Redneck Mafia GAME OVER PARTNER!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:12 pm

In post 2719, chkflip wrote:Hey Thun go ahead and fucking shoot me toNight I'm pretty done with this shit show.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:12 pm

I trust Bingle and Pooky the most RN.
I’m thinking Titus is potential the scum here I just gotta figure out with who.
I think it’s possible Thun is Mafia that killed them but it’s more likely they are actual Even-Night Vigilante here and I don’t believe scum would have 2 Vigilantes or even both claim Vigilante.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:14 pm

In post 3000, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2719, chkflip wrote:Hey Thun go ahead and fucking shoot me toNight I'm pretty done with this shit show.

I think I get what your trying to say?
You don’t believe I’m actually a Tracker let alone Scum Tracker.
Fair.
But how about this.
By using your magical GiF’s choose any name on the player list.
And I’ll track em tonight.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:16 pm

In post 2719, chkflip wrote:Hey Thun go ahead and fucking shoot me toNight I'm pretty done with this shit show.

In post 2341, Thun wrote:I'll shoot the racket tonight to prove myself.

In post 2575, Thun wrote:
@Almost50 @Elsa @Titus @Galron:

Why are you voting me? I can shoot chkflip tonight and potentially confirm myself. I'm aware scum could have a roleblocker, but if they do, it means they have to roleblock me (if I'm right on chk) over any other claimed investigatives or other roles. If I'm wrong on chk and they let me kill him, or if they don't have a roleblocker, I confirm myself. It's a win-win to keep me around for at least a night. Relocate your votes please.

In post 2956, chkflip wrote:Log is partner if this flips scum. They hard focused on me in fucking tandem at the beginning of the day. That's not coincidental.

Pedit: I already claimed modified vengeful town, yes.

I kill who kills me.

Bingle · Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:17 pm

So before EoD (And yes, I do mean before E-1 we continue voting up to prevent a selfhammer) I want to hear from Alch and Thun.

I should probably also look at mechanical implications of roles we have.

Light setup spec says probably 2 remaining scum, definitely no more than 2, which means a LC/Thun 1v1 hard clears DGB. If pookyGB is a masonry as they've crumbed, that also hardclears pooky. Both are very town by their reaction to TL wagon yesterday. A 4.5 person scumteam with a conditional vig is way too much power for any 16p setup. I also need to colorize some VCs, I think.

Vecna looks a hell of a lot worse post TL flip, considering the strength of the TL role in scum hands. I think it's a safe assumption that chk was the bookie target for D2 as that would make sense with the claim and TL's approach to the game.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:21 pm

In post 2341, Thun wrote:I'll shoot the racket tonight to prove myself.

In post 2994, Logicalicaltist wrote:I tracked Thun they visited Chkflip.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:22 pm

If we were both partners why would I push him when I know it’ll look bad if he gets eliminated?
Yeah sure maybe if I didn’t know who he was going to push that might be different but he legitimately chose Via night action that he is going to push Chkflip the following day. He just got lucky that his “top Town read” (me) was pushing Chkflip and decided to Sheeping me.
I also said I felt uneasy about them and that I believed they could have been potentially pocketing me and I was right to think that.
I’m still waiting on my target tonight. Who’s it gonna be?

Bingle · Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:23 pm

In post 3003, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2719, chkflip wrote:Hey Thun go ahead and fucking shoot me toNight I'm pretty done with this shit show.

In post 2341, Thun wrote:I'll shoot the racket tonight to prove myself.

In post 2575, Thun wrote:
@Almost50 @Elsa @Titus @Galron:

Why are you voting me? I can shoot chkflip tonight and potentially confirm myself. I'm aware scum could have a roleblocker, but if they do, it means they have to roleblock me (if I'm right on chk) over any other claimed investigatives or other roles. If I'm wrong on chk and they let me kill him, or if they don't have a roleblocker, I confirm myself. It's a win-win to keep me around for at least a night. Relocate your votes please.

In post 2956, chkflip wrote:Log is partner if this flips scum. They hard focused on me in fucking tandem at the beginning of the day. That's not coincidental.

Pedit: I already claimed modified vengeful town, yes.

I kill who kills me.

I mean... That's kind of irrelevant until Thun comes and claims his shot.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:25 pm

In post 3005, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2341, Thun wrote:I'll shoot the racket tonight to prove myself.

In post 2994, Logicalicaltist wrote:I tracked Thun they visited Chkflip.

To confirm they aren’t lying about their role. (Although I suppose I didn’t really think this through as scum can also just kill Chkflip as a NK, was kinda busy and needed to make the best decision and decided to go with Thun)
Plus if they did visit them but something happened and Chkflip was still alive I could defend them being like “No, they did visit you”.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:26 pm

It’s like no one gave me a target so I was debating between Thun and the 3P Again.
Not my fault no one wanted to give me a tracking target.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:31 pm

In post 3008, Logicalicaltist wrote:To confirm they aren’t lying about their role.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:33 pm

In post 3009, Logicalicaltist wrote:It’s like no one gave me a target so I was debating between Thun and the 3P Again.
Not my fault no one wanted to give me a tracking target.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:37 pm

In post 3009, Logicalicaltist wrote:Not my fault no one wanted to give me a tracking target.

Bingle · Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:39 pm

Provisionally based on claims going the way I assume they will go, this is roughly where I'm at.

Bingle
DrippingGoofball
Thun
PookyTheMagicalBear
Elsa Jay
Froppy
Titus
Galron
Vecna
Logicalicaltist

Alchemist21

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:47 pm

In post 3013, Bingle wrote:Provisionally based on claims going the way I assume they will go, this is roughly where I'm at.

Bingle
DrippingGoofball
Thun
PookyTheMagicalBear
Elsa Jay
Froppy
Titus
Galron
Vecna
Logicalicaltist

Alchemist21

So you also believe I’m scum?
Yeah great.
I guess I should have expected Scum to put me in this position after the TL Flip.
Probably going to ISO TL later.
Probably can’t defend myself out of this one but I can at least go on the aggressive and make Reads and solves and stuff.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:48 pm

I mean the Traitor is also dead especially considering we have another 3P this helps us allot.
Not sure how many scum are left but looking at TL and Almost50’s roles I’m going to say “2”.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:49 pm

Could be 3 I Guess but I’m not sure. I’m not a balancer or anything.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:53 pm

In post 3002, Logicalicaltist wrote:
Scum Tracker
.

In post 1690, The Baker wrote:Each night you may target a player. You will be told if they are a Redneck or a Hillbilly.
Thanks to your extensive training,
this ability is untraceable
.

Bingle · Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:54 pm

If there are three scum remaining I'm going to have harsh words for Boon at the end of the game. Scum having control of 3 kills and a 4.5 person scumteam in a 16p game is nonsense.

(Relooking at the A50 flip, he was a vig in addition to a traitor.)

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:55 pm

In post 3017, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3002, Logicalicaltist wrote:
Scum Tracker
.

In post 1690, The Baker wrote:Each night you may target a player. You will be told if they are a Redneck or a Hillbilly.
Thanks to your extensive training,
this ability is untraceable
.

Ok so you understand now I can’t be lying about being a Tracker yes?
Ok no why would I waste my ability on a 3P and a Vigi Claim?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:01 pm

In post 3019, Logicalicaltist wrote:Ok no why would I waste my ability on a 3P and a Vigi Claim?

Bingle · Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:06 pm

Alright, I'm gonna peace out until we've heard from more people. I don't see continuing to push LC as particularly useful without people who I need to sort reacting.

Froppy · Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:32 pm

In post 3014, Logicalicaltist wrote:
In post 3013, Bingle wrote:Provisionally based on claims going the way I assume they will go, this is roughly where I'm at.

Bingle
DrippingGoofball
Thun
PookyTheMagicalBear
Elsa Jay
Froppy
Titus
Galron
Vecna
Logicalicaltist

Alchemist21

So you also believe I’m scum?
Yeah great.

I guess I should have expected Scum to put me in this position after the TL Flip.

Probably going to ISO TL later.
Probably can’t defend myself out of this one but I can at least go on the aggressive and make Reads and solves and stuff.

How did scum put you in this position?

Vecna · Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:19 pm

lol

Sorry Chk. Shouldve stuck with my initial d2 gut feeling. Well done

Vecna · Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:25 pm

In post 1885, Vecna wrote:
In post 1883, TemporalLich wrote:You and Doctor Drew are starting to look townier with your later posts... that's what an upward trend is...

Logical is on a downward trend but a strong TR shouldn't be easy to dispel with just gut feeling and circumstantial evidence.

Bingle just feels like Bingle's meta, don't see it as alignment indicative.
What if I think you might be scum that got told you can gently nudge me and join me to keep pushing chkflip into a mislynch?

That seems like an easy line to take for scum today

In post 1935, Vecna wrote:
In post 1900, TemporalLich wrote:yeah I'm not sure why Vecna is trying to throw a small look of shade at me

also I'd like to know at least something about why Vecna townreads chkflip though I don't think I'm getting that answer
Who says im townreading him?

Im trying to grasp why the fuck I got zero traction yesterday, while the person that was obv-clueless-town flailing about got hammered, even after making a super believable claim.

The shift in reads from people seems to just appear out of thin air.

Chkflip really didnt do anything to become more scummy. I really didnt do much to suddenly become more towny. Yet, the reads suddenly just do this shift. Yeah, I feel there is high scum incentive to push and cuddle this way if Im wrong on my earlier scumread on Chkflip.

Ill add to this though: Chkflip was a lot scummier on d1 than he has been on d2 so far. Yet noone was sheeping me. So now, im indeed highly suspicious

So Bingle, is this a SvS interaction, given what scum was trying to do yesterday?