A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]

[Lady 6]

Also G5, I want to know how your read on L8 has progressed since you've paired with her.

[Lady 3]

His insistence that G3 is scummy for being unhappy that his town reads weren't pairing with his town reads is... a logical argument I do not follow.

it's a scummy argument you don't follow you can come out and say it

[Lady 3]

I want to lose this mafia game because I let dewgong sherlock be last pair

[Gentleman 5]

This leaves a bunch of other pairs that I unfortunately don't have any strong T/T feelings about. Basically, I town read almost all the ladies, which feels weird, and it's definitely not good that I'm mixed or null on all of G1/G4/G5/G6. The one I most feel like I should be able to get a good handle and want to town read is G5. So I'd like to talk to you, G5, next time we're both around. Specifically, I'm curious about your read on me and if its changed at all after G7's flip. You've asked a few people what they about G7 asking me out early in the game. What is your conclusion about that?

Ghosty 8 has convinced me that it would be a poor move, as Gent 7 would have to be acting poorly on purpose in order to justify being turned down. A move that would wind up sacrificing him.

So, I'm thinking you're town right now. I'm thinking Ghosty 8 is town.

[Gentleman 5]

Also G5, I want to know how your read on L8 has progressed since you've paired with her.

I don't see a connection between Gent 7 and Ghosty 8, so the flip itself doesn't change anything for me.

There is one part where after he starts using AtE/Giving up he says our pair and the ic pair are both town, but I don't value that very highly.

She is definitely putting in a lot of effort to read other people in the pt, and I do not see an agenda.

[Gentleman 5]

Basically, I town read almost all the ladies, which feels weird

It's not impossible for all the scum to be in the gents.

Gentleman 9 is the closest thing I have to harder scum read right now.

I have also arrived at this point

[Gentleman 5]

You've asked a few people what they about G7 asking me out early in the game. What is your conclusion about that?

If it helps, I've reached my conclusion when I asked Lady 8 about it in my PT. Me asking other people is to see if anyone disagrees/so they can see what I'm seeing

[Gentleman 8]

a man after my own heart

the proper way to abuse neighbourhoods

[Gentleman 5]

I think the two slots I want to see flip the most right now are Gentleman 4 and Gentleman 9

[Lady 6]

I can't help but shake the feeling that Gentleman 4 is player that I know and also specifically one that I am terrible at reading and it's throwing me a little bit

[Lady 6]

It's not impossible for all the scum to be in the gents.

True, it just feels off because it makes it very hard to get pairs where I feel equally good about both members

[Lady 6]

Also G5, I want to know how your read on L8 has progressed since you've paired with her.

I don't see a connection between Gent 7 and Ghosty 8, so the flip itself doesn't change anything for me.

There is one part where after he starts using AtE/Giving up he says our pair and the ic pair are both town, but I don't value that very highly.

She is definitely putting in a lot of effort to read other people in the pt, and I do not see an agenda.

Yeah I wasn't so much talking about how G7 changed your read and just if how things have gone in the PT / what you've seen in thread

[Gentleman 5]

What makes it hard for you to read me?

[Lady 6]

I think for the most part I agree with a lot of what you say. Most of your reads have been fairly consensus though I think so that's not too hard. I think the way you ask questions and what you ask is decent. There are posts like

#1677

that gut ping me as town.

But I feel like there's nothing specific I can point and just say confidently, "aw yeah that's town." Honestly, I think it's mostly just me doubting myself and being paranoid because if you're town your pair is super strong imo and should be endgame

[Lady 6]

What do you think of Gentleman 9's push on L1 and her reaction to that?

[Lady 6]

Spoiler:

maybe probably its just as obvious as l1 cry

VOTE: L1-G6

i also didn't like l1's princess crown stuff it felt like she was trying way too hard to pair with the prince g8

Why would scum Cry Lady 1 want to get with the prince?

safest partner + this prince reads very kind and doesn't feel like would leave his own ball

I don't get G9.

I didn't mind pairing with the prince but I openly said I don't want to at the same time. If he was wolf reading me for that I'd understand, but he's wolf reading me for something that just...didn't happen.

I think it's actually relatively townie?

That is a good sequence for Lady 2, yeah

I'm starting to not get Gent 9's takes much.

Does Gent 9 go out of the gate swinging at me though as a wolf? A slot that seemed to be mostly townread

this stuff specifically

[Gentleman 5]

I don't see why he thinks Lady 1 is obvious if she is mafia, though. I don't agree that the prince is the safest partner in the dance setup if you're mafia, because when you don't die at night while paired with the ic everybody suspects you. I also think he's wrong in how he thinks Gent 8 would act but if he thinks that Lady 1 would think that then it's still a valid point. I don't think that Lady 1 thinks that Gent 8 would never leave the dance.

[Lady 6]

can you elaborate on your l1 town read?

[Gentleman 8]

I also think he's wrong in how he thinks Gent 8 would act

it amuses me because i would think even people who have no clue about me would have figured that out by now

volatile is my middle name

my parents had an odd sense of humour. "we'll call him gentleman volatile 8 - none of the kids at school will pick on him with a name like that!"

rough childhood

[Gentleman 5]

can you elaborate on your l1 town read?

I find that it is hard for me to do that, It is mostly based off of their tone in the early game - I understand that's not a very strong read. If I look at them now... I still like them for town.

Both Lady 1 and Gent 6 have expressed that they are probably not making it to the end of the dance

[Gentleman 4]

So why is my pair being voted? I'm pretty sure you can look at me telling you guys to let G2 talk as a positive for not being scum with G7.

I missed this post, found it while ISOing G4
This sucks

Like bussing scum trying to reap the towncred from their bus

I can see how you think of it like that. I was just pointing out something I did that makes it unlikely for me to be scum with G7. Tbh, I don’t think I would ever post something like that as scum because it is just obviously scummy. If I was scum, I’d at least wait a little longer to see if more votes piled on or if our wagon died to say such a thing.
Will check up on everything else later. 2122 is a good post!

[Gentleman 9]

G5 is the 3 points you raised on page 83 the points you have against me? Because i think they are very invalid

[Gentleman 9]

His insistence that G3 is scummy for being unhappy that his town reads weren't pairing with his town reads is... a logical argument I do not follow. I also didn't really think his attack on Gentleman 5 earlier in the game was very believable. Like I don't think it takes a lot of legwork to understand why G5 might've thought L8 was someone he could A. sort well, B. get along with, C. have some doubts about, and D. value that criteria enough to make a proposal when he did

This game is not standard mafia in which pairing matters a whole ton compared. Understanding why 5 would want to pair with 8 is critical. And I think G3 is a good player to understand the nuance of town scum matches are not necessarily bad, but he's lumping them all trivially in the same bucket

[Gentleman 9]

The fact that you are just blanketing over seems incredibly disengenuous.
VOTE: L6-g3

[Gentleman 5]

I also want to know why his read on me/my pairing changed, which I've been wanting an answer to

Why aren't you answering this?