you whatsoever that youre trying to be the bad cop townleader trying to forcefully get people to do what you want em to do. You were much less inclined to make people do what you wanted them to do in all our prior games. Whether its just a change in style and youre fighting for your beliefs, or youre openwolfing to kingdom come out of some sort of desperation because all the alternatives are likely to land on scum.....eh. fuck me if I know.

So, ill enjoy my spot here on the fence.

[Vecna]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Speedwagoning this shit also feels completely fine.

The promised participation still hasnt happened, and by the slots own admission this needs to be a thing.