A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]

[Lady 6]

he said work was just keeping him late ;_;

[Lady 6]

I also do not like G5's treatment of G7 whatsoever but I could be conf-biasing on that front

[Gentleman 4]

I don't like the people who seemed complacent with 4-2 hangs after pre dance.

[Lady 6]

VOTE: G5

[Gentleman 4]

I'm not sure how much I agree with that vote even though I was scumreading him. His iso seems ok upon a glance, and you might be conf biased with G1 tbh. What were the bad interactions with G7?

[Lady 6]

also I don't know how to say this exactly but G4 pushing G5 and then searching for reasons back there wasn't scummy

It wasn't "survivalist" because survivalism would mean G4 votes for his counter wagon or goes for a target where there is more interest like G3 or G9. and like I would argue scum generally are very careful about making sure they can justify all of their reads (a common newb scum tell is that they over justify every single read) instead of just making random gut pushes

[Lady 6]

His iso seems ok upon a glance

literally everyone's iso looks ok upon a glance in this game

how easy is it to fake his sorting / progressions?

[Gentleman 6]

It wasn't "survivalist" because survivalism would mean G4 votes for his counter wagon or goes for a target where there is more interest like G3 or G9.

Counterpoint... Lady the 1st isn't nearly as townread globally as you make out.

[Lady 6]

What were the bad interactions with G7?

Spoiler:

I think it's productive to discuss which of the gentlemen we want to leave behind at this point. I liked Sherlock 3s entrance and I've been town reading teenisg4. Gorilla boy g7 is my least town gentleman read at the moment.

My take: Gentleman 7 has a good chance of being abrasive town, because the way they're acting isn't conductive to getting a dance partner and perhaps his team would be telling him to do otherwise

From what I know of the suicide mechanic in this game, it tends to hurt town far more than it helps it.

Have previously won this game by doing explicitly this.

Past results aren't always indicative of future performance. That being said, I don't feel incredibly strongly one way or the other, to be honest.

Sure. What would you like to talk about?

If you’ve gone into depth or substantiated your SR there more fully could you link me to it/quote it? If not, could you run through it for me? My impression of the new G6 has been pretty consistently town and I don’t want him eliminated

Sure, let me clarify the nature of my read there: I currently think Gentleman 6 is the best choice to be left out not because of material that he

has

posted that I find scum-indicative, but because—compared to the other unpaired Gentleman in the game—I have the

least

amount of reason to townread him. (Some may take a lack of town-indicative material as itself something that is scum-indicative, but that's really more of a philosophical debate).

Lady 6 had a minor reason to townread Gentleman 2, and his proposal to have some Ladies voluntarily refuse pairings to have more flips (which would presumably include himself being left out) I see as a minor reason to townread him. Gentleman 7's brash attitude seems on the surface to be unconcerned with survival, which I consider to be town-indicative.

When it comes to Gentleman 6, I just don't see reason to townread him. He's been around, but so far I feel he hasn't given many thoughts which have struck me very much. There was his point about how he thought his predecessor's replacement was towny, but I don't feel as though anything came from that; if he came to conclusions based off of people's reactions there, I haven't seen them. He's been chatting a bit with people, but I haven't seen anything that strikes me as incredibly in-depth or only likely to come from town.

I agree with you. Gent 7 doesn't look like mafia to me, Gent 2 I'm not sure on.

heh

i honestly don't understand why anyone thinks lady 6 is town. tbh she's the most likely to be scum among the ladies, from what ive read

if i had to choose someone currently unpaired to leave out, it'd probably be gentleman 4. need to think about this a bit

I'm paranoid about her as well, again

I'm liking Gent 3

Lady 1, Lady 3, Lady 5, Lady 7, Lady 8
Gent 3, Gent 9

Lady 2, Lady 6
Gent 1, Gent 7

Lady 4
Gent 2, Gent 4, Gent 6

This is how I'm feeling right now

I agree with the thinking that Gent 7's stunt here makes him look more suspicious, not less

G7, why do you think letting G2 pair with L4 instead of you is better than letting yourself pair with L4?

Real answer? I invest a lot of time and effort into a game, and I don't trust L4 to keep us alive long enough for me to have an impact on the outcome even if she's town.

I kind of liked this answer

Their reads in 1401-1402... it's awkward because I don't know how mafia are going to treat me this game. The few dissenting voices that questioned me seemed like it came from town, though, from Gent 9. Uncertain on Gent 2 because as said, his read feels more shallow.

Particularly, I am not fond of this last post where he agrees that G7 looks more suspicious, but also hedges by saying he likes this answer from G7 and reasserts that G2 is more shallow.

[Gentleman 4]

His iso seems ok upon a glance

literally everyone's iso looks ok upon a glance in this game

how easy is it to fake his sorting / progressions?

hmm good question and good point. Probably easy to fake with how he's playing compared to others. But that also might be because his posts don't particularly stick in my head.
pedit: meh not really sure who scumreads her, but I think l6 was talking about G5/L8

[Lady 3]

An L6 L7 lesbian pairing would have made this game so easy

[Lady 6]

It wasn't "survivalist" because survivalism would mean G4 votes for his counter wagon or goes for a target where there is more interest like G3 or G9.

Counterpoint... Lady the 1st isn't nearly as townread globally as you make out.

Unsure what you mean by this

I'm referring to when G2/L4 weren't flipped yet and G4 was going after G5

I'd say G5 and L8 are pretty widely town read

[Lady 6]

I don't like the people who seemed complacent with 4-2 hangs after pre dance.

is this largely why you don't like L1?

[Gentleman 6]

It wasn't "survivalist" because survivalism would mean G4 votes for his counter wagon or goes for a target where there is more interest like G3 or G9.

Counterpoint... Lady the 1st isn't nearly as townread globally as you make out.

Unsure what you mean by this

I'm referring to when G2/L4 weren't flipped yet and G4 was going after G5

I'd say G5 and L8 are pretty widely town read

ok then
VOTE: L1

[Gentleman 6]

I was arguing that "more interest' could apply to lady the 1st as well.

[Gentleman 6]

Moot point, though. Moving along.

[Gentleman 4]

I don't like the people who seemed complacent with 4-2 hangs after pre dance.

is this largely why you don't like L1?

sort of, and the open wolfing posts don't help at all.
G5 has also sorta open wolfed with his meme posts wanting to get G2/L4 hanged.

[Lady 6]

Yeah, I mean that's a bit more survivalist than what he was doing. Not really relevant though because I was talking about the "read progression" G5 was taking issue with a few pages ago.

[Gentleman 6]

I don't like the people who seemed complacent with 4-2 hangs after pre dance.

is this largely why you don't like L1?

sort of, and the open wolfing posts don't help at all.
G5 has also sorta open wolfed with his meme posts wanting to get G2/L4 hanged.

I mean by that definition, am I not the same?

[Gentleman 4]

I mean by that definition, am I not the same?

not really, you seem to be genuinely trying to solve for people's alignments.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm probably going to try to make a post about L2 being town.

This content, I will subscribe and like for. Just don't expect me to share it on my social media.

[Gentleman 5]

I would assume you'd want a better reason than trusting other people's reads on him

Not really? Lady 1 and Lady 7 were both townreading him and I was willing to sheep that much

[Gentleman 5]

my reads are in a bottle being turned upside down and shaken really hard

I'm treating gent 1 as town if Ladies 1 and 7 both think he is town

like you said this but you also haven't really been making an attempt to sort him

I dunno, feels like a weird way to treat a slot and I don't see this same attitude directed towards the rest of the game

He seems pretty null to me

[Lady 8]

Gent 4's sort of reversal on Gent 5 makes me wonder if he is in fact trying to solve the game. I would have thought the obvious move for scum!Gent 4 is to attack Gent 5, saying Gent 5 is getting better in his reads recently is very interesting to me considering I think Gent 4 was the one to implicate Gent 5 first

I don't like the people who seemed complacent with 4-2 hangs after pre dance.

is this largely why you don't like L1?

sort of, and the open wolfing posts don't help at all.
G5 has also sorta open wolfed with his meme posts wanting to get G2/L4 hanged.

The L1 open-wolfing posts are.. definitely something.

Earlier when you said that Gent 5 seemed like he was cocky scum making meme posts about eliminating G2/L4-- what about them makes you want to attach scum to them? I didn't get what made it more likely for scum to get cocky and post memes on a miselim, rather than just town memeing. Especially considering we were having so much difficulty getting an elimination off.

[Gentleman 9]

Gent 4's sort of reversal on Gent 5

has this happened or is my reading comprehension bad