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Post Post #3225 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:12 am

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In post 1793, TemporalLich wrote:A lead rist for the crazy mess that is D2:

TR
TL
NT
HN
NS
SL
SR
3P


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- Has a claimed inno by Pooky, no reason to doubt said inno as of now. Still trying to push an Alchemist exile though.
Logicalicaltist
- Town leader, on a scummy trend D2 so take with a grain of salt.
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- The GIFposting reduces content but I have a feeling the informed claim is true so I am putting this at townlean level. Hasn't posted yet in D2.
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- Still seems like his towny self, but I have a feeling A50 is more reserved here.
Galron
- Laid-back townie who contributes content to the game.
pisskop
- Memey but an ISO skim looked content-rich.
Vecna
- Starting to look very towny now.
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- Claimed townsiding 3P. Apparently logical got roleblocked? Alch might be fakeclaiming, but this will resolve itself D3.

Doctor Drew
- Seeing an upward trend here.
username
- I'm not sure what impression I get from the ISO. At least it's content-rich. Neutral trend here.
Bingle
- Feels like Bingle to me, yep. This isn't TRable though.
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- Still as scummy as ever, might even be on a downward trend.
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- Votes with scummy intent, also D1 got stalled to heck and back despite his pushiness so I think that was planned as well.

[Scum]
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Post Post #3226 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:13 am

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In post 761, TemporalLich wrote:here's a quick lead rist, don't send me to the aether if it's wrong because I skimmed everyone's ISO for this:

TR
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NT
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3P


[Town]


DrippingGoofball
- Has a claimed inno by Pooky, no reason to doubt said inno as of now.
Logicalicaltist
- With great pushing and town initiative this is the townie we need.
PookyTheMagicalBear
- The GIFposting reduces content but I have a feeling the informed claim is true so I am putting this at townlean level.
Almost50
- Still seems like his towny self, but I have a feeling A50 is more reserved here.
chkflip
- He's starting to look more promising as time goes on...
pisskop
- Memey but an ISO skim looked content-rich.
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- A decently good ISO, is probably a good post.
Lavender
- Not much content in the ISO but I feel a townish vibe.
Alchemist21
- Claimed townsiding 3P, I don't have a reason to doubt this.

username
- I'm not sure what impression I get from the ISO. At least it's content-rich.
Pine
- Unreadable due to lack of game-related info, defaulting to hard null (assuming V/LAishness here)
gobbledygook
- Lurker with contentless ISO, is approaching info but actually isn't info
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- Memey, totally not concerned with appearances. However his content looks a little scummy.
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- I don't like the ISO. Sorry, but I just don't. It doesn't ping me town.
Vecna
- I really don't like the ISO, the readlist is bad in light of future info and feels abrasive to me

[Scum]


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Post Post #3227 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:16 am

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WHY IS SCUM-LICH FIGHTING ME, A PERSISTENT TOWNIE, TO SAVE ALCHEMIST INSTEAD OF ROLLING WITH IT AND ENCOURAGING ME?
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Post Post #3228 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:52 am

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There’s a strong possibility scum thought I was their Traitor.
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Post Post #3229 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:07 am

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A traitor claiming 3p? Why didn't I think of that?
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Post Post #3230 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:54 am

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In post 3215, Alchemist21 wrote:Looking at the role PMs of A50 and TL, I’m inclined to agree with Bingle that biscuits was more likely to be a signal between Traitor and scum.

Logical is backing Thun’s claim so Thun can only be scum if Logicalicaltist is also scum and they’re willing to tie themselves to each other like this which is extremely unlikely.

The poison comment from Username is odd. There is a phrase called “poisoning the well” which is common. It’s not exactly the same thing as what Username was saying but it could be in the same vein. To call it damning hinges on the scumteam knowing something incredibly specific about A50’s role. That knowledge could be possible if they rolecopped A50 or if they reflected the biscuit back at A50 and were informed what they reflected. Given the above point that Thun almost certainly killed chk, the simplest and most likely explanation of A50’s death is that the scumteam killed him and they would not have done that if they thought A50 was their Traitor so the signaling hypothesis falls apart here. For it to hold up the scumteam has to be exactly Thun, Logical, and Username, and I just don’t see scum tying themselves to each other for a vig claim after losing one. I doubt there are even 3 more scum remaining because 4 group scum + 1 traitor with the potential to have 3 kills a Night is too much power, even for a bastard game.

It might not be right now but I’m going to go through A50’s iso and see what their reads were like. I can’t remember how most people were reading A50 at the time. Was he widely Townread?
Nice circular reasoning lol.

Hint: Nightkills can also be tracked. Cultist can totally be town tracking the nightkill

Hint: A50 signalled he was dying, thus scum killing him is absolutely not more likely than him dying from his own poisonous biscuit as he signalled.

Hint: Biscuits and cookies are synonyms for each other (esp in brittain/europe, murica butchered the meaning behind biscuits to something else I believe). A50 even made a joke about it, asking whether they preferred a biscuit over a cookie.

Im not sure if youre purposefully being ignorant because you want us to mislynch again so you can win, but eesh
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Post Post #3231 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:03 pm

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In post 3228, Alchemist21 wrote:There’s a strong possibility scum thought I was their Traitor.
I don't think so
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Post Post #3232 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:04 pm

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VOTE: Alchemist21
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Post Post #3233 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:08 pm

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VOTE: Alchemist

Maybe ill have higher chances of getting my froppy flip if this is the alternative
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Post Post #3234 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:37 pm

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I’m not sure on this.
Like Even though Alchemist has a Red Check on Titus I still think Titus could be GF.
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Post Post #3235 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:40 pm

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No vecna. You’re trying to come up with any reason why your reachy solve totally works but I just highlighted why it has too many assumptions that don’t hold up. OMGUS’ing me isn’t going to magically make your solve a good one.
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Post Post #3236 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:42 pm

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VOTE: Logicalicaltist

Doubtcasting the Cop clear is just the latest thing that’s been a red flag to me from this slot.
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Post Post #3237 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:47 pm

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I swept all your highlights away, but its good to know you only care to comment when you get votes on you.

Also, you state you agree with bingle that people were signalling with the word biscuit instead, but then proceed to pretend that no signaling took place?

Your entire argument hinges on the fact that you did not account for the nightkill being trackable.

You can call it reachy all you want, but youre the one who cant logic properly. But maybe either you or Bingle is just informed of what really happened and youre trying to white knight full-force without realizing how bad your logic actually is.
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Post Post #3238 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:52 pm

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I guess its also possible that TL received a poisonous biscuit and that that is why he was bussed and scum thought A50 was a hostile 3p or w/e
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Post Post #3239 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:01 pm

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In post 3237, Vecna wrote:you only care to comment when you get votes on you.
That’s not true and you know it. Fuck off.
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Post Post #3240 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:02 pm

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React to the important parts instead
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Post Post #3241 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:03 pm

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Yeah that comment would work better on me Vec. Not Alch.
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Post Post #3242 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:17 pm

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There are quite a bunch of ways scum couldve known about A50's shit:

-The far-fetched reflector theory (still quite possible with pisskop being a JOAT that RB'd Cultist N1 and activated the reflection N2)

-Simple rolecop

-Being targetted by A50. Notice how _NOONE_ has claimed being targetted by it while A50 potentially has had 3 nights of sending out cookies and people are informed of receiving a poisonous biscuit.
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Post Post #3243 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:19 pm

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And once again:

A50 literally posted the cookie monster Gif. He wanted certain people to know that he had sent em those biscuits. Why would a scum traitor do that? Unless he was certain it was his teammate he had sent a cookie to?

The only alternative is that he just decided not to sent anyone any biscuits and was just setting people up to take the fall.
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Post Post #3244 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:32 pm

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In post 3239, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3237, Vecna wrote:you only care to comment when you get votes on you.
That’s not true and you know it. Fuck off.
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Post Post #3245 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:33 pm

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In post 3242, Vecna wrote:Notice how _NOONE_ has claimed being targetted by it while A50
YEAH

THAT
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Post Post #3246 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:39 pm

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Since you and pooky are such believers, wheres the vote support?
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Post Post #3247 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 3243, Vecna wrote:And once again:

A50 literally posted the cookie monster Gif. He wanted certain people to know that he had sent em those biscuits. Why would a scum traitor do that? Unless he was certain it was his teammate he had sent a cookie to?

The only alternative is that he just decided not to sent anyone any biscuits and was just setting people up to take the fall.
I wonder if the poisoned cookies affected scum and town equally.
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Post Post #3248 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 3246, Vecna wrote:Since you and pooky are such believers, wheres the vote support?
You got mine.
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Post Post #3249 (ISO) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:41 pm

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Hmm guess its only been 2 nights since its day 3 now.

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