Well, L7bandana said "I know I'm dead but what really matters is picking a good final T-T pair", and then beeboy pointed out some flaws in his follow through on that. And now currently we have G8 pointing out some flaws in G2's follow through on his deathwilling gameplay and it seem very clear he's willing to sacrifice large amounts of postgame influence for a small amount of survival chance and that does a lot to negate the bonus points for entertaining a paradigm where he's removed from this game.In post 3472, Lady 8 wrote:I get the sense from Gent 2's posting recently that he's trying to solve the game-- what I mean about that is, I think it's a mostly foregone conclusion that Gent 2 is flipping soon. I think Gent 2 knows that as well.
Detailing plans for who should and shouldnt be in the endgame, trying to strike a deal with me, stuff like that feels unnecessary if he's just about to flip red. And also could potentially be hurting his partner too giving so much extra info. It's sort of like in a regular game when someone is at L-1 and they're obviously going to die-- scum would probably favour giving up to not expose anything to help us find their partner, town will try to dictate what we should do next
In Gent 7's case it was kind of LAMISTy/WIFOMy to save himself (it was just a 1v1), whereas here I don't get the feeling Gent 2 is trying to save himself by WIFOMing us out. I don't think he can and I dont think he thinks he can either. He'd have to push so many miselims, whereas in Gent 1's case he just had to beat out one person.
I also am pretty much fine with his picks for the endgame, if I assume his pair is T/T.
I don't know if that all makes sense. Lady 4 I also think is town i believe.
I have much less strong feelings on G4/L2. Some things by Gent 4 I vaguely like on occasion but it's not big things. Lady 2 I feel I'm being unfair to, especially now that she's V/LA atm.
But I'm much not enjoying this current gamestate where it kind of feels like we're playing as if we only have one shot, where in reality we can knock out like 90% of the players. I know this is my fault too for not deciding on my favourite flavour of ice cream or whatever, im very sorry for that. It's vanilla tho btw
VOTE: Gent 4 / Lady 2
The baked in assumption you seem to have here is that G2 would see dying during f8 as an equal outcome to dying during f16. I don't think that's a given. I think; when excepting away a special case "obvious day1 scum" which most games don't have and doesn't happen to good players, and I have been this thing eleventeen times, aside from that phenomenon I think delaying scum exiles greatly benefits the scum due to the impact it has on the town dialogue (and that might even be true in the special case of obvscum d1 exiles where the scum votes Sane Cop with D3 IC, I'm just reserving judgment there). So I disagree with that assumption G2's knowledge he's not going to be last pair guarantees he doesn't exhibit this play as scum
